Posted by nixluva:

Posted by McK1:

Posted by nixluva:

I really feel good about the teams young players getting a chance to shine this year. I don't think they're gonna disappoint us. I think Darko was a smart pickup cuz this is the right kind of system for him to play in. They've been trying to make him into an American style C and he's not.

Having 3 real bigs this year is gonna help a lot. We don't have to force Lee to play against big C's all year.

you do know Mike D'Antoni is the coach right. David Lee will play 40 minutes and guard the 5 spot

Not with Darko on the team. MDA is no fool. He's got a guy that has true center size, but can also pass and shoot. He's gonna play. Lee will see fewer minutes at the C spot. People really have an off base view of Darko's talent level. He's not as bad as people tend to think. I think he'll have a resurgence on this team.

People know exactly who Darko is. He is a slower foot better shot blocking Kwame Brown. What you seem not to have is a grounded view of is MDA's coaching style. MDA doesn't care about getting stops. Defense to D'Antoni is exploiting the probability of Lee and the ball beating downcourt the man guarding him off a make or miss.



[Edited by - McK1 on 09-08-2009 6:24 PM]

Posted by McK1:

Posted by nixluva:

Posted by McK1:

Posted by nixluva:

I really feel good about the teams young players getting a chance to shine this year. I don't think they're gonna disappoint us. I think Darko was a smart pickup cuz this is the right kind of system for him to play in. They've been trying to make him into an American style C and he's not.

Having 3 real bigs this year is gonna help a lot. We don't have to force Lee to play against big C's all year.

you do know Mike D'Antoni is the coach right. David Lee will play 40 minutes and guard the 5 spot

Not with Darko on the team. MDA is no fool. He's got a guy that has true center size, but can also pass and shoot. He's gonna play. Lee will see fewer minutes at the C spot. People really have an off base view of Darko's talent level. He's not as bad as people tend to think. I think he'll have a resurgence on this team.

People know exactly who Darko is. He is a slower foot better shot blocking Kwame Brown. What you seem not to have is a grounded view of is MDA's coaching style. MDA doesn't care about getting stops. Defense to D'Antoni is exploiting the probability of Lee and the ball beating downcourt the man guarding him off a make or miss.

I know full well what MDA likes to do and that doesn't preclude the inclusion of athletic 7'ers. Darko may not be the fastest center in the NBA, but he can move very well. Well enough to run the floor for MDA. MDA will like the idea of a Center than can also step out and pop a J.

Here's how slow Darko is:

Never said he couldn't move I said he was a slower better shot blocking version of Kwame Brown. He has a role as 4th big however DLee and Harrington will log the majority of 4/5 minutes and Jeffries will be the first big off the bench.

since this thread is about Amare, here is some of that SMH max contract franchise carrying Post D being played by Stat against one Kwame Brown:



Probably why the coaches thought they saw Stat in Hill, JH has that same inertia like quality defending.

Love Stats talent but this is NY with a proud prior history of guys giving a sh1t about toughness in the paint so Pass

The lack of D by Amare is exactly why I wouldn't overpay to get him here. You can build a winning team without the flashy dunks of an Amare. I'm willing to take a chance at developing Darko as a Euro style C that can block shots and defend the post. See there's so much looking for guys outside of the team to come in and rescue us, that we don't realize that we have some good role players already here.

We don't need Amare or even Bosh. Those types of players haven't proven to be the kind that really win championships. In theory I'd prefer a guy that can create shots on his own and makes his teammates better ie Lebron or Wade. I'd love to get a guy like Brandon Roy. I think the real difference makers are the guys that can handle the rock and create for themselves and others in crunchtime, but guys with SG/SF size, not small players. The Jordan, Kobe, Lebron, Melo and Wade types. I'd personally like to target Wade and Melo over the next two Summers.

Posted by TMS:

Lebron, Melo and Roy havent proven themselves to be title winning players either. We'd be lucky as hell to get any player like Amare, Bosh, Lebron, Roy, Melo or any other stars here in NY.

The difference I see between Amare and Bosh and the SG/SF's is that they tend to be good sidekicks to a stud SG/SF but being only really good but not dominant bigs they just don't mean as much in the W/L column. Amare and Bosh types don't carry teams or lift teams, they just put up stats. I wasn't looking at winning it all as proof of their value. Neither Amare nor Bosh seem to be players that have real impact. We've seen Lebron and Wade carry lesser teams to much better records. I believe Melo could help tho not to the same degree.

Amare and Bosh are all flash and little impact IMO. People bash Zbo but those two aren't much better IMO.