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CrushAlot
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12/8/2009  9:43 PM
I have seen Lopez alot and I have been very impressed. He isn't overrated he is a center and you can't get a guy with his ability to anchor your team very often. Randolph has struggled this year but at times has looked like a monster. He is playing for a freak in Golden State and I am sure that has stunted his development.
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12/8/2009  9:56 PM
Gallo is the best in his draft class. He will be one of the best in the league soon enough.
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12/8/2009  9:56 PM
If Lebron wants to come to NY -Gallo can become his Pippen. Mess with LBJ and the kick out to Gallo means 3. Plus he is developing other aspects of his game as has been pointed out.
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12/8/2009  10:41 PM
the best drafted player in the last two years has been Tyreke Evans--I think the BPA in the 2008 draft is Brook Lopez but there will be several close runner ups. T Evans though--to me far and away in a class of his own. I think he is already a top 10 NBA basketball player--a triple double threat every night who will shoot +50%.
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12/8/2009  11:12 PM
BRIGGS wrote:the best drafted player in the last two years has been Tyreke Evans--I think the BPA in the 2008 draft is Brook Lopez but there will be several close runner ups. T Evans though--to me far and away in a class of his own. I think he is already a top 10 NBA basketball player--a triple double threat every night who will shoot +50%.

I think all this is in the eye of the beholder. One can be enamored with having an anchor in middle(Lopez) or a dynamic player in T. Evans or a pure basketball player in Gallo.

Gallo just has that it factor. He makes players around him better. He has the balls to take the tough shots. His supposed weakness(defense) is turning out to be a welcome strength.

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12/8/2009  11:13 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/8/2009  11:13 PM
JohnWallace44 wrote:Any GM would trade Gallo for Randolph, Lopez, McGee or Thompson straight up, all of which were drafted later.

Besides Lopez, the other guys on that list haven't done a thing. They're all potential.

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12/8/2009  11:21 PM
kam77 wrote:
JohnWallace44 wrote:Any GM would trade Gallo for Randolph, Lopez, McGee or Thompson straight up, all of which were drafted later.

Besides Lopez, the other guys on that list haven't done a thing. They're all potential.

guess you are another non suscriber to league pass kam.

check the numbers on thompson since you can't watch the kings play

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12/8/2009  11:23 PM
I think I saw the potential in his game last year. He is incredibly smart.

However, his back is an issue, and continues to be. It could very well cut short his career. I mean, seeing him prone on the side lines during games- that is scary. One thing if you're Steve Nash and been in the league and are older. Another to start off your career that way.

Great shooter - but I'm wondering if his inconsistency is related to the back flaring up on him.

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12/8/2009  11:49 PM
McK1 wrote:
kam77 wrote:
JohnWallace44 wrote:Any GM would trade Gallo for Randolph, Lopez, McGee or Thompson straight up, all of which were drafted later.

Besides Lopez, the other guys on that list haven't done a thing. They're all potential.

guess you are another non suscriber to league pass kam.

check the numbers on thompson since you can't watch the kings play

Saw him play against us and he didn't stand out. His #s are decent but so are Gallos. Give Gallo 50 more starts like Thompson has before passing judgement.

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12/9/2009  12:10 AM
CrushAlot wrote:I have seen Lopez alot and I have been very impressed. He isn't overrated he is a center and you can't get a guy with his ability to anchor your team very often. Randolph has struggled this year but at times has looked like a monster. He is playing for a freak in Golden State and I am sure that has stunted his development.


the thing is posters like myself and tms have been begging for patience from this forum when it came to gallo, he was called a bust, we heard other players were contributing, the list goes on and on.. Some of us saw these things in gallo, most are now just comming around, but again, it is easy to be negative towards your own team.. If you are wrong, you still win, and get to root for that player anyway...

As far as lopez, he is a good player, better than I thought, but I don't see a great player in lopez, he does some good things, but nothing great.. and Randolph? don't blame golden state, a lot of us had questions as to his mental make up anyway.. the guy looks a mess at times, and I never saw him play like a monster this year, he is mentally fragile it seems, and his confidence is shook... and I won't put all of that on nelson either..

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12/9/2009  12:21 AM
NYKBocker wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:the best drafted player in the last two years has been Tyreke Evans--I think the BPA in the 2008 draft is Brook Lopez but there will be several close runner ups. T Evans though--to me far and away in a class of his own. I think he is already a top 10 NBA basketball player--a triple double threat every night who will shoot +50%.

I think all this is in the eye of the beholder. One can be enamored with having an anchor in middle(Lopez) or a dynamic player in T. Evans or a pure basketball player in Gallo.

Gallo just has that it factor. He makes players around him better. He has the balls to take the tough shots. His supposed weakness(defense) is turning out to be a welcome strength.


Tyreke Evans is already an NBA superstar--he's already great. In the 14 games that KM went down TE is averaging 23.4 5.6 5.6 53.4%--he didnt have one crazy 55 point game--he's doing the same thing every night and no way to stop him. He's on pace to have a better year than Lebron James had in his rookie year.

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12/9/2009  12:41 AM
kam77 wrote:
McK1 wrote:
kam77 wrote:
JohnWallace44 wrote:Any GM would trade Gallo for Randolph, Lopez, McGee or Thompson straight up, all of which were drafted later.

Besides Lopez, the other guys on that list haven't done a thing. They're all potential.

guess you are another non suscriber to league pass kam.

check the numbers on thompson since you can't watch the kings play

Saw him play against us and he didn't stand out. His #s are decent but so are Gallos. Give Gallo 50 more starts like Thompson has before passing judgement.

1 game...c'mon son!!!

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12/9/2009  1:08 AM
JohnWallace44 wrote:Any GM would trade Gallo for Randolph, Lopez, McGee or Thompson straight up, all of which were drafted later.

Lopez & Thompson are every bit as good of a prospect as Gallo is & i agree u can argue them to be better at this stage in their development... Randolph is nowhere near the scorer that Gallo is... he does other things better than Gallo but u can't assume any GM would trade Gallo for that guy... & dude, Javale McGee??? come on now.

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12/9/2009  1:50 AM
Just remember that when you're judging Gallo he's the only one coming off an offseason BACK surgery!!! These other guys had a full off season to work on their games and they didn't come in weak cuz they couldn't workout until Sept.!!! Gallo is looking this good without any of those advantages and a major disadvantage of being weaker than he should be due to the surgery. If you're not factoring those things in you're not being fair to Gallo. I liked him from the start and I think he has a chance to be a bigtime player.

He's got great size, skills n BB IQ and most important toughness! When he gains strength he's gonna be a beast.

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12/9/2009  2:21 AM
McK1 wrote:
kam77 wrote:
McK1 wrote:
kam77 wrote:
JohnWallace44 wrote:Any GM would trade Gallo for Randolph, Lopez, McGee or Thompson straight up, all of which were drafted later.

Besides Lopez, the other guys on that list haven't done a thing. They're all potential.

guess you are another non suscriber to league pass kam.

check the numbers on thompson since you can't watch the kings play

Saw him play against us and he didn't stand out. His #s are decent but so are Gallos. Give Gallo 50 more starts like Thompson has before passing judgement.

1 game...c'mon son!!!

What about giving Gallinari 2 more years, which is how much older Thompson is than Gallo. I like Thompson- he is going to end up being a consistent and dependable PF-but by the time Gallinari is 25 he just might be a special ballplayer, and one of the better picks the Knicks have ever drafted, and one of the most complete players in the league.

Physically, he was the least mature player coming from the top picks in his draft, and he had an injury last year which influenced his physical development for this year. We are very far from the time in which Gallo will show us everything he can do, but I don't think that some folks actually understand this.

Bippity10 had the most rational post on this thread, so I have to second what he said, especially:

I don't know if Gallo is the best in his draft class but I will say 2 things:
1.) You can't still be complaining about the draft pick after what he has shown us so far
2.) He has as much potential as anyone in that class. You cannot say that anyone in that draft taken before or after him is guaranteed to have a better career. He is right there with all of them.

The fact that this thread can be initiated without being immediately locked or the OP being called a crazy fool (or worse), says volumes about how far Gallinari has come over the past year,and he is only scratching the surface of what he can do.

All the picks in his draft should be allowed suitable time for development, but it can be safely said that Gallo's stock is on the rise, and none of us knows the heights it may reach. He was a very legit pick at 6, and there is no way that the Knicks' brass should be criticized about taking him as high as they did.

I am somewhat prejudiced in regard to Gallinari, since I would have even taken him at #5, and recall jumping up in pleasant surprise when we took him, but from everything I had read or seen about him, he seemed like a fine all around player who was especially gifted on the offensive end. I have been completely surprised at the defensive aspect of his game, especially his overall awareness and shot blocking/stealing ability. For someone who has never been known for his vertical game, he does an amazing job of blocking shots, and on defense his hands have simply been amazing, IMO- I bet he has as many or more tips on D as anyone on the Knicks this season.

We should just sit back (and pray for his back) and enjoy his evolution as a player and team leader(hopefully) over the rest of the season.

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12/9/2009  2:24 AM
Paladin55 wrote:What about giving Gallinari 2 more years, which is how much older Thompson is than Gallo. I like Thompson- he is going to end up being a consistent and dependable PF-but by the time Gallinari is 25 he just might be a special ballplayer, and one of the better picks the Knicks have ever drafted, and one of the most complete players in the league.

totally agree w/u on this... Gallo's just scratching the surface of what he could possibly be as a basketball player at this point... who knows how good he'll end up? it's all up to him, & he's gonna have to stay healthy which is key... but to me this kid just simply gets it & u gotta be excited about that as a Knicks fan.

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12/9/2009  3:33 AM    LAST EDITED: 12/9/2009  3:56 AM
Brook Lopez in his last 10 games - 20/9/2/52%/85% with games of 25/10 against Noah, 31/14 against Tyson Chandler, 26/12 against Gasol and Bynum and 32/14 against Oden and Pryzbilla.
Brook Lopez overall - 19/9/2/49%/82%

And all that at age 21, 4 months older than Gallo, in a league notorious to be tough on legitimate centers. But he is overrated. He sucks. He moves slower than a turtle. He has no wingspan. Hilariousness * 20. He is never going to improve, yeah? He is never going to add more muscle, never going to develop better post moves, never going to improve his rebounding, never going to develop a better jumpshot? But Gallinari will improve his game to the point where he and Lebron will be the next Jordan and Pippen. Gallo will improve his game but Lopez will be the same his entire career even though they are 4 months apart and have the same level of potential. Why? Because I said so! God, the kool aid is running wild.

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12/9/2009  4:23 AM
Gallo is a superstar in the making if his back holds up. To deny this is to be a god damn fool.
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12/9/2009  7:19 AM
I will say again, Lopez is good, Thompson is good, Randolph has potential. Most of the guys drafted before Gallo have loads of potential as well. I'm probably missing someone too. They could all end up better then Gallo. The point is that barring injury this guy is proving to be right in there with all those guys and has the potential to be as good as any of them. NOw of course we want perfection from our GM and we want him to get the BPA at whatever pick he has or else we want to hang him but....If you are a rational human being you can't be complaining about having GAllo on your team. If you are, you are just looking for reasons to make yourself upset.

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12/9/2009  7:54 AM
You won't find a more complete player in that draft, you won't find a higher ceiling in that draft. The only, and I mean ONLY, thing that anyone can knock Gallo for is his back. And you can't even really 'knock' him for it as it is an injury (an injury he received because the NBA things it's alright to let 500 pound, decrepit, no-talent, no-future having, hamburger eating fools 'play basketball' in Summer League).

The only question mark above the kid is his back. Outside of that, he is the total package.

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Gallo looks like the best in his draft class

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