Posted by CrushAlot:

I think Walsh has really done a very good job. He has a plan and he has stuck with it. He has cleared cap while acquiring players who have fit in with D's system. My only complaints are hiring D' as coach and drafting Gallo in the 08 draft when there was so much talent available that was not a stretch, reach or nearly as much of a risk. Walsh has really supported D' and his system since hiring him so I think that D' and the Knicks will have success but I don't see D' ever winning a championship with his coaching style. I also think there was no reason for Hill or Kidd to come to NY in the twilight of their careers. The Knicks are rebuilding and by the time the team is competing in the playoffs past the first round both of those guys maybe retired. Walsh has no money to work with and it is only his professionalism and D'Antoni that brought about any interest from both Hill and Kidd.

Posted by JohnWallace44:

Posted by buddapaw:

Posted by JohnWallace44:

I'll give Donnie a D-, not an F because he brought in a credible coach.

He didn't take a shot at trading up for Mayor or Westbrook.

He put us on a one way train to 2010, and now it looks like that plan is shot.

He also ***** footed around the 2010 issue when he let the 2009 trade deadline pass without packaging Nate or Lee to get rid of Jeffries or Curry or to bring long term talent back.

This offseason you see Portland, Dallas, Phoenix, Toronto, Orlando all out maneuvering the Knicks.

Now the best we're possibly going to be left with is to have Lee and Nate sign their qualifying offers. That would be a serious lucky break for Walsh because he might get a do-over on the Lee and Nate trades.

Its sad watching Jason Kidd and Grant Hill use Walsh to get bigger deals for themselves.

I get the reaction, but you come in as GM to an bad situation, whiff on a draft, put the team on a pipe dream 2010 quest, whiff on a trade deadline, and whiff on an offseason and what am I supposed to say?

Donnie has emberassed himself in my opinion.

I wrote the same thing at the trade deadline when he choked and didn't do the Jeffries/Nate deal.

I expect to write the same thing again when he whiffs at this year's deadline, and when he's sitting there in 2010 explaining why the Knicks are sitting there with 20 million in cap room and no players.

Posted by JohnWallace44:

Posted by buddapaw:

Posted by JohnWallace44:

I'll give Donnie a D-, not an F because he brought in a credible coach.

He didn't take a shot at trading up for Mayor or Westbrook.

He put us on a one way train to 2010, and now it looks like that plan is shot.

He also ***** footed around the 2010 issue when he let the 2009 trade deadline pass without packaging Nate or Lee to get rid of Jeffries or Curry or to bring long term talent back.

This offseason you see Portland, Dallas, Phoenix, Toronto, Orlando all out maneuvering the Knicks.

Now the best we're possibly going to be left with is to have Lee and Nate sign their qualifying offers. That would be a serious lucky break for Walsh because he might get a do-over on the Lee and Nate trades.

Its sad watching Jason Kidd and Grant Hill use Walsh to get bigger deals for themselves.

I get the reaction, but you come in as GM to an bad situation, whiff on a draft, put the team on a pipe dream 2010 quest, whiff on a trade deadline, and whiff on an offseason and what am I supposed to say?

Donnie has emberassed himself in my opinion.

I wrote the same thing at the trade deadline when he choked and didn't do the Jeffries/Nate deal.

I expect to write the same thing again when he whiffs at this year's deadline, and when he's sitting there in 2010 explaining why the Knicks are sitting there with 20 million in cap room and no players.

Posted by DrAlphaeus:

You know what, we've had SO much fun talking about the draft, how about we just have a plucky but sucky team for another season, so we can get a high lottery pick and draft the next PATRICK EWING! You know the next dynasty of Atlantic Division championships isn't going to happen until a jubilant Madison Square Garden draft night crowd actually CHEERS for the pick we get! FEEL THE ENERGY!

Posted by JohnWallace44:

Posted by martin:

Posted by JohnWallace44:

Posted by buddapaw:

Posted by JohnWallace44:

I'll give Donnie a D-, not an F because he brought in a credible coach.

He didn't take a shot at trading up for Mayor or Westbrook.

He put us on a one way train to 2010, and now it looks like that plan is shot.

He also ***** footed around the 2010 issue when he let the 2009 trade deadline pass without packaging Nate or Lee to get rid of Jeffries or Curry or to bring long term talent back.

This offseason you see Portland, Dallas, Phoenix, Toronto, Orlando all out maneuvering the Knicks.

Now the best we're possibly going to be left with is to have Lee and Nate sign their qualifying offers. That would be a serious lucky break for Walsh because he might get a do-over on the Lee and Nate trades.

Its sad watching Jason Kidd and Grant Hill use Walsh to get bigger deals for themselves.

I get the reaction, but you come in as GM to an bad situation, whiff on a draft, put the team on a pipe dream 2010 quest, whiff on a trade deadline, and whiff on an offseason and what am I supposed to say?

Donnie has emberassed himself in my opinion.

I wrote the same thing at the trade deadline when he choked and didn't do the Jeffries/Nate deal.

I expect to write the same thing again when he whiffs at this year's deadline, and when he's sitting there in 2010 explaining why the Knicks are sitting there with 20 million in cap room and no players.

you whiffed on your post.

again

You're right. Sorry for not bringing another intense BJ Mullens post.

Posted by djsunyc:

Posted by CrushAlot:

I think Walsh has really done a very good job. He has a plan and he has stuck with it. He has cleared cap while acquiring players who have fit in with D's system. My only complaints are hiring D' as coach and drafting Gallo in the 08 draft when there was so much talent available that was not a stretch, reach or nearly as much of a risk. Walsh has really supported D' and his system since hiring him so I think that D' and the Knicks will have success but I don't see D' ever winning a championship with his coaching style. I also think there was no reason for Hill or Kidd to come to NY in the twilight of their careers. The Knicks are rebuilding and by the time the team is competing in the playoffs past the first round both of those guys maybe retired. Walsh has no money to work with and it is only his professionalism and D'Antoni that brought about any interest from both Hill and Kidd.

a question, who has walsh brought in that peformed well in this system? chandler + nate + lee were already here. gallo is tbd. hill + douglas is tbd too. everyone else that was acquired didn't really look that good.

walsh said 2010 and he shed contracts for it - for that, he gets alot credit.

but everything else, i don't see it as a positive yet.

Posted by Bippity10:

Posted by Bonn1997:

Posted by djsunyc:

Posted by CrushAlot:

I think Walsh has really done a very good job. He has a plan and he has stuck with it. He has cleared cap while acquiring players who have fit in with D's system. My only complaints are hiring D' as coach and drafting Gallo in the 08 draft when there was so much talent available that was not a stretch, reach or nearly as much of a risk. Walsh has really supported D' and his system since hiring him so I think that D' and the Knicks will have success but I don't see D' ever winning a championship with his coaching style. I also think there was no reason for Hill or Kidd to come to NY in the twilight of their careers. The Knicks are rebuilding and by the time the team is competing in the playoffs past the first round both of those guys maybe retired. Walsh has no money to work with and it is only his professionalism and D'Antoni that brought about any interest from both Hill and Kidd.

a question, who has walsh brought in that peformed well in this system? chandler + nate + lee were already here. gallo is tbd. hill + douglas is tbd too. everyone else that was acquired didn't really look that good.

walsh said 2010 and he shed contracts for it - for that, he gets alot credit.

but everything else, i don't see it as a positive yet.

At least half (I'd say more like 80%) of Donnie's job to this point has been getting rid of players rather than acquiring players.

People always want the splashy addition, but you are right. The goal was to get rid of teh garbage that has been plaguing our roster for 10 years and start anew, with the hope to get under the cap for 2010 and at least be in the game to improve our team dramatically. I do think that Donnie needs to show progress by next year, but I'm not sure how fans could be upset by dumping contracts, getting reasonable one's and adding 3 young players to the roster.

If...........Gallinari, Hill or Douglas(all three obviously no one is excited about) turn out to be a player everyone's mood changes.