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Posts: 27166 Alba Posts: 28 Joined: 10/15/2008 Member: #2274 |
12/22/2009 3:24 PM
1. Nate Robinson: Buyout Or Trade?
By Chris Sheridan ESPN.com NEW YORK -- Nate Robinson, Mike D'Antoni and Donnie Walsh all went into damage control mode Sunday, giving everyone an earful about how there's nothing personal between the player and the coach, how Robinson really, truly wants to be a Knick, and how cooler heads might prevail after Walsh speaks Monday with Robinson's agent, Aaron Goodwin. We'll spare you too much of the details and quotes, because all of it probably can be summed up in one word: Bunk. Robinson does want out, and a source close to the Robinson camp tells ESPN.com there's one place the former slam-dunk champion would truly like to land if a trade can be worked out: Boston. If that can't happen, Robinson wants a buyout, believing he will be able to sign with one of the top contending teams in the league, including the Lakers, Cleveland and Orlando -- the thinking being that he can provide the instant offensive boost for any of those teams that he once provided for the Knicks. Sunday night's 98-94 victory against Charlotte marked the ninth consecutive DNP-CD for Robinson, whose tension-filled relationship with D'Antoni has reached a tipping point. The Knicks have gone 6-3 since D'Antoni removed Robinson from the rotation -- a point D'Antoni repeatedly used in his own defense in addressing the matter prior to the game -- and Robinson's camp has made the decision to go public with its displeasure, formally requesting a trade while letting the media know it was doing so. But a couple of problems exist in regard to Robinson's demanding a trade: • Robinson has the right to veto any trade (because he would be forfeiting his Larry Bird rights by accepting a trade), and as unhappy as he is, at the end of the day he'd rather sulk at the end of the bench in New York than battle Wayne Ellington for spot minutes in Minnesota. One source close to the Knicks said the list of teams that Robinson would accept a trade to could be described as "slim and/or none." • Robinson also is what's known as a base-year compensation player, a designation given to any player whose salary rises more than 20 percent from the previous season (Robinson went from making $2.02 million to $4 million). If the Knicks found a trade for Robinson that was to his liking, they could only take back a player making $2.02 million or less -- and Walsh has been adamant that he will not take on any contracts that eat up the cap space he has squirreled away for next summer. A Robinson-Marquis Daniels swap -- possibly brokered through a third team -- would make more sense for New York payroll-wise, but it is questionable whether that would interest the Celtics -- even with Daniels sidelined until the All-Star break by thumb surgery.) • Robinson cannot be traded until Dec. 24 -- 90 days after he signed his contract, when the Knicks gave him a deal more than $1 million above what he would have had to accept under New York's qualifying offer, in large part to assure he would not have a base-year designation next summer. • By waiving his trade veto, accepting a trade and thereby forfeiting his Bird rights, Robinson would preclude himself from being a part of any sign-and-trade deal the Knicks might make next summer to reel in a top-tier free agent. And if he returns to the rotation in March and April, that'll be the time for Robinson to establish greater financial value. But a number of team executives and player agents believe next summer's free agent market is going to be especially difficult to navigate, especially if the top three players on the market -- LeBron James, Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh -- are less than hasty in making their decisions. "After those three and a couple others, it's going to shut down -- and it's going to shut down quick," one agent told ESPN.com. "A lot of guys are going to be left waiting at the doors." And that is why the preferable endgame for Robinson is a buyout, despite what he maintained Sunday in saying he preferred to remain with the Knicks -- provided he gets a chance to play. The Knicks still have an interest in pumping up Robinson's value for the sign-and-trade market, which is why Robinson could land back in the rotation by the time the trading deadline passes and New York either has or hasn't moved Jared Jeffries, the player with the cap-clogging contract deemed most movable by management. Jeffries logged another 31 (scoreless) minutes Sunday night after playing 31 the previous game, 40 against Chicago on Thursday, and 40 Tuesday at Charlotte when he defended everyone from Tyson Chandler to Raymond Felton and produced one of his better statistical lines of the season: 11 points, six steals, five rebounds, three assists, two blocks and a 3-pointer. But Robinson's patience would certainly be tested by another two months of riding the pine, and the Knicks' aversion to having controversial players around (part of the reason they shied away from Allen Iverson, and the sole reason why they banished Stephon Marbury a year ago) could possibly make them agreeable to a buyout. But things will have to get a lot uglier than they've already gotten (Robinson took it personally when D'Antoni joked that he'd play Satan himself if it helped get a win) for Robinson to force the Knicks' hand regarding a buyout. And it seems the wisdom of being seen by other teams as even more of a problem child would dissuade Robinson from heading too hard down that road. That being said, something has to give at some point in this standoff, and Monday's discussion between Walsh and Goodwin should at least set the table for identifying what possible exit ramps might be available in the weeks ahead. Then again, Walsh will make the argument -- as D'Antoni did -- that players have been in and out of the rotation all season, and Robinson could be as key a component as Larry Hughes, who was in D'Antoni's doghouse when the season began. But when Robinson didn't play in Chicago on Thursday, with D'Antoni shortening his rotation to six players despite the fact Hughes was sidelined by a strained groin, the dam burst. Goodwin came out and said Robinson wanted a trade, Walsh said Monday would be a good day to discuss it, and everyone tried to say the right thing Sunday as the crisis crept along. But remember this: Walsh has historically been averse to doing buyouts (Marbury's was the first he had ever done as an NBA executive), and it's hard to see anyone in the Knicks' organization seeing any way in which a buyout of Robinson brings a long-term benefit. So expect this situation to remain at loggerheads for the time being -- unless one of the key players changes the equation in a major way through their actions or words. If that's the case, a buyout may be the best thing for everyone involved. And make no mistake: Barring a trade to a contender, a buyout (and it doesn't have to happen tomorrow, next week or next month if that means it's more likely come in late February, when Robinson will still be free to sign with a contender and still be playoff-eligible) is the endgame Robinson likely sees as his most palatable option. Chris Sheridan covers the NBA for ESPN Insider. http://espn.go.com/nba/dailydime/_/page/dime-091220/daily-dime |
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AnubisADL
Posts: 27382 Alba Posts: 13 Joined: 6/29/2009 Member: #2771 USA |
12/22/2009 3:54 PM LAST EDITED: 12/22/2009 3:54 PM
The other roadblock is cap mathematics, as Robinson is a "base-year compensation" player, meaning despite his $4 million contract, the Knicks can only accept back a player whose contract is $2.6 million. If both teams are over the cap, a deal is not possible because the salaries must match. A third team would have to be involved. Walsh has just killed what little trade value Robinson had. Why even bother trying to trade for him when he can get bought out and signed for the minimum? NY Knicks - Retirement home for players and GMs
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Rookie
Posts: 27166 Alba Posts: 28 Joined: 10/15/2008 Member: #2274 |
12/22/2009 3:58 PM
AnubisADL wrote:The other roadblock is cap mathematics, as Robinson is a "base-year compensation" player, meaning despite his $4 million contract, the Knicks can only accept back a player whose contract is $2.6 million. If both teams are over the cap, a deal is not possible because the salaries must match. A third team would have to be involved. it could be that N8's value is exactly the same as it was this summer - nada. I t was reported he had no offers then and it's looking like he has none again. I'm no math major (maybe the blobman can verify my math) but zero minus zero is still zero. |
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AnubisADL
Posts: 27382 Alba Posts: 13 Joined: 6/29/2009 Member: #2771 USA |
12/22/2009 4:03 PM
Rookie wrote:AnubisADL wrote:The other roadblock is cap mathematics, as Robinson is a "base-year compensation" player, meaning despite his $4 million contract, the Knicks can only accept back a player whose contract is $2.6 million. If both teams are over the cap, a deal is not possible because the salaries must match. A third team would have to be involved. People said the same thing about Ben Gordon. Teams have to overpay to acquire RFA's. You see how Portland tried to make Milsap's offer sheet as toxic as possible. Just because teams aren't willing to over pay doesn't mean he doesn't have value. On the other end of the spectrum you have Jarret Jack who got a nice pay day as a UFA but nothing as a RFA. NY Knicks - Retirement home for players and GMs
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Rookie
Posts: 27166 Alba Posts: 28 Joined: 10/15/2008 Member: #2274 |
12/22/2009 4:07 PM
AnubisADL wrote:Rookie wrote:AnubisADL wrote:The other roadblock is cap mathematics, as Robinson is a "base-year compensation" player, meaning despite his $4 million contract, the Knicks can only accept back a player whose contract is $2.6 million. If both teams are over the cap, a deal is not possible because the salaries must match. A third team would have to be involved. Please get back in your time machine and return to the present. While you make a good point that might apply in the future, it doesn't apply to our current situation. |