markvmc wrote:Jeffries offensive game is very poor, it's true. But his defense is very good. He's a one-way player, in other words, like several other of our players (it's just all the other one-wayers are scorers whose defense is poor). Why is a good defender with no offensive game any more of a scrub than a scorer with no defense?

almost every team has a hustle type player like Fishlips... Bucks have a younger better version in Luc Mbah a Moute who makes all the hustle plays & they pay him a rookie minimum contract... the fact that we're paying Fishlips to do the same things for $6 mil per is disgusting to me, but that's not why he's a scrub... it's his talent & ability that puts him into that category... if Fishlips were even just as good as someone like Chris Anderson, i'd give him a lot more respect, & Anderson isn't a guy who puts up huge stats either.

markvmc wrote:If defense is just hustle, why is it so hard to get players to play good defense?

It's more than hustle--it's seeing your man, anticipating his moves, being in the right place at the right time. Defense is a skill. Like offense is a skill.

he's a dirty work role player dude, let's be real here... he brings some intangibles & some defense to a team but nothing more... he's not some All-NBA level shutdown defensive catalyst that can be the glue to a winning formula... if he were we woulda been winning w/him a long time ago... there's a ton of these types of players at the end of every bench in the NBA... they give you max effort & hustle on defense & bring little of anything else.

Fishlips can't even hold a candle to this guy... he had some offensive skills to go along w/his tenacious D & toughness... plus he had a much cooler nickname than Fishlips.