subzero0 wrote:

nyk4ever wrote:

subzero0 wrote:

subzero0 wrote:Option 1. Banking our entire future on the hope that great championship level players will come in 1 free agency period, sure. What can possibly go wrong with that?

Option 2. Tank, get a high draft pick, and then sign someone to the team. In that way we can have two possibly championship level players at a relatively low cost. But oh no Option 1 is obviously the best way to go right

This thinking will backfire on us entirely this summer. We have a horrible team now and whoever wants to come here this summer is not going to be good enough to get us a championship. We are going to end up being perennial playoff losers... just like the Suns, just like the Pacers. But dont take my word for it. Watch as the next few years unfolds yet again into another disaster of team management, failed hopes, and horrible basketball. But hey everything is ok right?

2009 was the year I predicted the Knicks would be laying out a future of suck, going to go into 1st round 2nd round playoff purgatory. Wow, those year really just flew by. Lets look at the progress the Knicks have made since. Two straight seasons, two straight first round losses. Both of which we werent even in the series. Oh and by the way we are capped out and cant add any more players to the team. For goodness sake, we might not even be able to resign the players we already have.

I said it before and I will say it again, we should have cleaned house 2008-2009 so that we could have had the greatest probability of getting that top draft pick. Instead the management traded for players that had expiriing contracts to try to have room for LeBron James. It was a big mistake and it is going to cost us atleast another 8 years without a championship.

nothing is certain. portland was in the lotto for years and what has that gotten them? same with the kings and bobcats

Wow, funny you didnt mention the Clippers. Who did they get in the 2009 draft nyk4ever?

you're right they did get griffin but they been in the lotto for like 10 years. they struck out on player after player before griffin and he even missed his rookie year with a knee surgery.

it's also funny that you didn't even bother to respond to the teams i mentioned. the point being is that anyone can say we should build through the draft and if they say that they are right. but that is just one route and it is not a guarentee because who knows if players will pan out or get injured. look at the nets when they got the #1 pick. it turned out to be kenyon martin in a horrible draft. i like kenyon but first pick? it's not an exact science.

Bonn1997 wrote:No one said the draft is a guarantee. It has the best odds though. It's ironic that none of the teams you cite that struggled using the draft have struggled as much as we have.

wow really?

you mean to tell me that we've struggled more than the kings and bobcats? the clippers were good this year, but what else have they done? the blazers franchise has been destroyed becuase of the draft.

what sample are you citing this from?

Bonn1997 wrote:No one said the draft is a guarantee. It has the best odds though. It's ironic that none of the teams you cite that struggled using the draft have struggled as much as we have.

Yea, this is right on the money. You have to give yourself a chance at getting that player.

The Knicks have to put themselves into a position where there is the maximum chance of getting a championship level player. I feel the only way to really do that is clean house getting draft picks and easily movable pieces in return.

The player you draft you can sign under his bird rights. That gives you the flexibility of being able to sign two max free agents. The players you choose here also is not an exact science. But again you have to put yourself in the position to maximize your chance of getting those championship level free agents. That in turn gives you a good shot at a championship or multiple championships.

mrKnickShot wrote:Building and being a bottom 5 team in the league so you can get a top pick does not fly in NY

NY aint Pittsburg

True. Who has even heard of Pittsburg's NBA franchise? I mean, I know you follow them, but not most people.

mrKnickShot wrote:Building and being a bottom 5 team in the league so you can get a top pick does not fly in NY

NY aint Pittsburg

Why?

I have started to think about this seriously. Why do people say we cannot rebuild in New York? Because the fans cant take losing for an extended period of time? How long have the Knicks been a loosing franchise now? 10 years? We have already been losing for a very long time, but we've been losing without direction. Why cant we rebuild in New York?

subzero0 wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:Building and being a bottom 5 team in the league so you can get a top pick does not fly in NY

NY aint Pittsburg

Why?

I have started to think about this seriously. Why do people say we cannot rebuild in New York? Because the fans cant take losing for an extended period of time? How long have the Knicks been a loosing franchise now? 10 years? We have already been losing for a very long time, but we've been losing without direction. Why cant we rebuild in New York?

nyk4ever wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:No one said the draft is a guarantee. It has the best odds though. It's ironic that none of the teams you cite that struggled using the draft have struggled as much as we have.

wow really?

you mean to tell me that we've struggled more than the kings and bobcats? the clippers were good this year, but what else have they done? the blazers franchise has been destroyed becuase of the draft.

what sample are you citing this from?