Posted by earthmansurfer:

Posted by BigC:

Posted by WOODMANnYk:

As Misterearl said which i will agree, Hill would be similiar to a Chris Bosh

Runs the floor well, avg defender, good rebounding skills and shot blocking abilities.

Very long and athletic..

There is a lot more to Chris Bosh's game. For 1 Hill doe not have a handle like Chris Bosh. Bosh uses his crossover and spin move to create his shot. Jordan Hill's handle is not good. If Bosh wanted to he could play the point forward position. Jordan Hill can not. Bosh also has good hands getting passes and going up strong. Hill has a tendency to drop easy passes. To say that Hill can be Bosh is really stretching it. Plus Jordan Hill is not as athletic as Bosh. Hill barely jumps if it is not a dunk.

I know the combine results don't amount to much, especially since Bosh was like 51st. But for what it's worth, Hill can jump:

-Jordan Hill tied for the second highest max vertical reach in this class, maxing out at 11’11”, which ties him historically with Nene and puts him just ahead of Al Horford. His 31” no step vertical was quite impressive for a guy his size, and his no step reach of 11’7” tied him with the likes of Josh Smith. Unfortunately, his lane agility time of 12.23 seconds ranked last in this class. Though players are able to perform each test twice with laser timing, Hill’s agility test shouldn’t raise any major red flags. Hill’s 11 reps on the bench and 3.30 second ¾ court sprint were both par for the course.

I know Bosh is the superior player but it took him a few years to get where he was. Remember, Hill has only been playing ball since his Junior year in H.S. He is more than likely going to be a guy who continues to improve...

I didn't say Hill can't jump. The problem is he doesn't jump unless he is doing a dunk. If it is a dunk he will get up. If he is doing a layup he does not get off the ground which causes him to get blocked. Hopefully the coaching staff will work with him on this.

Posted by BigC:

Posted by earthmansurfer:

Posted by BigC:

Posted by WOODMANnYk:

As Misterearl said which i will agree, Hill would be similiar to a Chris Bosh

Runs the floor well, avg defender, good rebounding skills and shot blocking abilities.

Very long and athletic..

There is a lot more to Chris Bosh's game. For 1 Hill doe not have a handle like Chris Bosh. Bosh uses his crossover and spin move to create his shot. Jordan Hill's handle is not good. If Bosh wanted to he could play the point forward position. Jordan Hill can not. Bosh also has good hands getting passes and going up strong. Hill has a tendency to drop easy passes. To say that Hill can be Bosh is really stretching it. Plus Jordan Hill is not as athletic as Bosh. Hill barely jumps if it is not a dunk.

I know the combine results don't amount to much, especially since Bosh was like 51st. But for what it's worth, Hill can jump:

-Jordan Hill tied for the second highest max vertical reach in this class, maxing out at 11’11”, which ties him historically with Nene and puts him just ahead of Al Horford. His 31” no step vertical was quite impressive for a guy his size, and his no step reach of 11’7” tied him with the likes of Josh Smith. Unfortunately, his lane agility time of 12.23 seconds ranked last in this class. Though players are able to perform each test twice with laser timing, Hill’s agility test shouldn’t raise any major red flags. Hill’s 11 reps on the bench and 3.30 second ¾ court sprint were both par for the course.

I know Bosh is the superior player but it took him a few years to get where he was. Remember, Hill has only been playing ball since his Junior year in H.S. He is more than likely going to be a guy who continues to improve...

I didn't say Hill can't jump. The problem is he doesn't jump unless he is doing a dunk. If it is a dunk he will get up. If he is doing a layup he does not get off the ground which causes him to get blocked. Hopefully the coaching staff will work with him on this.

Big C,

earthmansurfer and myself feel the same way and im sure other knicks fans do too. He'll pick up his game and get bettr quicker than Chris Bosh did. Remember, he's started playing ball in his junior yr of HS.

The dude is athletic and able to run the floor pretty well. Watch him develop his game in no time..

Posted by WOODMANnYk:

Posted by BigC:

Posted by earthmansurfer:

Posted by BigC:

Posted by WOODMANnYk:

As Misterearl said which i will agree, Hill would be similiar to a Chris Bosh

Runs the floor well, avg defender, good rebounding skills and shot blocking abilities.

Very long and athletic..

There is a lot more to Chris Bosh's game. For 1 Hill doe not have a handle like Chris Bosh. Bosh uses his crossover and spin move to create his shot. Jordan Hill's handle is not good. If Bosh wanted to he could play the point forward position. Jordan Hill can not. Bosh also has good hands getting passes and going up strong. Hill has a tendency to drop easy passes. To say that Hill can be Bosh is really stretching it. Plus Jordan Hill is not as athletic as Bosh. Hill barely jumps if it is not a dunk.

I know the combine results don't amount to much, especially since Bosh was like 51st. But for what it's worth, Hill can jump:

-Jordan Hill tied for the second highest max vertical reach in this class, maxing out at 11’11”, which ties him historically with Nene and puts him just ahead of Al Horford. His 31” no step vertical was quite impressive for a guy his size, and his no step reach of 11’7” tied him with the likes of Josh Smith. Unfortunately, his lane agility time of 12.23 seconds ranked last in this class. Though players are able to perform each test twice with laser timing, Hill’s agility test shouldn’t raise any major red flags. Hill’s 11 reps on the bench and 3.30 second ¾ court sprint were both par for the course.

I know Bosh is the superior player but it took him a few years to get where he was. Remember, Hill has only been playing ball since his Junior year in H.S. He is more than likely going to be a guy who continues to improve...

I didn't say Hill can't jump. The problem is he doesn't jump unless he is doing a dunk. If it is a dunk he will get up. If he is doing a layup he does not get off the ground which causes him to get blocked. Hopefully the coaching staff will work with him on this.

Big C,

earthmansurfer and myself feel the same way and im sure other knicks fans do too. He'll pick up his game and get bettr quicker than Chris Bosh did. Remember, he's started playing ball in his junior yr of HS.

The dude is athletic and able to run the floor pretty well. Watch him develop his game in no time..

I am not doubting that he can get better what I am saying his style of game is nothing like Bosh. Whether you are comparing Hill to Bosh in college their games are different. Ask anyone that has watched Hill play, and see if they think his game reminds them of Chris Bosh. This week people are saying Hill reminds them of Chris Bosh. Two weeks ago he reminds people of Amare.Then it was Larry Johnson. Even the three players I just mentioned games are not similar. How about people watch the kid play in the NBA before we start saying that Hill is going to be like the next________

So as Knicks fans we should be in good shape for years to come because Danilo can be the next Dirk and Hill can be the next Bosh. (Joking)

Let's all just enjoy Hill to be a good player without the high expectations.


[Edited by - BigC on 07-13-2009 6:01 PM]

Posted by misterearl:

No two fingerprints are alike

BigC - player comparisons are a lazy person's means of describing a skill set. They have never been, and never will be, an accurate measure of what a player brings to the table. The Chris Bosh comparison was a deliberate push away from the Renaldo Balkman mirage.

The Answer Man is no fan of player comparisons.

If Jordan Hill can block 2 shots a game he will be well received.

If he can make two dribbles and dunk in traffic The Garden will go nuts.



[Edited by - misterearl on 07-13-2009 5:01 PM]

Posted by BigC:

Posted by misterearl:

No two fingerprints are alike

BigC - player comparisons are a lazy person's means of describing a skill set. They have never been, and never will be, an accurate measure of what a player brings to the table. The Chris Bosh comparison was a deliberate push away from the Renaldo Balkman mirage.

The Answer Man is no fan of player comparisons.

If Jordan Hill can block 2 shots a game he will be well received.

If he can make two dribbles and dunk in traffic The Garden will go nuts.



[Edited by - misterearl on 07-13-2009 5:01 PM]

Cool Earl. I understand your position. I just don't like hyping up players and then when that player does not meet people expectations Knicks fans want these players dead or are outside of MSG with aluminum bat trying to knock these players heads off. The guy has not even put on a Knicks warmup summer league outfit.

Is that so wrong?

Posted by GodSaveTheKnicks:

Posted by WOODMANnYk:

What the current Pres/GM did in 7 mos, the last 2 GM/Pres couldn't do in 8 yrs. FREE CAP SPACE!

A bit off topic but I like the signature Woodman. Though I don't think Isiah ever gave a crap about cap space. I don't know if Dolan ever told him there was a salary cap.

Well if Dolan never told him there was a salary cap how is it Isiah's fault?