knicks1248 wrote:No matter how you look at it weather its a bad back, or lousy team mates, he plays like a rookie similar to dirk. Funny thing is dirk doesn't need screens and PnRs to drop 30.

He's just not ready and MDA made a fair assesment of him when these same question were presented to him. He more less said the guy has to want to do more, he went on to say the ball gravitates to energy,and he doesn't play with enough of it, so the ball doesn't find him enough.

It took allan houston 2 to 3 yrs in a NY uni before he shedded that passive play and started demandind the ball.

Again, I haven't seen him play enough prior to the back injury to make a fair call on weather he's always played this robotic.

Dirk didn't have this much success in his rookie year and he wasn't coming off back surgery either. Gallo doesn't have the full explosion he'll likely get back when he has time to work on his core and leg strength. Gallo isn't robotic he's a gangly kid that may never look smooth. They said he looked stiff legged in his videos from Europe so what's new?

MDA isn't looking to push Gallo to do too much. He's gonna allow him to gradually figure it out on his own. I think once they start to go with the kids more, Gallo will be able to open up a bit more. I don't see those guys not looking to him to be more of a scoring leader. Vets like we have aren't as softhearted towards kids and rooks. Maybe it's a pride thing. The ball can't find energy if you have a bunch of guys that never give it up once they get it.

nixluva wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:No matter how you look at it weather its a bad back, or lousy team mates, he plays like a rookie similar to dirk. Funny thing is dirk doesn't need screens and PnRs to drop 30.

He's just not ready and MDA made a fair assesment of him when these same question were presented to him. He more less said the guy has to want to do more, he went on to say the ball gravitates to energy,and he doesn't play with enough of it, so the ball doesn't find him enough.

It took allan houston 2 to 3 yrs in a NY uni before he shedded that passive play and started demandind the ball.

Again, I haven't seen him play enough prior to the back injury to make a fair call on weather he's always played this robotic.

Dirk didn't have this much success in his rookie year and he wasn't coming off back surgery either. Gallo doesn't have the full explosion he'll likely get back when he has time to work on his core and leg strength. Gallo isn't robotic he's a gangly kid that may never look smooth. They said he looked stiff legged in his videos from Europe so what's new?

MDA isn't looking to push Gallo to do too much. He's gonna allow him to gradually figure it out on his own. I think once they start to go with the kids more, Gallo will be able to open up a bit more. I don't see those guys not looking to him to be more of a scoring leader. Vets like we have aren't as softhearted towards kids and rooks. Maybe it's a pride thing. The ball can't find energy if you have a bunch of guys that never give it up once they get it.

You want proof? All you have to do is see how Gallo's replacement plays the same weak side position to see what Gallo could be doing to get more touches and scoring different ways. Whomever replaces Gallo will not be able to shoot as good as him which is a given. So his replacement will find shots other ways. Those are the type of shots that Gallo should add to his arsenal if he wants to be on the level that many of you claim he should be.

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Martice wrote:I think Gallo can do more to free himself up than waiting for set plays. In addition, none of his teammates seem to have a problem taking the initiative to get themselves free. Gallo running off screens is a wonderful visual but he really doesn't look mobile at all. He seems to labor at times when running. Also, he has no lift when he shoots and he appears to need to set his feet before he shoots which suggests that he needs to be positioned some place like above the arc to get a good shot off.

All of these excuses for Gallo not getting more shots is hilarious!!! Although some of the reasons given may hold some truth at some point you have to look at the player and how tentative he looks when he is doing anything on offense besides taking a set shot.

Basketball I.Q., unselfishness and a deadly set shot means very little if the player lacks confidence and fails to assert himself.

Most want to believe that he isn't still injured. When you watch him run up and down the court he runs like a guy that has a bad back or stiff legs. At 21 yrs of age he's already doing what 25 yr old steve nash does, lay on his back on the sidelines when not in the game. Since we all know that he just got over back surgery it's quite safe to say the reason gallo mainly stays stationery in corners or on the perimitter is because THE INJURY IS PERMANANT !

35 year old nash*, but I agree. I say same thing many weeks ago, mr. paladin blast me to pieces needlessly.

injury IS permanent. to me, question becomes-- how successful will gallo be in learning to play around his injury? if he gets good at this, and i think he is talented and young enough to adjust his skillz to this injury, then he ok. he will never be 100% of what he could have been, but the reservoir is so deep on kid that he can have very good career playing around that injury.

Yeah- "mr."- very respectful.

The thing is that none of you/us know jack-shyt about the status of his back, or if he is in pain, and to build on ignorance is going to get you nowhere. I get a big laugh when folks watch him make a poor reaction on a play and immediately conclude his back is an issue, when the other guys on our team are doing the same things with good backs.

By the way, if he is so severely injured that he has to stand in the corner all the time and not be involved in the offense, can you tell me what he is doing on defense all the time. This is why you sound like you are completely out of touch sometimes, mr. o- because you cannot cover-up an injury on the defensive end, and although he his not always successful on D, he is always being active. You are being myopic if you focus so much on one aspect of what he is doing on the court and neglect looking at everything else he is does. If his back is as bad as you think, would you expect him to be attempting to block shots like he does or box out when looking for a rebound?

I think he has to be more assertive in getting open, or taking it to the basket. I get frustrated watching him hanging out in the corner when he should be more active, but to neglect the other things he is doing on the court when making a judgment about his back, simply means you are cherry-picking, my friend.

You are more likely to be injured playing D than when playing offense, where players are overly protected against anything physical being done to them. You are more likely to put your back in a vulnerable situation on D, where you are making quick and sudden reactions like twisting and turning, and having to go up quickly to block shots or get rebounds.

excellent post, and you are right, everytime gallo does something wrong, i hear ignorant comments about his back.. I mean really , as you said, it is building upon ignorance...

My father was hit by a car when I was an infant, he had a bad back since then, for over 30 years now, and I will tell you this. It hurt him more reaching up than bending down.... So it is amazing that gallo can't do anything but hang in the corner and shoot because he has a bad back.. just absolutely silly.. How many guys with bad backs can continually reach up to shoot and do so at a high percentage.. you would think with a bad back that reaching up to shoot would be more painful than doing anything else...

it's not ignorance. and your father's situation is unique, just as gallo's. you can't predict how gallo will behave based on your father's very unique injury.

i be saying that i think gallo will be just fine, he have great career, but will he have career he could have had with a 100% healthy back? no. but that 100% career could have had MVPs in it. now? not so much, but all-star games? sure, maybe. he be ok, he play around injury. but why 21 year old laying down on sideline like 35 year old steve nash? steve nash still balling, but give break to me.

orangeblobman wrote:

tkf wrote:

Paladin55 wrote:

orangeblobman wrote:

playa2 wrote:

Martice wrote:I think Gallo can do more to free himself up than waiting for set plays. In addition, none of his teammates seem to have a problem taking the initiative to get themselves free. Gallo running off screens is a wonderful visual but he really doesn't look mobile at all. He seems to labor at times when running. Also, he has no lift when he shoots and he appears to need to set his feet before he shoots which suggests that he needs to be positioned some place like above the arc to get a good shot off.

All of these excuses for Gallo not getting more shots is hilarious!!! Although some of the reasons given may hold some truth at some point you have to look at the player and how tentative he looks when he is doing anything on offense besides taking a set shot.

Basketball I.Q., unselfishness and a deadly set shot means very little if the player lacks confidence and fails to assert himself.

Most want to believe that he isn't still injured. When you watch him run up and down the court he runs like a guy that has a bad back or stiff legs. At 21 yrs of age he's already doing what 25 yr old steve nash does, lay on his back on the sidelines when not in the game. Since we all know that he just got over back surgery it's quite safe to say the reason gallo mainly stays stationery in corners or on the perimitter is because THE INJURY IS PERMANANT !

35 year old nash*, but I agree. I say same thing many weeks ago, mr. paladin blast me to pieces needlessly.

injury IS permanent. to me, question becomes-- how successful will gallo be in learning to play around his injury? if he gets good at this, and i think he is talented and young enough to adjust his skillz to this injury, then he ok. he will never be 100% of what he could have been, but the reservoir is so deep on kid that he can have very good career playing around that injury.

Yeah- "mr."- very respectful.

The thing is that none of you/us know jack-shyt about the status of his back, or if he is in pain, and to build on ignorance is going to get you nowhere. I get a big laugh when folks watch him make a poor reaction on a play and immediately conclude his back is an issue, when the other guys on our team are doing the same things with good backs.

By the way, if he is so severely injured that he has to stand in the corner all the time and not be involved in the offense, can you tell me what he is doing on defense all the time. This is why you sound like you are completely out of touch sometimes, mr. o- because you cannot cover-up an injury on the defensive end, and although he his not always successful on D, he is always being active. You are being myopic if you focus so much on one aspect of what he is doing on the court and neglect looking at everything else he is does. If his back is as bad as you think, would you expect him to be attempting to block shots like he does or box out when looking for a rebound?

I think he has to be more assertive in getting open, or taking it to the basket. I get frustrated watching him hanging out in the corner when he should be more active, but to neglect the other things he is doing on the court when making a judgment about his back, simply means you are cherry-picking, my friend.

You are more likely to be injured playing D than when playing offense, where players are overly protected against anything physical being done to them. You are more likely to put your back in a vulnerable situation on D, where you are making quick and sudden reactions like twisting and turning, and having to go up quickly to block shots or get rebounds.

excellent post, and you are right, everytime gallo does something wrong, i hear ignorant comments about his back.. I mean really , as you said, it is building upon ignorance...

My father was hit by a car when I was an infant, he had a bad back since then, for over 30 years now, and I will tell you this. It hurt him more reaching up than bending down.... So it is amazing that gallo can't do anything but hang in the corner and shoot because he has a bad back.. just absolutely silly.. How many guys with bad backs can continually reach up to shoot and do so at a high percentage.. you would think with a bad back that reaching up to shoot would be more painful than doing anything else...

it's not ignorance. and your father's situation is unique, just as gallo's. you can't predict how gallo will behave based on your father's very unique injury.

i be saying that i think gallo will be just fine, he have great career, but will he have career he could have had with a 100% healthy back? no. but that 100% career could have had MVPs in it. now? not so much, but all-star games? sure, maybe. he be ok, he play around injury. but why 21 year old laying down on sideline like 35 year old steve nash? steve nash still balling, but give break to me.

I understand that back injuries are unique, but a lot of the symtoms are pretty common. Just like every broken leg isn't the same, but the common problem is that you can't walk on that broken leg..... But I understand the rest of your post, and can agree to some extent....

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If you notice when he runs down court he doesn't look stiff.

Also if he did these moves in the NBA I would think different about him. Notice he shows an array of moves and shots and he goes to get the ball.

In NY he looks stationary and uninterested. 82 games compared 20 30 or so games will wear and tear on his back.

You have to give him a bit of a break. This is just months after surgery and relative inactivity until Sept. when he was cleared to start training again. I would expect that he'd look a bit stiffer than when he was a fully flexible teenager.

Now if we would allow him to fully heal and get back to full strength and flexibility, then i'd like to see a comparison. How does KG look? How did Grant Hill Look or D. Wade when they 1st came back? It took more than a season for them to get back. Let's stop all this and at least be reasonable.

Cosmic wrote:Gallo has back problems and they show up in his play frequently. Anyone who dismisses this is either in denial or doesn't understand what back problems are all about. It's been confirmed that Gallo suffers from back spasms and that they inhibit his play.

The question is how severe are the problems and how much will they linger. I doubt anyone knows the answer to that. There are players who suffer through back problems and have gone on to have pretty good, albeit hampered careers. There are those who succumbed to the problems more often than not.

Where Gallo will go nobody knows but we do know one thing: He has back spasms and there are times when they are pretty bad and it shows...and there are times when they seem under control and he plays pretty good.

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playa2 wrote:

If you notice when he runs down court he doesn't look stiff.

Also if he did these moves in the NBA I would think different about him. Notice he shows an array of moves and shots and he goes to get the ball.

In NY he looks stationary and uninterested. 82 games compared 20 30 or so games will wear and tear on his back.

gallo was also about 6'8 then, now the kid is close to 6'11 now, I think that can make a huge difference in the way he moves...

If you had surgery and then had to wait months to heal, then start your rehab, then finally be cleared to train only a month before camp, how in shape do you think you'd be with much of your muscles having atrophied? Can you imagine that your back might be a bit stiffer and how painful it must be to start to stretch it back out? Give the kid a break and allow him to fully heal and get his strength back. GEEEEEEZ!!!

nyk4ever wrote:It's the 3rd quarter of the Suns game and Gallo has 20pts, scoring various ways, and 7 rebounds. Yeah, his back will never allow him to be a very good player.

Add in a sick 1 on 1 block on Jason Richardson.