TMS wrote:the point isn't that u should be concerned about other teams as much as it is u should at least be fair & impartial when it comes to judging these prospects & use the same line of measurement for 1 that u would another regardless if he's the guy we picked or not... when i hear people complaining that we could have had guys like Jeff Teague or Ty Lawson instead of Jordan Hill it makes me scratch my head... what have those guys shown so far that would make u believe we whiffed on not taking those guys? i wanted Demar Derozan over anyone in this draft but look at him too, right now his minutes have been slowly dwindling in TOR & he's fighting for playing time with guys like Marco Bellinelli, Jarrett Jack & Antoine Wright... does that make him a bust already or does it mean he's also young & still needs more development before he can show his full potential? his stats aren't exactly eye popping either for that matter... so what other prospect other than Branden Jennings can u really look at right now & definitively say that would have made an instant impact on the Knicks had we drafted him? point them out to me cuz i don't see any personally.

good post.. I find it funny how some say they are not concerned with other teams, yet they are concerned with the players they drafted...

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nixluva wrote:

McK1 wrote:Clyde said he reminds him of Kenny Anderson.

scott skiles is one of the harder coaches to play for and he isn't having a problem with jennings.

skiles played and knows the pg position as well as any. i'll take his ability to judge if a guy can run a team over dantonis every day of the week.

Ag ain Jennings had 1 of the most prolific high school careers ever. If not for the age rule he'd have gone lotto. a 19 yr old from compton going half way around the world to prepare to be a pro should have not come under the statistical scrutiny he did. skiles called his old teammate from michigan state that played with Jennings out in Italy for firsthand knowledge to solidify his decision, whom did NY talk too.

What makes Skiles a better judge of what MDA wants and needs in a PG than MDA himself? McK1 that has to be one of the dumbest things anyone has ever said to me. This isn't about Jennings, it's about MDA and what he wants and needs as coach of the team. Walsh feels he has his coach and he's gonna give him what he needs. They likely both felt that he wasn't the guard for them. Sure he looks spectacular now on his team, but that doesn't mean that he's the right guard going forward for this team. I'm not gonna get all crazy over the kid. I've been watching BB long enough to have seen a lot of kids with his skills and it doesn't guarantee greatness or winning BB.

where did I say Skiles is a better judge of what mda wants? wtf r u talking about!?! Anyway maybe I'm reading what you wrote wrong but it seemed you are implying jennings is/was neither smart or compliant and thats why MDA wasn't interested. In reply to that I trust Skiles ability to judge a pg more than D'amnphoney.

My opinion on the Jennings issue and it is likely a very ignorant one is the hick from west virginia had him stereotyped from day one and thats why there was only a feigned interest and no in depth scouting was actually done.

furthermore in regards to what mda wants: he hand picked du du and gave marcus banks 4 yrs 24 mil when he was his own gm in phoenix

My Point is that you said you'd take Skiles PG evaluating skills over MDA's as if this was a purely simplistic case of judging where someone should be drafted relative to their talent, but that's not what is most important here. AI has more talent than most players but that doesn't make him the right fit for every team. It's quite possible that both Walsh and MDA felt he wasn't what they were looking for just like they did with Bayless or any other Guard they've passed on. It's not a pure talent thing and it's not a case of one PG fits all. Skiles views dont factor in since he's not MDA and doesn't look at the same things in the same way.

As for Duhon, you have to understand that this wasn't a best case scenario as if he would pick him over all other PG's if available. The way you make it sound you'd think we had this long list of great PG options that would be willing to play on a 2 yr. contract. Please don't use such simplistic tactics to try and make your point. Besides, Duhon was playing just fine fr much of the season. I don't know what's going on in his head right now, but he was playing the way we needed at one point. Not to mention that he's not the permanent solution anyway. Banks wasn't added to replace MDA's #1, but to back him up and it was a gamble that didn't work out. No one is ever perfect in every move they make. Once again I think it's a bogus thing to use against MDA. Jennings may prove to be a guy who could do what MDA needed, but that wasn't fully evident before the draft.

Hill is definetely showing improvement and the combine numbers prove Walsh's and D'Antoni's reasoning. He gets stronger and understands the game better he has a very high cieling. I would like to see some more aggressiveness on his part. D' seems to like to give his rooks more minutes on the road for some reason ;-) Fragile confidence building?

There is much more at play here than we are party to. I'd look for some moves soon.
It's anyones guess as to what Eddie curry's impact will be. I did not like Darko sitting while Horford muscled in down low as the game went away in the last ten minutes. Seems Lee could have set his feet and taken a charge. He doesn't get any charge calls does he?