[ IMAGES: Images ON turn off | ACCOUNT: User Status is LOCKED why? ]

Knicks Head Coach Mark Jackson Would Have Yanked Duhon Five Games Into The Season, Or Could He?
Author Thread
oohah
Posts: 26600
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 4/7/2005
Member: #887
11/27/2009  9:30 PM    LAST EDITED: 11/27/2009  9:31 PM
In case you don't understand, Panos, because I don't think you do, there is a difference between speculating/making predictions and making up something about a person out of thin air...which I know you did not do personally, but Kam77 did.

However you tried to compare the 2 things and they are simply not the same thing. I hope that clears it up for you.

oohah

Good luck Mike D'Antoni, 'cause you ain't never seen nothing like this before!
AUTOADVERT
orangeblobman
Posts: 27269
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 3/1/2009
Member: #2539
Nauru
11/27/2009  9:31 PM
oohah wrote:In case you don't understand, Panos, because I don't think you do, there is a difference between speculating and making something up out of thin air...which I know you did not do personally. But you tried to compare the 2 things and they are simply not the same thing.

I hope that clears it up for you.

oohah

WE AIN'T NOWHERE WITH THIS BUM CHOKER IN CARMELO. GIVE ME STARKS'S 2-21 ANY DAY OVER THIS LACKLUSTER CLUSTEREFF.
kam77
Posts: 27664
Alba Posts: 25
Joined: 3/17/2004
Member: #634
11/27/2009  9:46 PM
oohah wrote:
kam77 wrote:
Jackson thinks taking an assistant coaches job and "paying his dues" is beneath him. He expects a franchise to just make him a head coach.

Is that something you just made up? Because I don't remember reading or hearing that anywhere.

oohah

I didn't make it up. It's a fact. Why is he announcing instead of coaching?

lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
orangeblobman
Posts: 27269
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 3/1/2009
Member: #2539
Nauru
11/27/2009  10:12 PM
kam77 wrote:
oohah wrote:
kam77 wrote:
Jackson thinks taking an assistant coaches job and "paying his dues" is beneath him. He expects a franchise to just make him a head coach.

Is that something you just made up? Because I don't remember reading or hearing that anywhere.

oohah

I didn't make it up. It's a fact. Why is he announcing instead of coaching?

If that's a fact, then F mark jackson.

WE AIN'T NOWHERE WITH THIS BUM CHOKER IN CARMELO. GIVE ME STARKS'S 2-21 ANY DAY OVER THIS LACKLUSTER CLUSTEREFF.
misterearl
Posts: 38786
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 11/16/2004
Member: #799
USA
11/27/2009  10:25 PM    LAST EDITED: 11/27/2009  10:31 PM
The Answer Man NEVER Attributes Arbitrary Quotes To Anyone

kam77 - you have provided not a shread of evidence to back your claim that Mark Jackson feels or thinks he is above "paying his dues". A quote or reference would be nice.

Q. kam77 - Why is he announcing instead of coaching?

A. Because someone thought enough of his announcing ability to pay him in the same manner that Doug Collins, Jeff Van Gundy, John Thompson, Hubie Brown and Tom Heinsohn got paid.

c'mon man

once a knick always a knick
kam77
Posts: 27664
Alba Posts: 25
Joined: 3/17/2004
Member: #634
11/27/2009  10:29 PM
misterearl wrote:kam77 - you have provided not a shread of evidence to back your claim that Mark Jackson feels or thinks he is above "paying his dues". A quote or reference would be nice.

c'mon man

Where's your evidence?

lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
misterearl
Posts: 38786
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 11/16/2004
Member: #799
USA
11/27/2009  10:53 PM    LAST EDITED: 11/27/2009  10:56 PM
kam77 - evidence?

Can you please identify an instance where I have attributed an arbitrary quote, random opinion, intuitive feeling or point of view to someone else?

You seem to be stuck trying to justify how Mark Jackson feels about "paying his dues" without a shread of evidence to prove HE feels entitled to a job.

My opinion of his coaching ability, something TOTALLY different from making an assumption about another persons feeling, is a separate matter entirely.

why is it so important for you to weave the two things as one?

once a knick always a knick
djsunyc
Posts: 44929
Alba Posts: 42
Joined: 1/16/2004
Member: #536
11/27/2009  11:10 PM    LAST EDITED: 11/27/2009  11:11 PM
walsh went an unprecedented route in trying to tear down the knicks, this would've been the opportune time to give a rookie coach a shot too.

but he starphucked...just like isiah tried to put players in positions they shouldn't be in, walsh brought in a coach that isn't known for developing young players...

orangeblobman
Posts: 27269
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 3/1/2009
Member: #2539
Nauru
11/27/2009  11:15 PM
djsunyc wrote:walsh went an unprecedented route in trying to tear down the knicks, this would've been the opportune time to give a rookie coach a shot too.

but he starphucked...just like isiah tried to put players in positions they shouldn't be in, walsh brought in a coach that isn't known for developing young players...

he did go unprecendented, and it was necessary to save this franchise.

they way dolan throws cash around, signing mda was a good choice too because, while these 2 years were/are difficult, it will pay off in the last 3 of mda's contract.

playing it beautifully so far.

we should note that the biggest problems on this team are curry and jeffrie's contracts. these are by far the biggest problems. and these are not donnie's doing.

so give me a break djsunyc.

WE AIN'T NOWHERE WITH THIS BUM CHOKER IN CARMELO. GIVE ME STARKS'S 2-21 ANY DAY OVER THIS LACKLUSTER CLUSTEREFF.
misterearl
Posts: 38786
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 11/16/2004
Member: #799
USA
11/28/2009  10:28 AM
"We talkin bout practice..."

"Don't get me wrong I understand it, but my feeling, Mike should be [named] vice president of basketball and let him coach the practices and give the losses to someone else," said George Karl, who shares the same agent with D'Antoni, Warren LeGarie.

Let him coach the practices and give the losses to someone else?

sheesh

once a knick always a knick
BasketballJones
Posts: 31973
Alba Posts: 19
Joined: 7/16/2002
Member: #290
USA
11/28/2009  10:46 AM
misterearl wrote:"We talkin bout practice..."

"Don't get me wrong I understand it, but my feeling, Mike should be [named] vice president of basketball and let him coach the practices and give the losses to someone else," said George Karl, who shares the same agent with D'Antoni, Warren LeGarie.

Let him coach the practices and give the losses to someone else?

sheesh

LOL.

https:// It's not so hard.
McK1
Posts: 26527
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 7/16/2005
Member: #964
11/28/2009  10:58 AM
orangeblobman wrote:
djsunyc wrote:walsh went an unprecedented route in trying to tear down the knicks, this would've been the opportune time to give a rookie coach a shot too.

but he starphucked...just like isiah tried to put players in positions they shouldn't be in, walsh brought in a coach that isn't known for developing young players...

he did go unprecendented, and it was necessary to save this franchise.

they way dolan throws cash around, signing mda was a good choice too because, while these 2 years were/are difficult, it will pay off in the last 3 of mda's contract.

playing it beautifully so far.

we should note that the biggest problems on this team are curry and jeffrie's contracts. these are by far the biggest problems. and these are not donnie's doing.

so give me a break djsunyc.

the biggest problem is Mike is a fraud and Walsh whiffed at the draft

the stop underrating David Lee movement 1. FIRE MIKE 2. HIRE MULLIN 3. PAY AVERY 4. FREE NATE!!!
misterearl
Posts: 38786
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 11/16/2004
Member: #799
USA
11/28/2009  11:01 AM
BasketballJones - no doubt

George Karl must have a touch of altitude sickness.

"I'll coach the practices and you pick up the orange courtesy phone on the bench, anytime I call you during a game from the executive suite"

gimme a break

once a knick always a knick
loweyecue
Posts: 27468
Alba Posts: 6
Joined: 11/20/2005
Member: #1037

11/28/2009  1:05 PM
JrZyHuStLa - I love how you impose random opinion in someone else's mouth.

MisterEarl how is this different from you telling us what Mark Jackson would have doen as head coach? Exactly how many games did you see him coaching in the NBA? Crystal Ball time again? At least JrZyHustla didn't start a thread with his claim.

TKF on Melo ::....he is a punk, a jerk, a self absorbed out of shape, self aggrandizing, unprofessional, volume chucking coach killing playoff loser!!
misterearl
Posts: 38786
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 11/16/2004
Member: #799
USA
11/28/2009  3:46 PM
The Answer Man Tells It Like It Is

Q. loweyecue - how is this different from you telling us what Mark Jackson would have (done) as head coach?

A. the (huge) difference is I am speaking for myself.

Not EVER to be confused with speaking for someone else.

In MY OPINION, Mark Jackson would have yanked Chris Duhon by now. I base that OPINION on the feisty and determined playing personality of Mark Jackson as a lead guard, how Jackson understands how essential leadership is in setting the tempo and how shooting 22 percent is never acceptable, whether you are "captain" or not.

once a knick always a knick
knicks1248
Posts: 42059
Alba Posts: 1
Joined: 2/3/2004
Member: #582
11/28/2009  6:06 PM
I would never have TD or Nate running the PG, neither are leaders, floor generals, or have a high bball IQ..

I do believe MJ would have had a little better success with duhon then MDA, simple because of there career's as players, But this is a argumentitve theory all day.

ES
misterearl
Posts: 38786
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 11/16/2004
Member: #799
USA
11/28/2009  6:35 PM
knicks1248 - as D'Antoni also played guard. Although his NBA/ABA assist average (1.9 and 2.3 per game) pale in comparison to Mark Jackson's 8 per game, I offer the difference is in temperment and patience. D'Antoni expects Duhon, his chosen leader, to eventually become productive. Mark Jackson, a licensed minister, would have prayed over it and then had a "Come to Jesus" moment with Duhon.

For those who don't have a clue what a "come to Jesus" moment is, just think of being called in to meet Tony Soprano at Satriales.

once a knick always a knick
loweyecue
Posts: 27468
Alba Posts: 6
Joined: 11/20/2005
Member: #1037

11/28/2009  8:53 PM
misterearl wrote:The Answer Man Tells It Like It Is

Q. loweyecue - how is this different from you telling us what Mark Jackson would have (done) as head coach?

A. the (huge) difference is I am speaking for myself.

Not EVER to be confused with speaking for someone else.

In MY OPINION, Mark Jackson would have yanked Chris Duhon by now. I base that OPINION on the feisty and determined playing personality of Mark Jackson as a lead guard, how Jackson understands how essential leadership is in setting the tempo and how shooting 22 percent is never acceptable, whether you are "captain" or not.

We saw how THAT worked out with Isiah, didn't we?

TKF on Melo ::....he is a punk, a jerk, a self absorbed out of shape, self aggrandizing, unprofessional, volume chucking coach killing playoff loser!!
kam77
Posts: 27664
Alba Posts: 25
Joined: 3/17/2004
Member: #634
11/28/2009  9:38 PM
In my opinion Mark Jackson thinks taking an assistant coaches job is beneath him.
lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
misterearl
Posts: 38786
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 11/16/2004
Member: #799
USA
11/28/2009  10:50 PM
No doubt, even Phil Jackson paid his dues with the Albany Patroons

kam77 - possibly.

Based on the evidence, Mark Jackson could be perfectly happy in the broadcast booth. Upon further review of the video tape, Jackson was never interviewed by the Knicks or even mentioned by any Knicks official as being considered for the job of head or assistant coach. Those smarmy NYC gossip reporters had nothing else to speculate about.

I wonder what the press reaction would be to either Mark Jackson or Phil Jackson leading the Knicks to a 3-13 record... and then what adjustments either would make in seven seconds or less.

once a knick always a knick
Knicks Head Coach Mark Jackson Would Have Yanked Duhon Five Games Into The Season, Or Could He?

©2001-2025 ultimateknicks.comm All rights reserved. About Us.
This site is not affiliated with the NY Knicks or the National Basketball Association in any way.
You may visit the official NY Knicks web site by clicking here.

All times (GMT-05:00) Eastern Time.

Terms of Use and Privacy Policy