JrZyHuStLa wrote:If you're talking about 2 years down the road then this discussion is irrelevant.

I thought you knew that I was talking about today, as I mentioned.

Either way though, If Bosh and Melo can't help us today, what makes you think they'd be helping in 2 years ?

what is the point in talking about them today? i'm talking about a hypothetical scenario we may end up with if we should lose out on Lebron & Wade... i don't think ending up with Bosh this offseason & Melo next offseason would be a failure at all on Donnie Walsh's part... those 2 guys are elite players at their respective positions and just coming into their primes... why would anyone object to that, i don't get it.

TMS wrote:

JrZyHuStLa wrote:If you're talking about 2 years down the road then this discussion is irrelevant.

I thought you knew that I was talking about today, as I mentioned.

Either way though, If Bosh and Melo can't help us today, what makes you think they'd be helping in 2 years ?

what is the point in talking about them today? i'm talking about a hypothetical scenario we may end up with if we should lose out on Lebron & Wade... i don't think ending up with Bosh this offseason & Melo next offseason would be a failure at all on Donnie Walsh's part... those 2 guys are elite players at their respective positions and just coming into their primes... why would anyone object to that, i don't get it.

Sure, it makes the Knicks fun to watch again. It doesn't make them a contender imo, as long as Kobe, Gasol, Lebron, KG, etc are doing their thing.

JrZyHuStLa wrote:

TMS wrote:

JrZyHuStLa wrote:If you're talking about 2 years down the road then this discussion is irrelevant.

I thought you knew that I was talking about today, as I mentioned.

Either way though, If Bosh and Melo can't help us today, what makes you think they'd be helping in 2 years ?

what is the point in talking about them today? i'm talking about a hypothetical scenario we may end up with if we should lose out on Lebron & Wade... i don't think ending up with Bosh this offseason & Melo next offseason would be a failure at all on Donnie Walsh's part... those 2 guys are elite players at their respective positions and just coming into their primes... why would anyone object to that, i don't get it.

Sure, it makes the Knicks fun to watch again. It doesn't make them a contender imo, as long as Kobe, Gasol, Lebron, KG, etc are doing their thing.

Hey Detroit beat LA with Kobe and Shaq in their prime

PresIke wrote:i'm sorry did someone say we'd have no shot with a combo of bosh and melo?

wow.

we'd be a top team for years.

But does it bring a championship?

TMS wrote:

JrZyHuStLa wrote:

PresIke wrote:i'm sorry did someone say we'd have no shot with a combo of bosh and melo?

wow.

we'd be a top team for years.

But does it bring a championship?

no one can tell u that for sure... that's why u play the games... did u know for certain that DET would win a championship w/their roster before they did? did u know for sure that BOS would win one too? i mean could u guarantee it to yourself looking at their roster on paper before u saw them play & how well they gelled together that year? all u can do is put together the best talent u can get ur hands on & then let the coaches take over & hopefully the team gels & forms a good chemistry.

Of course I can't tell what the future holds, that's why I hypothetically said If we had Bosh and Melo today, how would be our chances be. I didn't say we'd be a dismal team, but I did say we still wouldn't be a championship caliber team. Having those guys on the Knick puts us in that second tier with Cleveland and Denver, not the first with LA. And yes, Detroit beat the odds when they beat LA a few years ago, but more often than not you won't see that happen too often.

JrZyHuStLa wrote:If the Knicks TODAY had Bosh and Melo we're still behind LAL, SA, ORL, BOS, and maybe CLE. Role players would have to be key for us.

This doesn't fit the bill in creating a contender.

but we'd have some really nice pieces in place to build around, and Bosh and Carmelo are young enough that we'd have many years to do it in. It's not like we'd have only a 2 or 3 year window.

JrZyHuStLa wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

JrZyHuStLa wrote:If the Knicks TODAY had Bosh and Melo we're still behind LAL, SA, ORL, BOS, and maybe CLE. Role players would have to be key for us.

This doesn't fit the bill in creating a contender.

but we'd have some really nice pieces in place to build around, and Bosh and Carmelo are young enough that we'd have many years to do it in. It's not like we'd have only a 2 or 3 year window.

I agree with all of you guys that are saying we'd be a good team, there's no doubt about that.

Do you think if you have about eight seasons of Bosh and Carmelo in their primes, that's not enough time to build a championship level team around them?

JohnWallace44 wrote:You know what would really make this organization implode? Signing Bosh to a MaxFA deal, and then winning 30 games the next season.

Think that's impossible? Look at Toronto's record lately with better surrounding parts.

Bingo. Now lets say the Raptors sign Carmelo Anthony tomorrow. All of a sudden they're a championship caliber team that can beat LA, BOS, SA, and ORL ?