JohnWallace44 wrote:Teams passing on Jennings when they have the option to draft Evans or Rubio is different than what Walsh did.

Walsh passed on Evans and Rubio?

That's a whole different kettle of fish.

You have a PG whose minutes you want to cut in Duhon and the rest of your team is all forwards and you have Nate and Lee in limbo... you might want to draft a PG or a SG... just maybe.

This is where Walsh is diametrically opposed to the way that I think, and this would be his defense. He drafted Hill to be the center here, and he would say we didn't have a center. I just don't really get taking an undersized center when there are oversized players at other positions of need on the board.

Obviously that's just me.

martin wrote:

JohnWallace44 wrote:

MS wrote:He whiffed on his pick again. I don't care how good Hill is going to be he isn't a difference making player. He is a background player that gets some hustle points. He is a dime a dozen. He takes two projects with ceilings that aren't that high.

Jennings destroys the nuggs for 32pts 9ass and Donnie best answer is he wasn't familiar with him. We are so ****ed as a franchise it's a joke. You can't watch these guys.

These guys are getting a pass right now. Ariza for the mid-level where was donnie on that, where was he on the nate/jeff deal, where was he on gordon/randolph/lopez, duhon is a joke, roberson was a joke, darko is a joke, and hill??? We should have just resigned Frye if we wanted a soft jump shooter from arizona.

You raelly have to question what he is doing. Douglas can play, but he isn't building a foundation.

+1

Amazing post. Donnie basically blamed Jennings for not going to the EuroBasket camp. Nice one... So our draft prep came down to one day?

Hill is a dime a dozen.

Jennings/Derozan/Holiday in my opinion are special types of players

when a young kid is a no-show to a big event, it should make a GM pause. in fact, like 9 teams paused.

yet walsh would've taken rubio who worked out for/against noone and had less of a body of work to go off of than jennings

JohnWallace44 wrote:TMS, I hear you. Hill/Gallo/Douglas could surprise me. Douglas has already shown that he is at least worthy of the pick that we used.

My issue is more with the overall strategy and that is a ship that has sailed. I don't have to wait to judge that. Taking a positionless player in Gallo, and drafting a PF to be your center in Hill... I just don't agree with that as a way to build your team.

If you're in the lottery, you need building block guys, and your building block guys had better be able to blow someone's doors off with something be it speed, strength, athleticism, size, fundamentals... hopefully more than one of those categories. Hill is not Amare no matter how you slice it. Everybody knows who I was high on and if they flunk out, feel free to throw it in my face.

Gallo sort of reminds me of Curry now in that the pro-Curry guys used to say, "well the guards have to do a better job of getting him the ball." Problem was that Curry never really did anything but sit there when he didn't really have good post position, and nobody but Crawford seemed to be able to get it to him.

Gallo is the same way now. The pro-Gallo guys are all saying, "build the offense around Gallo, get the ball to Gallo more," but the dude is just standing there most of the time.

Isiah had the right idea when he tried to make the front line Jeffries/Frye/Curry, but the players just weren't up to it. You have to do something to compete with Gasol/Bynum/Odom type front-lines or KG/Perkins/Wallace. If you're not doing that, then I don't think you can really say that you're trying to win a championship. Maybe Hill is part of that, but he looks to me like he can't jump and if he's a center then he's a negative in terms of size. I don't know man. I put too much energy into thinking about it.

i don't got any problems if u would have preferred we'd taken a different direction... Donnie hasn't really done exactly what i would have wanted either... i'm just waiting before i form a final judgement on Hill & Gallo, that's all... neither 1 of those guys were my #1 choice just like they weren't urs... i wanted to trade up to get Mayo last year & i wanted Derozan this year... i could lament the fact that we don't have a backcourt of Mayo & Derozan but what good does that do?

this summer is gonna be the final test for me in terms of what Donnie's plan brings to the table... if he put all his eggs into the big FA market this year & ends up w/2nd tier players like Joe Johnson & Carlos Boozer, then i'll be plenty pissed off about it just like i'm sure u & plenty other guys around here will... but if we end up w/a top tier player to build around & Gallo & Hill show themselves well this season & next, then i'll be the first to give the man props for sticking to his vision & not wavering from it... either way, right now is not the time for final judgements in my view.

martin wrote:

JohnWallace44 wrote:

McK1 wrote:yet walsh would've taken rubio who worked out for/against noone and had less of a body of work to go off of than jennings

Pretty good point there. I do think Rubio worked out at the EuroBasket camp in question, but I wonder what he would say if he was asked to compare the scouting process on both players.

you guys are not even trying to pay attention if you think Rubio has less of a body of work than Jennings.

per draft express: rubio's body of work

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Ricky-Rubio-1155/stats/

not extensive in the least bit.