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martin
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7/23/2009  1:18 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by martin:
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Was there a criminal investigation when the Pacman Jones accusations first broke? ESPN jumped on that story quicker than Marv on a fruity-drink.

hey, let's stick on topic. This is the second time you answered my question with a question.

No there was no investigation 5 days ago when the story broke, the other outlets were reporting accusations. My point with the previous post that you said is responding to a question with a question is that ESPN has reported accusations a trillion times over but this time chose not to because they are "protecting" one of their own.

you know what? I would protect my own too! What do you expect them to do? Be the first to report on Erin Andrews and perpetuate this dumbass thing?

So what if ESPN didn't report about an alleged accusation? Who cares? Maybe they learned their lesson from the Pacman thing and now wait to confirm unsubstantiated allegations. That's a good thing, no?
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7/23/2009  1:25 PM
Posted by martin:
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by martin:
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by martin:
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by martin:
Posted by nyk4ever:

Hopefully as a result, the POST releases a more crystal-clear video

Posted by Rookie:

I think that's terrible to invade someone's privacy for financial gain.....so, is someone gonna post the pictures?

In light of this thread topic, I find the joking to be a tad on the wrong side of decency.

Are ya serious Martin? Look at the main forum of this website, theres threads voting which woman (who all happen to be wearing next to nothing) is hotter than the other in a tournament style event. Not saying I don't like it, but let's be real here.

you don't see a big difference between between posting pics of a woman whose privacy was obviously illegally violated and the alba threads?

I'm sure some of the women that frequent this site might find the whole entire main forum littered with vote-off's of chicks wearing next to nothing a bit distasteful. As I've said, I'm totally for it, I enjoy it, but if we want to play the "distasteful" game, then I think they are one of the same.

you didn't answer my question.

Is there a difference between the alba threads and posting illegal pics of someone who was privacy was violated?

Of course there's a difference, we all know that.

You claimed my comment was in poor taste. All I'm saying is that for all the crap that people say on this site, for you to say that to me over wanting to see a hot chick naked, when there are 17 threads on the main page voting for who the hottest chick is, I think is a bit of a contradiction.

there is a big difference between people who want to expose themselves through the media on their own terms and those who do not and have who have also been illegall taken advantage of.

Previous to this incident I am sure that Erin Andrews would have LOVED to been on the cover of People magazine and Seventeen or whatnot through her own will, etc.

Keep on joking about wanting to see the nekkid Erin Andrews pics and you are almost indirectly supporting or a perpetuating a criminal violation of her privacy.

This is a big difference than what is going on in the alba threads.

Also, mostly all I had done was say that it was a tad on the not decent side of things.

Whatever man, I'll keep those comments to myself from now on then.
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7/23/2009  1:47 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by martin:
Posted by nyk4ever:

Hopefully as a result, the POST releases a more crystal-clear video

Posted by Rookie:

I think that's terrible to invade someone's privacy for financial gain.....so, is someone gonna post the pictures?

In light of this thread topic, I find the joking to be a tad on the wrong side of decency.

Are ya serious Martin? Look at the main forum of this website, theres threads voting which woman (who all happen to be wearing next to nothing) is hotter than the other in a tournament style event. Not saying I don't like it, but let's be real here.

Off topic, a bit, but when I read the above line, the first thing that came into my mind was a famous scene from the movie, Casablanca, starring Bogart, Claude Rains, and Bergman, where Renault, following orders, has to come up with a quick reason to close down the club:


Rick: How can you close me up? On what grounds?

Captain Renault: I'm shocked, shocked to find that gambling is going on in here!
[a croupier hands Renault a pile of money]

Croupier: Your winnings, sir.

Captain Renault: Oh, thank you very much.

Captain Renault: Everybody out at once!
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7/23/2009  1:52 PM
Posted by martin:
Posted by TMS:

maybe if we consolidated all the Alba threads to a central Bukkake forum it would cut down on some of the clutter... just a thought.

Andrew and I have talked about this some and we welcome feedback.

Part of the reason that as soon as voting is over I move the threads to OT. Otherwise, we haven't had any emails or posts otherwise protesting, except from BRIGGS complaining that the main forum was turning into Maxim (but I don't read every thread and every post).

Is Briggs anti-pu$$y?
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7/23/2009  2:29 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:

Whatever man, I'll keep those comments to myself from now on then.

Tell you what man, go ask your mother, sister, girl-friend how violated they would feel if some 49-year-old perv took pics of them while they were in the bathroom naked and then had exposed those pictures to everyone. Then ask them if they mind you making jokes about it to your Internet buddies. Let us know how they react.
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7/23/2009  2:46 PM
Posted by martin:
Posted by nyk4ever:

Whatever man, I'll keep those comments to myself from now on then.

Tell you what man, go ask your mother, sister, girl-friend how violated they would feel if some 49-year-old perv took pics of them while they were in the bathroom naked and then had exposed those pictures to everyone. Then ask them if they mind you making jokes about it to your Internet buddies. Let us know how they react.

I just find it surprising with all the comments that are made on this forum and that have been made over the years, some that are much worse than what I said, that you choose this to speak up on.

Like I said though, I'll keep my comments on subjects such as this to myself.
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7/23/2009  2:53 PM
Posted by martin:
Posted by nyk4ever:

Whatever man, I'll keep those comments to myself from now on then.

Tell you what man, go ask your mother, sister, girl-friend how violated they would feel if some 49-year-old perv took pics of them while they were in the bathroom naked and then had exposed those pictures to everyone. Then ask them if they mind you making jokes about it to your Internet buddies. Let us know how they react.

Man, is this what our civilization evolved into? Getting all bent out of shape because people have seen your tits? Whats the big deal? I am not saying that we should legalize peeping, but seriously is it that big of a deal?
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7/23/2009  2:54 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by martin:
Posted by nyk4ever:

Whatever man, I'll keep those comments to myself from now on then.

Tell you what man, go ask your mother, sister, girl-friend how violated they would feel if some 49-year-old perv took pics of them while they were in the bathroom naked and then had exposed those pictures to everyone. Then ask them if they mind you making jokes about it to your Internet buddies. Let us know how they react.

I just find it surprising with all the comments that are made on this forum and that have been made over the years, some that are much worse than what I said, that you choose this to speak up on.

Like I said though, I'll keep my comments on subjects such as this to myself.

Martin is right tho, talking and b'sing amongst guys and posting pictures that are already available for public consumption is not in the same universe of some peep freak snapping pictures of a chic when she thinks she is in the saftey of private confines. Not even close.

ESPN is largely full of shyt, but in this case I cant fault them at all.
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7/23/2009  2:57 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by martin:
Posted by nyk4ever:

Whatever man, I'll keep those comments to myself from now on then.

Tell you what man, go ask your mother, sister, girl-friend how violated they would feel if some 49-year-old perv took pics of them while they were in the bathroom naked and then had exposed those pictures to everyone. Then ask them if they mind you making jokes about it to your Internet buddies. Let us know how they react.

I just find it surprising with all the comments that are made on this forum and that have been made over the years, some that are much worse than what I said, that you choose this to speak up on.

Like I said though, I'll keep my comments on subjects such as this to myself.

don't find it surprising. I don't have time to read all threads and/or all posts. Lots and lots of grey areas for comments and/or jokes.

A lot of what we post and reply to is in context of the thread and topic. You won't find me joking too much in a Iraq or political or racially over-toned discussion. In this thread, all I said was: "In light of this thread topic, I find the joking to be a tad on the wrong side of decency." Because I am a mod I can't also have an opinion?
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7/23/2009  2:57 PM
Posted by ramtour420:
Posted by martin:
Posted by nyk4ever:

Whatever man, I'll keep those comments to myself from now on then.

Tell you what man, go ask your mother, sister, girl-friend how violated they would feel if some 49-year-old perv took pics of them while they were in the bathroom naked and then had exposed those pictures to everyone. Then ask them if they mind you making jokes about it to your Internet buddies. Let us know how they react.

Man, is this what our civilization evolved into? Getting all bent out of shape because people have seen your tits? Whats the big deal? I am not saying that we should legalize peeping, but seriously is it that big of a deal?

Thats an interesting way of looking at it, I guess. You dont feel for someone that had their privacy violated? Its not just somebody seeing her tits, but some nasty ass fool taking pictures of her while she is in private, without her knowing. Thats creepy, foul, and illegal.

Its not like she posed for some sleezebag and now she has second thoughts, like a lot of hoes do.
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7/23/2009  2:58 PM
Posted by ramtour420:
Posted by martin:
Posted by nyk4ever:

Whatever man, I'll keep those comments to myself from now on then.

Tell you what man, go ask your mother, sister, girl-friend how violated they would feel if some 49-year-old perv took pics of them while they were in the bathroom naked and then had exposed those pictures to everyone. Then ask them if they mind you making jokes about it to your Internet buddies. Let us know how they react.

Man, is this what our civilization evolved into? Getting all bent out of shape because people have seen your tits? Whats the big deal? I am not saying that we should legalize peeping, but seriously is it that big of a deal?

it's illegal, so yes it's a big deal.
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7/23/2009  2:58 PM
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Martin is right tho, talking and b'sing amongst guys and posting pictures that are already available for public consumption is not in the same universe of some peep freak snapping pictures of a chic when she thinks she is in the saftey of private confines. Not even close.

ESPN is largely full of shyt, but in this case I cant fault them at all.

Not just available, but specifically meant for public consumption

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7/23/2009  3:17 PM
nyk4ever, this is a follow-up that may not have to do with anything:

- when the Erin Andrews news first hit this site and the main forum, I immediately moved the thread to OT and made note of it: http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=31886
- when someone else posted another thread which was only a link to direct pics/videos of Andrews in the main forum, instead of just moving the thread or locking it up, I deleted it without comment.
- when someone posts a pic that I think is above PG-13 in the alba threads, if I have time I remove just that one pic or I just delete the entire post (I don't read them all so we miss some).
- when a pic is posted that is of the variety of NSFW, I try to go in and either put in "NSFW" or change it from pic to link. don't catch them all.

and on and on. Like that.

Miss some, catch some, piss off some.
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7/23/2009  3:25 PM
In nyk4ever's defense. There is a certain amount irreverent humor on this board and, as well all know, that irreverence makes this a fun place to be. I can see how the line is difficult to find here. I doubt he intended to cross that line.
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7/23/2009  3:28 PM
^ oh yes, very much agreed.
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7/23/2009  3:42 PM
lol. I'm not mad, I was just a bit confused. Martin, you and your brother do a magnificent job moderating the site, I understand you are not going to catch every comment and whatnot. I understand and agree where you are coming from and I am just going to leave it at that in regards to this.
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7/23/2009  4:11 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:

lol. I'm not mad, I was just a bit confused. Martin, you and your brother do a magnificent job moderating the site, I understand you are not going to catch every comment and whatnot. I understand and agree where you are coming from and I am just going to leave it at that in regards to this.

Translation: "Please don't bip my post count."
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7/23/2009  4:16 PM
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Posted by nyk4ever:

lol. I'm not mad, I was just a bit confused. Martin, you and your brother do a magnificent job moderating the site, I understand you are not going to catch every comment and whatnot. I understand and agree where you are coming from and I am just going to leave it at that in regards to this.

Translation: "Please don't bip my post count."

LOL. I'd have to start working on the ignore button and get it out faster than Bip if that was the case.
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7/23/2009  5:03 PM
Posted by BasketballJones:
Posted by nyk4ever:

lol. I'm not mad, I was just a bit confused. Martin, you and your brother do a magnificent job moderating the site, I understand you are not going to catch every comment and whatnot. I understand and agree where you are coming from and I am just going to leave it at that in regards to this.

Translation: "Please don't bip my post count."

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7/23/2009  5:25 PM
I think its a big deal what happened. I dont know much about her, as I dont really watch TV. We do live in an age of people over exposing themselves and over exploiting themselves. It seems to be she is working the clean nice girl image? If thats the case she has every right to be furious and go after these guys. Its a direct attack on something she is working hard to not be a part of (sleazy image) no?

I mean it it was Lindsy Lohan who cares? She walks out of the house in clothes with all her junk pourin out.

Seems to me this Erin girl worked hard to have a nice clean image so this is pretty low.
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