Bippity10 wrote:In LB's year, the players quit on the coach because he was mean. We all hopped on the fire LB bandwagon and what was the result? The result was that we taught the players that it's okay to quit on your coach and your team as long as the circumstances are okay. We did not teach our young guys like David Lee and Nate to suck it up and play harder when things get bad, instead we taught them that it was okay to quit when it's someone else's fault that things aren't going well. Our environment stayed the same, an organization where you go to collect your money, play however you want, and in the end management will fire the coach and the GM.

Yes, we taught them good. I'm glad you're as proud of our accomplishment as I am.

Fast forward a few years and what is happening. We are in the midst of gutting our roster to start over again. Every player has a 1 year contract for a reason. Because we realize that they are not winners and are trying to gut the roster to bring in real winners and real stars. Now the team instead of seeing this as an opportunity for them to step up and show the world that they are worthy of long-term contracts. Instead of showing the world that they are really good players and that NY management are idiots for not signing them to long term contracts what do they do? They instead pout and quit once again. they aren't loved so they stop playing. A new batch to go along with some of the same faces. And what do the papers and the fans want??? They want to commit the same mistake of the past. Fire the coach, and show players that in NY it's okay for you to give us nothing

Yep. Fire the coach. I agree. And humiliate him while you're at it. Isn't that what basketball is all about?

amusement factor aside:

42 different starting line-ups
giving guys the start b/c they were in their hometown
conducting roadside interviews with the press

was totally rediculous

I don't know what kind of drugs they got out in Detroit but a year removed from the Palace and he was still high.

Bippity10 wrote:In LB's year, the players quit on the coach because he was mean. We all hopped on the fire LB bandwagon and what was the result? The result was that we taught the players that it's okay to quit on your coach and your team as long as the circumstances are okay. We did not teach our young guys like David Lee and Nate to suck it up and play harder when things get bad, instead we taught them that it was okay to quit when it's someone else's fault that things aren't going well. Our environment stayed the same, an organization where you go to collect your money, play however you want, and in the end management will fire the coach and the GM.

Fast forward a few years and what is happening. We are in the midst of gutting our roster to start over again. Every player has a 1 year contract for a reason. Because we realize that they are not winners and are trying to gut the roster to bring in real winners and real stars. Now the team instead of seeing this as an opportunity for them to step up and show the world that they are worthy of long-term contracts. Instead of showing the world that they are really good players and that NY management are idiots for not signing them to long term contracts what do they do? They instead pout and quit once again. they aren't loved so they stop playing. A new batch to go along with some of the same faces. And what do the papers and the fans want??? They want to commit the same mistake of the past. Fire the coach, and show players that in NY it's okay for you to give us nothing. When you quit we will blame the coach. Bip tried to warn you when we fired LB. I don't care if you are a D'Antoni fan or not. This would be the worst possible time to start cleaning house again. Eventually you have to gut this thing. Eventually you will have to suffer some seasons like this as you start over. Question is, do you want to do it now or postpone it again for another 3 or 4 years.

I'm trying to warn you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

+1.