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jimimou
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11/2/2009  1:09 PM
Cosmic wrote:
jimimou wrote:

not gonna debate this with you - you are wrong. you wanna talk about person being heated, fine, you wanna talk about person letting their passion get the best of them, fine. but not whole race of people. i believe that is the definition of stereotype cosmic and you just showed it to be true.

a simple, my bad would have sufficed, rather you go down the defensive route. and, you begin with oh please, like its your opinion that is right here? come across like a mature adult, not some defensive child. if you knew greek people at all, and not some subset that you may call friends, you would know that statement to not be true. learn about the people before you go spouting dumb statemets cosmic.



Eh, I'm not looking for a debate, argument, or fight. It's an observation I made and I will stick to it. I think this world has gotten so PC it's pathetic. Each race has it's good and bad people but each race also has definitive traits. That is just how it is just as cats and dogs have their traits. To suggest all men are equal, the same, etc - to me is just PC bullcrap.

If we're so equal let us just chuck out all our heritages, prides, etc, and photoshop every photo we own GREY.

Well, that's not reality and that is not nature.

By nature certain races have certain traits. It is JUST HOW IT IS.

To dismiss this is to dismiss yourself and your roots.

There is nothing racial/racist/derogatory inferred here. Those who think that is what I am doing are super sensitive and caught up in PC garbage.

If anything, if anyone reading this is objective, they would see that despite being unhappy with GKF I am actually defending him in some capacity.

But, I guess, I'll let the close minded "every one is equal and to say otherwise is racist and ill advised cause you'll hurt people's feelings!" crow have their way and I will bow out of this.

Not a great way to live anyone's life though...this PC garbage that is. We're all very different but those with common heritages do display like traits. Again, to ignore this, is to ignore one's self.

I refuse to live like that and I don't care who gets offended by such because to me there is nothing to be offended by.

thanks for more stupidity. i'll never get back the 10 minutes of my life wasted talking to you today so i'll stop here.

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11/2/2009  1:17 PM
I'm Greek, and Jimi I don't know about you but, I don't think my passions get the better of me any more than the average person, and probably less so.
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11/2/2009  1:18 PM
Hey Cosmic,
Is your family mafia?
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11/2/2009  1:19 PM
93BUICK wrote:I think this thread needs some of my thread killing magic.

It didn't work this time. Try again?

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11/2/2009  1:23 PM    LAST EDITED: 11/2/2009  1:24 PM
Cosmic wrote:Eh, I'm not looking for a debate, argument, or fight. It's an observation I made and I will stick to it. I think this world has gotten so PC it's pathetic. Each race has it's good and bad people but each race also has definitive traits. That is just how it is just as cats and dogs have their traits. To suggest all men are equal, the same, etc - to me is just PC bullcrap.

If we're so equal let us just chuck out all our heritages, prides, etc, and photoshop every photo we own GREY.

Well, that's not reality and that is not nature.

By nature certain races have certain traits. It is JUST HOW IT IS.

To dismiss this is to dismiss yourself and your roots.

There is nothing racial/racist/derogatory inferred here. Those who think that is what I am doing are super sensitive and caught up in PC garbage.

If anything, if anyone reading this is objective, they would see that despite being unhappy with GKF I am actually defending him in some capacity.

But, I guess, I'll let the close minded "every one is equal and to say otherwise is racist and ill advised cause you'll hurt people's feelings!" crow have their way and I will bow out of this.

Not a great way to live anyone's life though...this PC garbage that is. We're all very different but those with common heritages do display like traits. Again, to ignore this, is to ignore one's self.

I refuse to live like that and I don't care who gets offended by such because to me there is nothing to be offended by.

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11/2/2009  1:28 PM
let gkf live!
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11/2/2009  1:32 PM
Panos wrote:Hey Cosmic,
Is your family mafia?

A couple.

But you guys are being way over sensitive and not reading what I am saying. You're taking offense to it as if I'm being racial and I am not.

I will say one last thing. There is an Orlando Magic fan I debate hoops with on another site. He gets real nasty with some people at times but to me I think it's misinterpreted as being pridefully headstrong, something that Greeks, and Italians like myself are known to be. (Again, to act like this is not a truth of nature, means you guys are brainwashed by the PC crowd.)

I had this same discussion with him and others to interject into a thread on another site where this guy was getting blasted for how he handles himself.

Want to know something? That guy, who is Greek, and another Greek poster on that site, agreed with me through and through that their pride and passion and enthusiasm does get the better of them and therefore they come off as combative because they are intense in their debates but they DONT MEAN TO BE it's a misinterpretation.

That is what I am saying here. This is what GKF does. That's the point I'm making. It couldn't be ANY CLEARER but you guys are being over sensitive PC sheep. Open your eyes and realize we're all different but just like family members have like traits --- entire heritages have like traits. It's not racist it is simply nature.

If you guys had it your way you'd crucify me for saying that cats, dogs, and elephants have differing traits but like traits within their own species. But, that would sound REAL DUMB, right? But when you apply it to people you get people who get all bent out of shape out of it and suggest such comments are racist and stupid.

And despite the over-sensitivity of some on here this is indeed just a fact of nature. If you don't want to live with that so be it. What was the movie in the 70s (or 80s) where there was that school where everyone had to be equal so they took the jocks and made them wear heavy chains...? That's what you guys want. That's not realistic.

The bottom line is that as a whole Greeks and Italians(like myself) are intense individuals and it gets the better of us when heated debates ensue.

If you don't like it that's your guys perrogatives but to act like I'm being an ******* is out of bounds for that is not what I am doing.

Drop the PC crap for a change.

Now, I've said my peace, and I REALLY don't know why you PC people try to twist my words into something they are not.

Open your damn eyes and stop being sheep.

...../involvement. (And, yes, I will read responses, but I won't reply because I've said what I want to say and there's no reason for a continued back and forth. Embrace your heritage don't deny it and pretend you're the same as everyone of other cultures. You're not. That's what makes cultures and heritages GREAT. They are DIFFERENT and there is a LIKENESS within cultures.

If it were up to you PC people a troop of monkeys, 5 strong, would have individual personalities of a cat, dog, monkey, elephant, rhino. Because, according to you, those five monekys, despite being of the same troop, couldn't POSSIBLY have similiar traits, for that'd be a racist observation.

Get over yourselves and try thinking outside the box.

Don't like it? I don't care.

Offended? You shouldn't be. Put your pants back on.

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11/2/2009  1:34 PM    LAST EDITED: 11/2/2009  1:34 PM
BasketballJones wrote:


[misterearl]

I miss killa4luv

[/misterearl]

There's only one race of human beings. The human race. And we're all idiots.


Yes, we are all idiots, but we are not the same (read above post)


.......done with this topic. Open your minds back up, please, and stop being sheep to the PC crowd. It serves you and your minds NO GOOD. People are different. People from like origins have like traits. That's not racist that's fact and it's quite cool.

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11/2/2009  1:37 PM

And this year's official Ross Perot "You People" award goes to....

Cosmic!

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11/2/2009  1:40 PM
Thanks for reminding me, B.Jones:

THE OFFICIAL THROW BACK PICTURE:

WE AIN'T NOWHERE WITH THIS BUM CHOKER IN CARMELO. GIVE ME STARKS'S 2-21 ANY DAY OVER THIS LACKLUSTER CLUSTEREFF.
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11/2/2009  2:01 PM
Cosmic - first, you are an idiot and should go back to school. Second, and simply stated, you cannot generalize behavior of individuals based on their "race." Whether it be a positive, negative, or neutral generalization, you can't do it. How do you think slavery was justified in America? Also, the term "race" is a modern term that was actually first used by the Portugese in the 1500's(they called it raza) as a way to begin to describe groups of people based on outwardly different physical characteristics (e.g. skin color). Scientically, no commonalities or differencies have ever been proved to exist across different races. Trust me, people like you have tried really hard to establish scientific validity to the notion that people differ across race and each and every time they have been shot down.

Third - using the term political correctness over and over again and ascribing it to people who disagree with you is retarded (to use a non PC term). You may be a good guy (I have no idea), but your logic is flawed and people that disagree with you are neither PC or non-PC, they are just more wise than you.

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11/2/2009  2:17 PM
jusnice wrote:Cosmic - first, you are an idiot and should go back to school. Second, and simply stated, you cannot generalize behavior of individuals based on their "race." Whether it be a positive, negative, or neutral generalization, you can't do it. How do you think slavery was justified in America? Also, the term "race" is a modern term that was actually first used by the Portugese in the 1500's(they called it raza) as a way to begin to describe groups of people based on outwardly different physical characteristics (e.g. skin color). Scientically, no commonalities or differencies have ever been proved to exist across different races. Trust me, people like you have tried really hard to establish scientific validity to the notion that people differ across race and each and every time they have been shot down.

Third - using the term political correctness over and over again and ascribing it to people who disagree with you is retarded (to use a non PC term). You may be a good guy (I have no idea), but your logic is flawed and people that disagree with you are neither PC or non-PC, they are just more wise than you.

First of all perhaps it is you who needs to "go back to school" or rather, get out of school and free think for yourself.

Slavery? It was perpetuated by black land owners in Africa who sold their brothers out for commodities from other lands. Also, 80% of all African slaves wound up in Brazil and that is why the overall complexion of the Brazillian nation differs widely. 16% made it to the Caribbean. Again, this is why their overall complexion varies widely. 4% of all African slaves wound up in America - yet - the world, the uneducated world, acts as if America was the perpetrator of slavery of Africans.

So, yeah, go back to school, or, read up on things with your own time and avoid tainted sermons meant to lead in the path of the person giving such sermons - which is tainted.

No, I haven't ever been shot down for knowing and speaking that heritages have like traits just as family members have like traits. You can't shoot down nature and absolute fact of nature. You just cannot no matter how much you wish to do so.

Political correctness? Yes, this is the root of the distain people have for such conversations. They listen and they listen and they listen and they forget to speak for themselves.

Again, I task you to find anything RACIST in what I have said. You cannot because it does not exist. I fully embrace my Italian heritage and even laugh at and mock the idiosyncrasies which are so prevalent in the Italian culture or even within my own family.

Those that cannot are the ones with the problem. Not me. Enjoy your faceful of sand as you shove your head as deep as you can.

...I meant to not reply anymore but to be called out in such a manner required I do so and continue to clarify my point of view. One that seems very lost on many. To me, and I'm sure some who read this, it's quite clear. To those who have refused to think for themselves....this is the work of a terrorist I assume. BAH to you guys.

Wake the hell up......

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11/2/2009  2:25 PM
Cosmic wrote:
jusnice wrote:Cosmic - first, you are an idiot and should go back to school. Second, and simply stated, you cannot generalize behavior of individuals based on their "race." Whether it be a positive, negative, or neutral generalization, you can't do it. How do you think slavery was justified in America? Also, the term "race" is a modern term that was actually first used by the Portugese in the 1500's(they called it raza) as a way to begin to describe groups of people based on outwardly different physical characteristics (e.g. skin color). Scientically, no commonalities or differencies have ever been proved to exist across different races. Trust me, people like you have tried really hard to establish scientific validity to the notion that people differ across race and each and every time they have been shot down.

Third - using the term political correctness over and over again and ascribing it to people who disagree with you is retarded (to use a non PC term). You may be a good guy (I have no idea), but your logic is flawed and people that disagree with you are neither PC or non-PC, they are just more wise than you.

First of all perhaps it is you who needs to "go back to school" or rather, get out of school and free think for yourself.

Slavery? It was perpetuated by black land owners in Africa who sold their brothers out for commodities from other lands. Also, 80% of all African slaves wound up in Brazil and that is why the overall complexion of the Brazillian nation differs widely. 16% made it to the Caribbean. Again, this is why their overall complexion varies widely. 4% of all African slaves wound up in America - yet - the world, the uneducated world, acts as if America was the perpetrator of slavery of Africans.

So, yeah, go back to school, or, read up on things with your own time and avoid tainted sermons meant to lead in the path of the person giving such sermons - which is tainted.

No, I haven't ever been shot down for knowing and speaking that heritages have like traits just as family members have like traits. You can't shoot down nature and absolute fact of nature. You just cannot no matter how much you wish to do so.

Political correctness? Yes, this is the root of the distain people have for such conversations. They listen and they listen and they listen and they forget to speak for themselves.

Again, I task you to find anything RACIST in what I have said. You cannot because it does not exist. I fully embrace my Italian heritage and even laugh at and mock the idiosyncrasies which are so prevalent in the Italian culture or even within my own family.

Those that cannot are the ones with the problem. Not me. Enjoy your faceful of sand as you shove your head as deep as you can.

...I meant to not reply anymore but to be called out in such a manner required I do so and continue to clarify my point of view. One that seems very lost on many. To me, and I'm sure some who read this, it's quite clear. To those who have refused to think for themselves....this is the work of a terrorist I assume. BAH to you guys.

Wake the hell up......


WAKE UP WHITE PEOPLE!

You're making yourself sound worse and worse with every post.

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11/2/2009  2:27 PM
You guys went from mocking a clown poster who got banned to having a heated discussion about people's ethnicities.

Real nice.

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11/2/2009  2:51 PM
BasketballJones wrote:

And this year's official Ross Perot "You People" award goes to....

Cosmic!

You're all greek to me.

lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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11/2/2009  2:52 PM
Man, even after GKF has been banned, he still causes inflammatory posts. The dude is a cancer.
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11/2/2009  2:52 PM
I watched "My Life in Ruins" last night. No joke.
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11/2/2009  2:53 PM
Those disturbed by my posts are close minded individuals who look to others on how to think. Try thinking for yourselves.

I have one last thing to say: If we are all the same, and to say different is racist and disturbing, why do the varied cultures of the earth have such varying cuisine. And if those of like heritage do not exhibit similar traits why do those who of like heritage, who live so far apart in today's dynamic world, still cook and enjoy the same heritage-base cuisine?

Think before you reply to that one, for, what you sensitive PC people are thinking, would mean we should all just eat McDonalds, and to do otherwise would be outrageous and racist.

Face it, people are different, and those from the same family and from the same heritage, or heck, even who grow up in the same neighborhood, are going to exhibit like traits.

To think otherwise is not intelligent thought.

Back to the crux of this: The fact remains that those of Greek decent are passionate and prideful people and if you engage them in debate they are likely to respond in an intense way. GKF does this. That is why although I dislike how he has responded to me in a nasty way at times I don't flat out hate the man.

But, hey, I will live in my world, you guys live in yours.

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11/2/2009  3:11 PM
Andrew wrote:I watched "My Life in Ruins" last night. No joke.

How was it?

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11/2/2009  3:19 PM
BasketballJones wrote:
Andrew wrote:I watched "My Life in Ruins" last night. No joke.

How was it?

Overly passionate.

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