When this kid is healthy imagine having a unit that includes Lebron-Chandler-Gall-Randolph and a point guard that can stroke it. I think Hill/Douglas are very expendable and I mean very. That's not bad value for them who get a lottery talent in return and someone that fits nicely with Biedrins.

It would even open up things to move Lee in a deal for Bayless or someone similiar to get guard help. Defense wins and this kid is going to be a big time shot blocker and finisher. The Knicks need to be all over this deal.

MS wrote:This kid is a star and has all-star potential in a big way. He does just about everything well and is under contract and is 20 years old. Don Nelson is an ******* and one of the more overatted coaches in league history. He mixes the lineups around benches guys for no reason and picks fights.

When this kid is healthy imagine having a unit that includes Lebron-Chandler-Gall-Randolph and a point guard that can stroke it. I think Hill/Douglas are very expendable and I mean very. That's not bad value for them who get a lottery talent in return and someone that fits nicely with Biedrins.

It would even open up things to move Lee in a deal for Bayless or someone similiar to get guard help. Defense wins and this kid is going to be a big time shot blocker and finisher. The Knicks need to be all over this deal.

huh? if he is a star, how is his potential that of just an allstar? anyway, are we talking about the same anthony randolph here?

They both would provide a lot of length and quality ball handling at the forward positions though.

Randolph and Gallinari or Ebony and Ivory would be a coaches and a PG's dream.

For those same reasons I won't judge Hill's talent level. Its clear that even if Douglas and Hill were both very good players that MDA won't play them over vets unless somebody gets hurt and he is forced to.

Me personally I think Douglas and Hill would be producing very well right now if given time. Again just because Hill isn't playing doesn't mean he isn't good. There is clearly a politics over talent thing going on over here in NY.

orangeblobman wrote:Hill and Douglas can both produce RIGHT NOW. It's just that we gotta showcase the veterans to boost trade value. There's nothing more to it. This is what did Darko in. Nothing more to it. Expect lots of growth from both those guys in the second part (post-deadline) part of the season. That's it.

lets hope that is the case..

I would do Chandler straight up
I would do AR + Maggette (I hate him) for JJ + Hill

AR also plays very hard on defense.

orangeblobman wrote:

tkf wrote:

orangeblobman wrote:Hill and Douglas can both produce RIGHT NOW. It's just that we gotta showcase the veterans to boost trade value. There's nothing more to it. This is what did Darko in. Nothing more to it. Expect lots of growth from both those guys in the second part (post-deadline) part of the season. That's it.

lets hope that is the case..

Even if it's not, Mr. tkf, it IS the case that the reason they're not getting a chance to play is because we're showcasing the veterans for trade. You know?

yea, I know.. and I also know that showcasing curry for 7 minutes isn't going to fool any sane GM..

Paladin55 wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Randolph has been hurt this year and obviously Don Nelson has been going player to player creating beefs. I think the pattern is easy to see. The film to look at is from last year. He cant take the rebound down and move it up the floor but he doesnt need to have it in his hand to score--rather he is very active on both sides of the ball and can disruptively defend and score in a variety of ways. His intensity level is down this year--I watch a lot of GS--much more than MDA or DW combined. I think in this system he would flourish. Think of Jefferies on DX3 with much more offensive ability and only 20 years old. He's gopt a nice stroke can handle like a guard--a team just needs to let him go --he is a mobile 4 who can literally play 1-5.

Teams don't "let a player go" unless you are Lebron, Kobe, Wade, etc.. No coach is going to give Randolph carte blanche at this point, or any point in time, for that matter.

He needs a role to play. What if we somehow land James? How will Randolph fit in?

Is he willing to be a Jeffries? I don't know...

Talent is not the problem with Randolph. Court wisdom is, and whether he is willing to use his skills for the benefit of the team, even if it means he can't do everything he wants to do.

Anthony Randolph would be a sick piece with Lebron James. I don't think anyone has viewed Randolph more than me--I think if you really want to understand this guy--you have to watch hours of tape on him from last year. He is Jefferies on steroids with much more offensive skill. The scary part of him being available is the wrong time gets him--aka someone LIKE cleveland. I just think this guy is going to flourish--he seemed on the cusp end of last year into the SL and started the season off hurt and then into doghouse--I think that is just the bottom line. He's a willing passer a great ballhandler for his size_I mean he has all of the skills--he just needs guys to run and play the way he should-up and down the court--if Mike D liked Diaw--this is a better version waiting to happen with more defensive skill. Or we will find this out when he is on someone else team,.

Warriors Willing To Trade Randolph
Dec 16, 2009 11:15 AM EST

Team and league sources confirmed Tuesday that the Warriors have included Anthony Randolph's name in trade discussions.

The Warriors aren't necessarily eager to trade Randolph, but are exploring all options.

Randolph was deemed the starting power forward in the offseason and was invited to participate in Team USA's training camp in Las Vegas after a dominant summer league.

But one Eastern Conference executive said Randolph's stock is down around the league.

A team source said the Warriors don't want to trade guards Monta Ellis, Stephen Curry and Anthony Morrow but aren't in a position to overlook any option.

We can get him on the cheap. Would he be better than Jordan Hill?