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12/23/2009  5:04 PM
jimimou wrote:
djsunyc wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:We are holdind teams under a 100 cause we have slowed the offense to a half court and have played some decent defense.

playing terrendous, disgusting, embarrasing, and insulting offensive teams like the bulls, cats, and nets probably helped that number...

what does terrendous mean?

that's how a douche says "tremendous"

After 7 years & 40K+ posts, banned by martin for calling Nalod a 'moron'. Awesome.
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12/23/2009  5:42 PM
The Knicks have improved on D. Now it's all relative, cuz we were so bad that what we do now is a revelation. It's not 48 mins of intense D, but that's not what MDA is trying to do. He wants to keep teams from getting good offense. We switch and keep guys from getting easy entry into the lane, that leads to bad passes and steals which have increased this year for this team. All that switching looks excessive, but it has a purpose and the end result is that we are #9 in the league in steals per game!!! We used to be dead last in the league in Blocks per game and now we're 22 with 4.3 per game. That's great for a team with no real shot blocking center. The thing is that on every count this team is playing better D. No matter what the pace is now, it's good D.
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12/23/2009  5:59 PM
nixluva wrote:The Knicks have improved on D. Now it's all relative, cuz we were so bad that what we do now is a revelation. It's not 48 mins of intense D, but that's not what MDA is trying to do. He wants to keep teams from getting good offense. We switch and keep guys from getting easy entry into the lane, that leads to bad passes and steals which have increased this year for this team. All that switching looks excessive, but it has a purpose and the end result is that we are #9 in the league in steals per game!!! We used to be dead last in the league in Blocks per game and now we're 22 with 4.3 per game. That's great for a team with no real shot blocking center. The thing is that on every count this team is playing better D. No matter what the pace is now, it's good D.

I agree nix, but the pace has slowed down alot, and even though we still jack up more 3's then 29 other teams, atleast now were setting up the 3 ball shot instead of coming down and jacking up the first available shot.

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12/23/2009  6:46 PM
Yea, I agree with everything, but listen, look at how funny MDA is:

"For him to even comment, I mean, come on," D'Antoni said Tuesday night. "How does he know the inner workings of the Knicks? Jerry's a good guy and a good player and he's doing his job, which is nonsense radio. That's the way it is, it's entertainment. But he doesn't know."

-responding to something stupid a stupid jerk said

WE AIN'T NOWHERE WITH THIS BUM CHOKER IN CARMELO. GIVE ME STARKS'S 2-21 ANY DAY OVER THIS LACKLUSTER CLUSTEREFF.
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12/23/2009  7:39 PM
AnubisADL wrote:
Paladin55 wrote:
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Paladin55 wrote:Honestly, if you think that out D has not improved and been a contributing factor to the team's change of fortune, you:

1) Have not watched all the games they have played this year

and/or

2) Have no idea what you are watching when you do watch the games

and/or

3) Have no idea how the team has changed the way it plays D since the beginning of the season

No, we are not going to stop every team we play against, but if you watch this team you know that their effort and success on D is no illusion.

Our defense is so good we have been losing leads to mediocre teams in the fourth by giving up layups. This improved D is just an illusion. Guys are playing harder because their offense is rocking. Notice how active Chandler is now? His offense feeds his energy on the defensive end.


You are just being provocative and you don't seem to have any sense of persepective about the evolution of this team on defense or how the game is played in the NBA. You have obviously not watched the team very carefully this year,

Evolution? I watch more than the Knicks. Our defense isn't good plain and simple and the Eastern conference is abysmal. Pretty sad when the 12th worse team in the west would be the 8th seed in the East. I'm not trying to be provocative, I'm watching the same games as you. Hahn's even noted today on the Brandon Tierney show that these weren't "quality" wins.


Where was I talking about "quality wins?!" The Knicks' D is better than it was at the beginning of the year. I am not saying that we are a great team, I'm not saying that our D is on par with what we saw during the Riley or JVG years, but I am saying that we've seen changes in how the team plays, and among those changes is a defense which can change the course of a game and does not get pushed around as much as it once did. If you can't see this that is your issue, not mine.

As far as being in the Eastern Conference- you play where you lay, and we are in the EC. If the EC sucks you take advantage of your situation and become the best of a mediocre bunch. Can't change our conference- we can change where we end up in the heap.

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12/23/2009  10:53 PM
The Wojarnowski Article struck me as a bit petty and malicious towards MDA. I don't understand why he sent so much venom aimed at MDA. What did he do to the writer or the Bulls for that matter? MDA didn't owe the Bulls anything. He was well within his rights to go get paid the most he could get, just like any player would. He likely feels just like many players that he can make a huge difference all by himself and he knew that eventually we'd be in the market for Lebron.

The crazy thing is the timing. He decides to unleash this hateful article now when MDA clearly has shown the most of his skills as a coach and the team isn't playing like losers or a lottery team. This guy comes off seeming bitter and petty.

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12/23/2009  11:08 PM
D’Antoni can call the bluff of his boss today, but he’d better be careful tomorrow. The Knicks are a mess, and league friends of D’Antoni believe he has deep regret for passing on Chicago for New York. He let his ego and agent push him out of Phoenix, and let his desire for money over winning pass on Chicago. Make no mistake, though: That was two months ago and this is now. New York has a Garden winning streak of six games, and New York isn’t on his case for the holidays.

I think there is some truth to the second and third sentences of this paragraph. I do agree that the timing is strange because the team is finally experiencing a stretch of consistent success.

I'm tired,I'm tired, I'm so tired right now......Kristaps Porzingis 1/3/18
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12/23/2009  11:25 PM
Kerr wanted to change the team and only after it was a complete letdown and Nash and the players revolted, did they go back to MDA's style of play. I don't think they really wanted him anymore. I think they thought the key to winning was to change the style to a more traditional NBA game. That was more than evident in the Shaq deal and trades they made. They slowed things down and now they've gone back to the MDA days.

Chicago ownership is no bed of roses and they always try to play guys cheap. If they wanted MDA they should've made a strong offer and acted like they needed and wanted him. DW came on strong and got it done. That's no slight on MDA's character to go where he was most appreciated. Everyone goes where the best deal is. Thing is that MDA is showing just how good he really is and now the Chicago people are bitter than he didn't go there.
All this money over winning stuff is pure crap!!! If you're Jordan or Kobe or Lebron you feel you can win anywhere and that same kind of ego goes for the top coaches.

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12/24/2009  12:04 AM
I am not an insider but what was being reported was that Phoenix and Chicago both wanted D'Antoni to place more emphasis on defense. The report was that Walsh made no demands on D'Antoni and offered him more money. I also read that D'Antoni endorsed the trade for Shaq. I am not sure about the Shaq trade but everything else was reported in all of the papers and b-ball websites that I go to.
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12/24/2009  10:44 AM
Chicago blog on the subject:

http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-confidential/2009/12/how-would-life-be-different-with-dantoni.html

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12/24/2009  11:36 AM
Andrew wrote:Chicago blog on the subject:

http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-confidential/2009/12/how-would-life-be-different-with-dantoni.html

That was a good rebuttal to the other article. I remember having to keep hearing how the Bulls had such a better org. Than the knicks and were on the way to a contender before us. Dolan's only problem has been trusting the wrong people. Now I think we have the right people in place. If MDA can push this team into the playoffs it's gonna make our off season one to remember.

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