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Paladin55
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10/29/2009  1:27 PM    LAST EDITED: 10/30/2009  11:14 AM
Somehow I get the feeling that if he scored 40 pts last night he would be criticized.

The guy has 29 games under his belt and is coming off of back surgery. He is also a young guy who has been talked up by his coach, so he might feel some pressure to perform, so maybe that is why he was a bit shaky at first.

By the way, he started looking smoother the first half, when we were still in the game, and it continued in the second half.

He had some big games last year and hit some clutch shots even when he had the back problem. I would like to see him do more driving to the basket for scores and foul shots, but you can't knock his 3 pt shooting yesterday. It was in line with how he shot last year, so I don't think it is an aberration.

A lot of guys looked shaky with their shots yesterday, including Chandler at times, but Gallinari's game has to be looked at in a positive light, IMO. He still has a way to go, but he looks like he belongs out there, and does a lot of things to help a team

Perhaps some folks are setting to high of a standard for a guy who is, in essence, a 21 year old physically underdeveloped rookie.

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10/29/2009  2:19 PM
oohah wrote:When Galinari did his thing yesterday for the most part the pressure was totally off. I don't think yesterday's game is a good indicator of much except that he can shoot very well when he is spotted up...He has to do it when the game means something and guys are really challenging him.

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10/29/2009  2:22 PM
Wade looked shakey at times. Just all shakn' up!!!!!

When they start coming out to gallo he will be able to go by them. It is said the kid can pass, so whey they come at him, and he goes past the defender on the paremter, he can pull up or create even more if a second defender comes at him.

He sent a message that you can't leave him open last nite.

I know he is not Jesus or anything but we got a kid that at 6-10 freakin lit it up from the arch! Not many in the league can do what he does.

As fans, we just go the hope.

Lets jump ahead, is there anyone on Cleveland that is Gallo? Donyall Marshall was a playoff star a few years back with lebron cuz lebron demands doubles and he was able to just light it up.

Im wishing and hoping like everyone else.

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10/29/2009  2:34 PM
I know he is not Jesus or anything but we got a kid that at 6-10 freakin lit it up from the arch! Not many in the league can do what he does.

Actually there are plenty. Let's start with Steve Novak and Matt Bonner.

I see that Galinari had a nice game Vs. Orlando. And? We need to see it consistently. I'm not going to get excited over 1 good game or depressed about 1 bad game. 10 in a row either way and I will start reacting.


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10/29/2009  2:50 PM
oohah wrote:
I know he is not Jesus or anything but we got a kid that at 6-10 freakin lit it up from the arch! Not many in the league can do what he does.

Actually there are plenty. Let's start with Steve Novak and Matt Bonner.

I see that Galinari had a nice game Vs. Orlando. And? We need to see it consistently. I'm not going to get excited over 1 good game or depressed about 1 bad game. 10 in a row either way and I will start reacting.


oohah

Ooh Ahh fans of a team tend to get excited when one of their young players hits 7 3 pointers in a game. It's kind of an exciting thing. Trust me the moment he goes 1-9 the fans will be ripping him apart so I wouldn't worry about the excitement at this point.

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10/29/2009  3:25 PM
1 thing i've noticed about Gallo's shooting... he's a damn good shooter.
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10/29/2009  3:32 PM
After shooting 44% from three, last season, as a very young rookie with a seriously bad back, I don't understand why anyone would doubt his ability to shoot.
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10/29/2009  3:36 PM
oohah wrote:
I know he is not Jesus or anything but we got a kid that at 6-10 freakin lit it up from the arch! Not many in the league can do what he does.

Actually there are plenty. Let's start with Steve Novak and Matt Bonner.

I see that Galinari had a nice game Vs. Orlando. And? We need to see it consistently. I'm not going to get excited over 1 good game or depressed about 1 bad game. 10 in a row either way and I will start reacting.


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and that is where it stops for those guys.. gallo has displayed he can put the ball on the floor, go by, or put the ball on the floor, step back and reset for the three.. novak and bonner are simple catch and shoot guys, once they break their shooting motion, the threat of them scoring goes down tremendously.... not the same for gallo....

So there are not plenty....

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10/29/2009  3:38 PM
The kid is KVH with a handle and lesser rebounding skills.

Happy?

The kid lit it up and I liked watching it and got excited. It was fun to watch during a terrible game for the knicks.

Im not ready to annoint him messiah like expectations but this is just in the face of Knick fans riding the bi-polar coaster of regret over the woulda-coulda-shouda's in the last two drafts.

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10/29/2009  3:40 PM    LAST EDITED: 10/29/2009  3:42 PM
tkf wrote:

and that is where it stops for those guys.. gallo has displayed he can put the ball on the floor, go by, or put the ball on the floor, step back and reset for the three.. novak and bonner are simple catch and shoot guys, once they break their shooting motion, the threat of them scoring goes down tremendously.... not the same for gallo....

So there are not plenty....

Galinari certainly has more potential than Bonner or Novak. He's made some good offensive plays. But right now I see a gunner, kind of like Al Harrington but with less athleticism and less inside play, but a more pure shot.

And TKF, there are a lot of tall players who can shoot from outside and put it on the floor. In fact Harrington is one of them! SO is Turkoglu. Stojakovic, Rashard Lewis and there are examples too, and there are other similar guys who are not quite as good as they are.

I think you may be overstating the ability Galinari has displayed to break down an defense just a tad....

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10/29/2009  3:41 PM
Nalod wrote:The kid is KVH with a handle and lesser rebounding skills.

Happy?

KVH had a much better handle.

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10/29/2009  3:49 PM
oohah wrote:
tkf wrote:

and that is where it stops for those guys.. gallo has displayed he can put the ball on the floor, go by, or put the ball on the floor, step back and reset for the three.. novak and bonner are simple catch and shoot guys, once they break their shooting motion, the threat of them scoring goes down tremendously.... not the same for gallo....

So there are not plenty....

Galinari certainly has more potential than Bonner or Novak. He's made some good offensive plays. But right now I see a gunner, kind of like Al Harrington but with less athleticism and less inside play, but a more pure shot.

And TKF, there are a lot of tall players who can shoot from outside and put it on the floor. In fact Harrington is one of them! SO is Turkoglu. Stojakovic, Rashard Lewis and there are examples too, and there are other similar guys who are not quite as good as they are.

I think you may be overstating the ability Galinari has displayed to break down an defense just a tad....

oohah


honestly other than lewis, guys like harrington and hedo are closer to 6'9 as gallo is closer to 6'11.. big difference there.. But look at who you are comparing him to.. guys like lewis.. I will take that.. LOL..

I don't know if I am overstating his ability to break down defenses. He takes what they give him. there was a play where they closed out on him, he drives and hits a wide open chandler who bricks a shot... again, that is just not common from 6'11 players...

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10/29/2009  3:49 PM
oohah wrote:
Nalod wrote:The kid is KVH with a handle and lesser rebounding skills.

Happy?

KVH had a much better handle.

oohah



no he didn't

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10/29/2009  3:55 PM
tkf wrote:
oohah wrote:
Nalod wrote:The kid is KVH with a handle and lesser rebounding skills.

Happy?

KVH had a much better handle.

oohah



no he didn't

Riiiiight. When I see Galinari fake out a man at the 3 point line, cross up another guy, spin and finish with a slam we can start comparing his handle to Van Horn's.

Dude, what is the point of me arguing with what you HOPE is true as opposed to what we have actually seen? You want Galinari to be everything we hope him to be. I get it. What we have actually seen is a big dude who can shoot and put it on the floor decently. He hasn't been shaking and breaking people up, cramming it in people's faces, nothing like that. Van Horn was doing that as a rookie.

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10/29/2009  10:02 PM
It will be interesting to read the hate if Gallinari, or Hill, for that matter, score 30 pts in a game. Better that Gallo score 5 or 6 and be under the radar than to have a good game and face the wrath of some folks around here.
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10/29/2009  10:21 PM
oohah wrote:I see that Galinari had a nice game Vs. Orlando. And? We need to see it consistently. I'm not going to get excited over 1 good game or depressed about 1 bad game. 10 in a row either way and I will start reacting.


k. so don't give credit for one good night because he didn't do it when it mattered. then i reference a game where he was clutch. then it's don't give him credit for doing it when it mattered because he did it only one time. here's another game where he contributed and it wasn't garbage time.

now it's no credit because he didn't do it all 82 games last year with a jacked up spine. no need to annoint him, but no need to tear him down either. comparing him to garbage-ass stiffs is weak. as a knicks fan, i got hope for the dude.

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10/29/2009  11:15 PM
eViL wrote:
oohah wrote:I see that Galinari had a nice game Vs. Orlando. And? We need to see it consistently. I'm not going to get excited over 1 good game or depressed about 1 bad game. 10 in a row either way and I will start reacting.


k. so don't give credit for one good night because he didn't do it when it mattered. then i reference a game where he was clutch. then it's don't give him credit for doing it when it mattered because he did it only one time. here's another game where he contributed and it wasn't garbage time.


now it's no credit because he didn't do it all 82 games last year with a jacked up spine. no need to annoint him, but no need to tear him down either. comparing him to garbage-ass stiffs is weak. as a knicks fan, i got hope for the dude.

The difference here is I have a balanced outlook and you are typing with your hope-hands acting like he has proven something other than he is a good shooter. The fact is he hasn't demonstrated anything except that he is a gifted shooter. There I have given him credit for that does that make you happy? NOw you don't have to make up anymore statements for me.

It's not about "credit" it is about a realistic assessment of what we have seen from him. Don't take it so personal.

I guess I could youtube some games where he didn't play so well and try to go tit-for-tat but it doesn't matter. I'm going to wait and see. In the meantime, you go ahead and feel free to make him into a superstar today and if it turns out that he isn't, you'll probably tear him down to the same degree that you are putting him on an undeserved pedestal now.

Not everything is so extreme and/or personal Evil. Breeeeeathe in...now exhale.

P.S. Hitting a ****load of buckets when a game is over is not a "good night". According to this board, at least not when Nate Robinson does it, so I will judge Galinari the same way. Now breeeeathe in...and exhaaaale.

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10/30/2009  12:50 AM
oohah wrote:
tkf wrote:
oohah wrote:
Nalod wrote:The kid is KVH with a handle and lesser rebounding skills.

Happy?

KVH had a much better handle.

oohah



no he didn't

Riiiiight. When I see Galinari fake out a man at the 3 point line, cross up another guy, spin and finish with a slam we can start comparing his handle to Van Horn's.

Dude, what is the point of me arguing with what you HOPE is true as opposed to what we have actually seen? You want Galinari to be everything we hope him to be. I get it. What we have actually seen is a big dude who can shoot and put it on the floor decently. He hasn't been shaking and breaking people up, cramming it in people's faces, nothing like that. Van Horn was doing that as a rookie.

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I have seen shaq take a ball coast to coast and dunk on someone. doesn't mean I think his handle is better than dirks.... and what does craming it in people faces have to do with having a good handle? really man, stay on track... gallo has a better handle than KVH.. just watch, he goes right and goes left without any problems at all. KVH is the classic underachiver, I don't ever think anyone would confuse KVH with having a "handle".. He could put the ball on the floor and get some places, but that was about it...

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10/30/2009  6:46 AM
Let's say Gallo never improves his game and for the rest of his career he stays a dead eye outside shooter. As a coach I ask, what is wrong with that?
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10/30/2009  10:11 AM
oohah wrote:
tkf wrote:
oohah wrote:
Nalod wrote:The kid is KVH with a handle and lesser rebounding skills.

Happy?

KVH had a much better handle.

oohah



no he didn't

Riiiiight. When I see Galinari fake out a man at the 3 point line, cross up another guy, spin and finish with a slam we can start comparing his handle to Van Horn's.

Dude, what is the point of me arguing with what you HOPE is true as opposed to what we have actually seen? You want Galinari to be everything we hope him to be. I get it. What we have actually seen is a big dude who can shoot and put it on the floor decently. He hasn't been shaking and breaking people up, cramming it in people's faces, nothing like that. Van Horn was doing that as a rookie.

oohah

Gallinari is a herky jerky ball handler, but he's very effective. I just simply don't think he realizes his potential. Van Horn had ball handling skills too, and that's why I actually said from the beginning Gallo might be similar to a cross between Allan Houston and Van Horn (When he's playing good) at his best, which is a good thing. With that said, I hardly remember Van Horn doing many cross moves and slamming over guys. Maybe on rare occasion, but he was mainly a shooter. So to say Gallo is not a better ball handler than KVH is premature. I think he's shown he could be better, but we'll have to wait and see, b/c I don't think Gallo knows it.

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