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TMS
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11/21/2009  8:13 PM
martin, let's not be naive here... whether our young guys are getting minutes right now or not, that's not gonna factor into anything when it comes time to sign some FA's this offseason... all this stuff Walsh & MDA are selling u guys on is a buncha double talk... yeah, the Knicks brass is so concerned about developing our youth that they pursued Jason Kidd & Grant Hill in free agency this offseason... that concern will bleed over into this offseason when they go hard after Lebron, Bosh, Amare & Joe Johnson too... don't believe me now, but you'll see what i'm saying in due time, trust me... i tried to warn you.
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martin
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11/21/2009  8:19 PM
TMS wrote:martin, let's not be naive here... whether our young guys are getting minutes right now or not, that's not gonna factor into anything when it comes time to sign some FA's this offseason... all this stuff Walsh & MDA are selling u guys on is a buncha double talk... yeah, the Knicks brass is so concerned about developing our youth that they pursued Jason Kidd & Grant Hill in free agency this offseason... that concern will bleed over into this offseason when they go hard after Lebron, Bosh, Amare & Joe Johnson too... don't believe me now, but you'll see what i'm saying in due time, trust me... i tried to warn you.

I am not being naive, I think you are being hard-headed.

Knicks lack leadership, and that's exactly why Walsh pursued Kidd, Hill. Hahn noted the other day that the lockerroom is being lead by Lee and Harrington, 2 guys who have accomplished nada in the league.

Do you really thing having those 2 guys on the team is a bad thing and/or wouldn't give a boost to the young players?

One way to develop young players is to give them playing time. More assistant coaches help. Having good players next to you also helps. This is not as black and white as you are portraying it to be.

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11/22/2009  9:51 AM
I think the youth would develop more quickly playing next to better players and playing in more competitive games.

I think we should have signed Iverson. I still think we should.

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11/22/2009  12:18 PM
crzymdups wrote:I think the youth would develop more quickly playing next to better players and playing in more competitive games.

I think we should have signed Iverson. I still think we should.

Iverson never made anyone on his team better............. NEVER!!

He would of gave us more wins this year yes ........... But would of hurt us long term by taking the shots others need to take!!

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11/22/2009  1:56 PM    LAST EDITED: 11/22/2009  1:57 PM
umynot wrote:
crzymdups wrote:I think the youth would develop more quickly playing next to better players and playing in more competitive games.

I think we should have signed Iverson. I still think we should.

Iverson never made anyone on his team better............. NEVER!!

He would of gave us more wins this year yes ........... But would of hurt us long term by taking the shots others need to take!!

Iverson is a guy u bring in to carry ur team... he's proven he can do that throughout his career, it's only when he's asked to take a secondary role that the problem arises... he wasn't the main guy in DEN, Carmelo was, & in DET they already had an established system that had success in the past w/the same players, AI wasn't the main guy over there either... & in MEM they were dumb enough to sign AI w/the idea that he'd accept a secondary role to an unproven player like Mike Conley for God's sakes... how can u blame AI for not being happy in that situation?... these problems would not have arisen w/the Knicks... we have no one who can carry this team, we have no go to guys in crunchtime, we have no one who can create their own shot on a consistent basis... we have a buncha guys who are more suited to play around a dominant player on offense... we saw D Lee & Nate play well when Eddy Curry was the main focus on offense, & Gallo & Chandler would be nice wing players playing off AI's penetration & scoring ability if u ask me... Curry would have benefitted from AI's superior penetrating, ballhandling & passing skills, getting a lot more easy baskets downlow than he would get from Chris Duhon or Toney Douglas.

bringing AI in on a 1 year rental at veteran's minimum dollars would have made total sense for the Knicks... developing our young guys is just a rouse Donnie & MDA are trying to sell u guys on... none of that's gonna matter in a few months anyway when we go after the big names in free agency... trust me... & now we're hearing Knick fans say they wanna go after Tracy McGrady... don't u think he'd take shots away from our young guys too? i'm telling u they're talking out of both sides of their mouth on this one... i tried to warn you.

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11/22/2009  2:25 PM
Still talking about AI?
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11/22/2009  2:32 PM
yes
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11/22/2009  4:07 PM
TMS wrote:yes

I think AI alone might get you to 30,000

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11/22/2009  4:12 PM
BasketballJones wrote:
TMS wrote:yes

I think AI alone might get you to 30,000

either that or pointing out how Chris Duhon gets 46 minutes when we're trying to develop our young guys & counting how many DNP-CD's Jordan Hill gets this year.

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11/22/2009  4:13 PM
oohah wrote:Wait. Look at this:
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Is that the same rainbow? Rainbow ATM! 2 Unicorns, one rainbow!

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