Posted by BigC:

Here is the thing, if it is about getting just character guys why did Walsh sign Duhon who had record in Duke and on the Bulls of having a drinking problem? If it is about just getting character guys why was the target Jason Kidd who beat his wife? Nate has yet to have any off the court problems. Nate has not done anything more than want Mason and Starks did on the court.

Posted by daddynel:

At the end of the season it was said that nate was worth 6/7mil. Why all of a sudden is he not worth mle money? Silly me, actually thinking my wife is the only one who changes her mind like underwear.

Posted by fishmike:

Why cant Douglas back up Nate? Why cant they play together?

Yes... Nate needs to change his style some to fit better with MDA.
Yes I believe that Douglas as partially brought in as an upgrade to Nate (arent they close in age anyway?).

Nate is small but plays very well around the basket.

He also attacks the rim and will create a lot of offensive putbacks for fat Eddie, Hill, Lee and anyone else who follows him to the rim.

Nate isnt perfect but there is plenty of good to focus on and he brings a lot of things to the table. Good if he stays. If he walks I hope we get something back.

Posted by BigC:

Posted by crzymdups:

Posted by BigC:

Here is the thing, if it is about getting just character guys why did Walsh sign Duhon who had record in Duke and on the Bulls of having a drinking problem? If it is about just getting character guys why was the target Jason Kidd who beat his wife? Nate has yet to have any off the court problems. Nate has not done anything more than want Mason and Starks did on the court.

maybe it's not as much "character" as a way of playing on the court. jkidd had whatever personal problems, but he makes players around him better and he defends and he plays hard. duhon makes others better.

nate is a good kid, but he is selfish with the ball and doesnt make any teammates better. that's why he'll never be a PG. he's a tiny tiny SG. this isn't about his character - it's about how he fits the team and he really doesnt. he fits wth some team that needs a gunner off the bench. lakers or denver would be perfect

Exactly it is not about character. However, Duhon does not make the players around him better either. As far as Nate playing point guard, Nate role was to be a spark off the bench and setup players later. He rarely turns the ball over. Outside of Harrington and Chandler there really weren't any other scorers on this team last year. So who else was he suppose to pass to? Nate did the job that he was being asked. Scoring and being a spark off the bench was his duty. Mo Williams who everyone loves does the exact same thing playing point guard that Nate does. Yet every says Mo Williams is a natural point gaurd.

Go check Mo Williams stats with the minutes he got and compared that to Nate Robinson.

mo williams shoots jump shoots when lebron decides not to shoot. he is hardly a point guard. he's a good scorer. i agree he is similar to nate, but more of a jump-shooter and doesn't dominate the ball as much.

Posted by SupremeCommander:

Posted by martin:

Posted by BigC:

Posted by djsunyc:

if the knicks were so high on keeping nate, i don't think they shell out $4 mil to get toney douglas.

The thing is when the Knicks bought that pick was Toney Douglas the target? Or was it another player that got pickup earlier in the draft? Remember we knew about the Knicks buying that pick from the Lakers way before draft night.

[Edited by - BigC on 07-09-2009 12:05 PM]

Toney Douglas was the target

Walsh said as much and said he had a buyer for the pick Douglas wasn't available so

+1

Posted by misterearl:

Name That Tune

Put yourself in the shoes of ANY NBA General Manager and ask yourself if Nate Robinson is your preferred starter at either guard position?

What team are you?

If not, what level of chedda do you invest in an energetic, frenetic and magnetic pine brother?

agreed. $3M-$4M max, if he's the absolute missing piece and you're already over the cap maybe the MLE. funny to think nate was seeing $10M stars in the sky. poor dlee and nate were misled by somebody heading into this off-season.

He's improved his retardation every year.

Posted by Paladin55:

Posted by SupremeCommander:

Posted by martin:

Posted by BigC:

Posted by djsunyc:

if the knicks were so high on keeping nate, i don't think they shell out $4 mil to get toney douglas.

The thing is when the Knicks bought that pick was Toney Douglas the target? Or was it another player that got pickup earlier in the draft? Remember we knew about the Knicks buying that pick from the Lakers way before draft night.

[Edited by - BigC on 07-09-2009 12:05 PM]

Toney Douglas was the target

Walsh said as much and said he had a buyer for the pick Douglas wasn't available so

+1

I thought I read that Douglas was the guy we wanted as soon as Hill was picked, and that if we had picked a guard, we would be have been looking at Summers or Derrick Brown. We had Jack McClinton in twice, Douglas in once, and I don't recall any bloggers or reporters talking Douglas up, so I think we were holding our cards close to the vest- hoping that he would be there for us at 29.


I think that if we can get someone for Nate in a S&T, he is gone, and if we were offered Farmar, Walsh would take it, although I would probably ask them for a 2011 #1, as well.

[Edited by - Paladin55 on 07-09-2009 1:39 PM]

Posted by Bippity10:

On a bad team nobody has the juice card to do it, so he roams free.