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would you do this trade with Golden State?
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NYKBocker
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12/16/2009  4:28 PM
fishmike wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:
fishmike wrote:ok I'll bite. Here is what your offering GS for their last two (and highly regarded) prospects in the draft

Curry: another $12mm next year for a guy who cant stay on the court. Missed 20+ games two years ago and has played 70 minutes in the last 2 seasons combined. Yes.. thats minutes
Nate: benched, doesnt have Bird rights so you cant resign him to anything but the MLE
Douglas: isnt in the rotation
Hill: cant get into the rotation

Dude, thats terrible. Try to be realistic

So you are saying that the only way we can get anything from GS is if we take a bad contract? If that is the case then no deal.

I'm just trying to be realistic. Either you give fair talent (which your proposals dont come close to doing) or you take back more talent + a bad contract. Thats how trades in the NBA work.

Agree to disagree I guess.

S Curry - Is he in the rotation?
A Randolph - He is in the trading block. I think the best they can do for him is a young lottery player with a lot of upside. They are not getting Amare for him.
Bell, Radmanovic - They are not going to cry over these guys.
George and Mikki - Contract filler.

They get 2 young prospects in TD and Hill. They get a bonafied ticket seller in Lil Nate. They get a center with an offensive arsenal that only has 1 more year in his contact after this year for 2 role players.

I don't see why you would think this trade is one sided. These GS players are available for a reason. They don't want them.

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MS
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12/16/2009  4:32 PM
Hill and Douglas for Randolph isn't a bad deal for the warriors. They add some depth to their team and get a lottery talent.

Curry is going to be a good player he is young and learning the game passes well and can shoot. Even the warriors aren't that stupid

fishmike
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12/16/2009  4:35 PM
NYKBocker wrote:
fishmike wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:
fishmike wrote:ok I'll bite. Here is what your offering GS for their last two (and highly regarded) prospects in the draft

Curry: another $12mm next year for a guy who cant stay on the court. Missed 20+ games two years ago and has played 70 minutes in the last 2 seasons combined. Yes.. thats minutes
Nate: benched, doesnt have Bird rights so you cant resign him to anything but the MLE
Douglas: isnt in the rotation
Hill: cant get into the rotation

Dude, thats terrible. Try to be realistic

So you are saying that the only way we can get anything from GS is if we take a bad contract? If that is the case then no deal.

I'm just trying to be realistic. Either you give fair talent (which your proposals dont come close to doing) or you take back more talent + a bad contract. Thats how trades in the NBA work.

Agree to disagree I guess.

S Curry - Is he in the rotation?
A Randolph - He is in the trading block. I think the best they can do for him is a young lottery player with a lot of upside. They are not getting Amare for him.
Bell, Radmanovic - They are not going to cry over these guys.
George and Mikki - Contract filler.

They get 2 young prospects in TD and Hill. They get a bonafied ticket seller in Lil Nate. They get a center with an offensive arsenal that only has 1 more year in his contact after this year for 2 role players.

I don't see why you would think this trade is one sided. These GS players are available for a reason. They don't want them.

Stephen Curry is a starter playing 35 minutes a night.
Raja Bell is one of the best wing defenders in the league and will be a hot commodity come trade deadline (if healthy)
Vlad Rad is a nice role player (has played every game 25 minutes/game)
"winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
fishmike
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12/16/2009  4:36 PM
MS wrote:Hill and Douglas for Randolph isn't a bad deal for the warriors. They add some depth to their team and get a lottery talent.

Curry is going to be a good player he is young and learning the game passes well and can shoot. Even the warriors aren't that stupid

$$$ doesnt work. Hill makes too much more than AR. AR for Chanldler works
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NYKBocker
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12/16/2009  4:45 PM
fishmike wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:
fishmike wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:
fishmike wrote:ok I'll bite. Here is what your offering GS for their last two (and highly regarded) prospects in the draft

Curry: another $12mm next year for a guy who cant stay on the court. Missed 20+ games two years ago and has played 70 minutes in the last 2 seasons combined. Yes.. thats minutes
Nate: benched, doesnt have Bird rights so you cant resign him to anything but the MLE
Douglas: isnt in the rotation
Hill: cant get into the rotation

Dude, thats terrible. Try to be realistic

So you are saying that the only way we can get anything from GS is if we take a bad contract? If that is the case then no deal.

I'm just trying to be realistic. Either you give fair talent (which your proposals dont come close to doing) or you take back more talent + a bad contract. Thats how trades in the NBA work.

Agree to disagree I guess.

S Curry - Is he in the rotation?
A Randolph - He is in the trading block. I think the best they can do for him is a young lottery player with a lot of upside. They are not getting Amare for him.
Bell, Radmanovic - They are not going to cry over these guys.
George and Mikki - Contract filler.

They get 2 young prospects in TD and Hill. They get a bonafied ticket seller in Lil Nate. They get a center with an offensive arsenal that only has 1 more year in his contact after this year for 2 role players.

I don't see why you would think this trade is one sided. These GS players are available for a reason. They don't want them.

Stephen Curry is a starter playing 35 minutes a night.
Raja Bell is one of the best wing defenders in the league and will be a hot commodity come trade deadline (if healthy)
Vlad Rad is a nice role player (has played every game 25 minutes/game)

I will concede on S Curry. We might need to somehow include Chandler for Curry but matching contracts would be extremely difficult.

Bell is not healthy and getting up there in age. I think you are putting too much stock on this guy.

Vlad Rad is a nice role player indeed. Him and Bell is worth Eddy Curry.

fishmike
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12/16/2009  5:16 PM
Vlad Rad is a nice role player indeed. Him and Bell is worth Eddy Curry.
so GS will want to pay a guy thats played 70 minutes in the last two years $12mm next year instead of let Raja's contract come off the books.
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would you do this trade with Golden State?

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