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What the Buck(s) gonna do with Sessions???
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fishmike
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7/20/2009  8:03 AM
Posted by BRIGGS:
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I hope we can make this happen. We may have to give up something of value.

Skiles isn't the GM, and I would expect the GM to match anything the knicks would put up.

The most sense for the Bucks, is to save some money. An expiring deal with a useful player makes sense.

Sessions seems to have significant upside. I wouldn't want to be the GM that let go of him for Kurt Thomas, Salim Stoudemire, and Bruce Bowen.

I think Id be willing to give up Lee or do a money deal with Mobleys contract.

With young players like this I like to look at maximum output of a single game stat to show me the capability of the player at 22 -23 years old

Highest scoring total--44
Highest rebound total--10
highest assist total 24
Highest steal # 4
Highest TO game 5
Most FT attempted 21
Most FT made 18
He obviously is not a 3 point shooter but that is something that can improve with time---that is true with many NBA players.
His assist to TO ratio is fantastic--he doesnt turn the ball over.

These numbers are off the charts. Milwaukee is a conservative team. I think Sessions has all the qualities to be a star here right away. I would be willing to give up a very fair price and maybe a tad more to get him. If they dont want Lee Id be willing to do a future 1 and 3mm in cash. Or we could help them by trading Mobley for Kurt Thomas Bowen and Elson--saving them 7.5mm--I think we have what it takes to acquire him for a few reasons. i think it's a tough situation with jennings and Sessions together and Meeks showed that maybe they have another nice G on the cheap for a very money conscious team. They could use a F they really could use Lee.
Briggs...
Nate as
45 points
8 3 pointers made
rebounds 10 (3 times)
assists 15
steals 5 (3 times)

Last year you the Knicks should run Nate out at PG and see what he looks like over a 10-15 game stretch. Do you still feel that way?

go read what Buck fans say about Sessions. Some thoughts you hear over and over again:
He plays zero D and Duhon is better there

He was the Bucks most improved player and has good upside

He cant sit a barn with his jumper and if others arent knocking down the Js he sets up he's not adding much

Bucks probably woundlt match a full MLE deal which would be considered overpaying by many

He will really fill out the statsheet in MDAs offense
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7/20/2009  8:45 AM
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wow. pushing it on a 1-on-4 instead of pulling out.

that doesnt sound like safe sex to me marv....
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7/20/2009  9:26 AM
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by EnySpree:

Knicks just need a legit point guard....Sessions will help me sleep better at night

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Duhons a butterface kinda guy, eh?

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7/20/2009  10:14 AM
Posted by BRIGGS:

I think it would be a coup for the Knicks to get Sessions. This is the kind of acquisition that I know Knick fans have been looking for. The guy is 23 and is good at every facet of the game except long range shooting. IMHO he has star type qualities. He's big strong and smart. I was shaking my head a little at Kidd and Hill but Sessions makes a TON of sense and would make the offseason palatable. If you are talking about building a big three--I think Sessions can be one of those guys and if you can pull that off you have done a great job.


Agree 100%.

With both Kidd and Hill I was saying -- ok I see what the Knicks are thinking bringing in the vet leadership & potentially some guys to help convince a free agent to join but paramount in my head was aren't these 2 guys WAY PAST THEIR PRIME?

With Sessions -- you don't get the NAME BRAND pyschological boost but you easily get the best long term player.

Biggest upside is that he is a PURE POINT, with size and as you mentioned in a separate post he has had some HUGE GAMES for a young player (any player for that matter).
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7/20/2009  10:54 AM
Sessions isn't a speed demon nor does he have a killer handle. He's tall and does the basics well. Its like signing Chris Childs.

3 yr deal with team options on the 2nd and 3rd year.
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7/20/2009  11:35 AM
Posted by LivingLegend:
Posted by BRIGGS:

I think it would be a coup for the Knicks to get Sessions. This is the kind of acquisition that I know Knick fans have been looking for. The guy is 23 and is good at every facet of the game except long range shooting. IMHO he has star type qualities. He's big strong and smart. I was shaking my head a little at Kidd and Hill but Sessions makes a TON of sense and would make the offseason palatable. If you are talking about building a big three--I think Sessions can be one of those guys and if you can pull that off you have done a great job.

Agree 100%.

With both Kidd and Hill I was saying -- ok I see what the Knicks are thinking bringing in the vet leadership & potentially some guys to help convince a free agent to join but paramount in my head was aren't these 2 guys WAY PAST THEIR PRIME?

With Sessions -- you don't get the NAME BRAND pyschological boost but you easily get the best long term player.

Biggest upside is that he is a PURE POINT, with size and as you mentioned in a separate post he has had some HUGE GAMES for a young player (any player for that matter).

He's had huge statistical outbursts... not sure about huge games

[Edited by - supremecommander on 07-20-2009 11:35 AM]
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7/20/2009  11:45 AM
Posted by McK1:

Sessions isn't a speed demon nor does he have a killer handle. He's tall and does the basics well. Its like signing Chris Childs.

3 yr deal with team options on the 2nd and 3rd year.
maybe Childs on offense, but not on defense where Chris was a pretty good on the ball defender. I think that contract is about right. The full MLE for a guy with one good half to show for his body of work is an awful lot.
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7/20/2009  11:49 AM
Posted by fishmike:
Posted by McK1:

Sessions isn't a speed demon nor does he have a killer handle. He's tall and does the basics well. Its like signing Chris Childs.

3 yr deal with team options on the 2nd and 3rd year.
maybe Childs on offense, but not on defense where Chris was a pretty good on the ball defender. I think that contract is about right. The full MLE for a guy with one good half to show for his body of work is an awful lot.

not sure if this was mentioned in this thread or another... Sessions' AAU or something coach was MDA's older brother, so there is a connection.
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7/20/2009  12:12 PM
The comp to Childs is way off.

Offensively, Sessions is a + athlete that can get to the rim & create for others (and is inclined to do that) whereas Childs had a fairly low skill level w/ regard to running a team offensively.

Defensively, Sessions is a decent, rangy defender. Fairly average. Childs, on the other hand, was a feisty, physical pest of a defender.

This is like comparing Danilo Gallinari to Charles Oakley...it just makes no sense.
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7/20/2009  12:30 PM
yea, dan dantoni, who happens to be a knicks assistant coach.




fishmike, i like the comparison you made with nate and his per game averages. also keep in mind sessions is half a foot taller than nate, and given his track record with the d'antoni's and from what i've read about him, probably more adept at listening to the coach's and what not.

why not make a move for him, if the bucks match, so be it.
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7/20/2009  12:49 PM
Knicks apparently will ink Sessions to the MLE.
http://twitter.com/GeryWoelfel/statuses/2731400056

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7/20/2009  1:00 PM
Not really sure who this dude is, but on a side note, looks like Nash is signing an extension in Phoenix, so it would make sense to get the PG situation under wraps.
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7/20/2009  1:46 PM
Posted by EnySpree:

I just wanna add that they have Meeks, Charlie Bell, and Salim Stoudamire along with Jennings and Ridinour...

they also wouldn't need a sign and trade to pick up a forward cuz they have alexander, elson, Amir johnson, malik allen, moute, and kurt thomas....

The Bucks are kinda set...they don't need to pay for Sessions to stick around...they have cheaper replacements...I mean if they were to pay Sessions the full mid-level, they would make Sessions #3 highest salary on the team under Redd and Bogut. Makes no sense especially with the names i mentioned above.

basketball gods....cut us a break please!!!


So the BUCKS are just going to let him walk and get nothing back?
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7/20/2009  1:48 PM
Posted by Vmart:
Posted by djsunyc:

so sessions is knicks plan C after kidd + hill?

sessions should've been the #1 target and forced the bucks hand right away.

You mean plan F. After Rubio, Kidd, Hill, Miller and now Sessions.

Ahh, now i know my ABDs


[Edited by - kam77 on 07-20-2009 1:53 PM]
lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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7/20/2009  2:32 PM
"Walk and get nothing back"

....they let Charlie V go didn't they??? Sessions is a little differnt cuz the Bucks straight up didn't like Charlie V.

Knicks have to try...I'm sure they are calling the Bucks offering some things. Knicks need a team to cut the Knicks a break. Seems like every team is trying their best to make sure they don't help the Knicks make their comeback

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7/20/2009  2:35 PM
Posted by EnySpree:

"Walk and get nothing back"

....they let Charlie V go didn't they??? Sessions is a little differnt cuz the Bucks straight up didn't like Charlie V.

Knicks have to try...I'm sure they are calling the Bucks offering some things. Knicks need a team to cut the Knicks a break. Seems like every team is trying their best to make sure they don't help the Knicks make their comeback

Yeah... to want to get something back, the Bucks would have to want to take on salary. I'm assuming hey don't want to pay because the gave away RJ and let CV walk
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7/20/2009  4:27 PM
Been a big Sessions fan since 2 seasons ago when he stepped in for Ridnour and killed it. Hoping we can land him.
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7/21/2009  8:28 AM
http://www.nypost.com/php/pfriendly/print.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nypost.com%2Fseven%2F07212009%2Fsports%2Fknicks%2Fknicks_prepare_offer_for_bucks_point_gua_180422.htm
KNICKS PREPARE OFFER FOR BUCKS POINT GUARD

By MARC BERMAN

July 21, 2009 --

With Steve Nash out of the picture for 2010 after he agreed to a two-year contract extension with the Suns, Knicks president Donnie Walsh is again zeroing in on young Bucks point guard Ramon Sessions. Walsh is on the verge of making Sessions a long-term, mid-level offer for roughly $26 million, the player's agent told The Post yesterday.

Walsh met with veteran free agent point guard Andre Miller yesterday at the team's Westchester facility, but the Knicks look at the 33-year-old Miller as a one-year rental, making him a longshot option.

On the other hand, Sessions, 23, now is being regarded by the Knicks as a point-guard-of-the-future type.

The Knicks became reluctant to get serious about Sessions earlier this month. They felt the Bucks would match a mid-level offer and didn't want to be tied up waiting on Milwaukee.

Now they think the Bucks will pass because of their comfort level with first-round draft pick Brandon Jennings, who is the centerpiece of the team's season-ticket marketing campaign on their Web site.

Agent Chubby Wells said Sessions is deciding between three teams, including the Knicks and the Clippers, who may be able to offer more than $5.8 million by working out a sign-and-trade with Milwaukee and using a trade exception.

The Bucks would have seven days to match a Knicks offer sheet.

Wells said the Knicks appeared agreeable to giving Sessions four years at the mid-level, which would total about $26.5 million. Wells said he hoped to sign an offer sheet with a team by today or tomorrow.

"They've gotten real serious," Wells said of the Knicks.

If Sessions accepts a Knicks offer, that could affect the David Lee situation. Walsh could conceivably pull his current $7-8 million per year offer and see if Lee accepts the one-year, $2.7 million qualifier.

Sessions is well-known by the Knicks coaching staff. Assistant Dan D'Antoni, Mike's brother, coached Sessions in AAU ball in Myrtle Beach, S.C.

In an ESPN video from Las Vegas, Dan D'Antoni said, "He's always been a share-the-ball-first guard. He's got great rhythm, great vision in the open court and halfcourt sets.

"I always thought he'd have good things going for him. He could better his shot. I can see him as one of the best guards in the league if he can get his shot beyond the 3-point line."

Selected 56th by the Bucks two years ago out of Nevada, Sessions averaged 27.5 minutes, 12.4 points and 5.7 assists last season, his first full season in the league.

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7/21/2009  8:29 AM
This would be an awesome deal, it's not even the maxed-out MLE. Sessions is a very good player, I hope Donnie is right about Milwaukee not matching.
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7/21/2009  8:42 AM
give it a shot. He cant shoot but otherwise fits the system.
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