Posted by blueandorange:

YES!!! Another Loss! What I tell you??? The Knicks will go down to defeat after defeat until the Dolan-Laydone-Chaney-VanHorn regime is ended!

hahaha

I thought Van horn is a good shooter. He can't hit the side of a barn when he's open!

Chaney Got no excuses now,Time for Brendan Malone and the JVG style again

i like the way Dice played.I was shocked that he played better than Thomas in only his second game as a Knick.H20,KVH,DEKE,struggled but still managed to play well.DICE n Ward came off the bench wit a lil spark,witch to me it was good.Especially Dice for his second game as a knick but it wasn't enough.The main reason here was them 24TO.they gotta get a point guard wit some handle.trade either of our point guards.i dont care,as long he brings what we need.cuz in 2yrs.the knicks ova seas pg would be in a uni.now i cant blame the hole thing on the pg but yes i can.lol,nah but did yah see Houston moonwalking up the ball then gettin robbed,it just kills me.lol,then standin in the same spot to be called for traveling,then steppin on the line in back to back games for tryin to make a three.silly *** turnovers just get me heated.

[Edited by - nyk8 on 12/04/2003 02:06:22]

[Edited by - nyk8 on 12/04/2003 02:07:12]

According to two league executives, the Knicks are still exploring trades for CHARLIE WARD, whose $6 million contract can be bought out for $2 million by January. Toronto remains interested in moving MORRIS PETERSON and needs a center in return; the Knicks have been shopping OTHELLA HARRINGTON and MICHAEL DOLEAC.Turning the ball over stops momenteum , unsurety brings on telegrphed passing. Give me Rory Sparrow.

Disappointing, the only bright spots right now are FWill and Dyess...when are we gonna see Lampe get some PT? I want to see him grow.

Overall the Knicks aren't that disappointing compared to the rest of the east, lets face it - the east is pretty horrible.

It's not like KVH has yet to have a good game that we end up losing anyway. The season started that way. Now the rest of the team is becoming as butterfingered with the ball as he has been all season.

Van Horn's Disease... Contagious across the Knicks.

The Knicks have been playing better when not having to work him into the offense (and I would mention defense if he had any).

It seemed like we couldn't throw or catch any passes when it mattered last night.

It wasn't just KT. Eisley had five TO's, Houston 4 and KVH/Ward 3...

Posted by playa2:

KT bonehead decisions is a momenteum killer period. He is truly a back up that can give you decent numbers, but to rely on this guy is crazy. He gives me gray hairs just watching him play. And why do we use him to bring the ball up, remember how well we did when Houston and KVH was out ? Our passing game was crisp and precise. The other guys must touch the ball continually or they get lost.

playa, we finally agree, I like KT, but he is not a starter, a great backup and 6th man of the year candidate yes, but starter NO!! He getsup for guys like Ben wallace but lets guys like Radmanovic outplayhim, that should not happen with a player like KT, then the silly obvious momentum killing fouls, that last foul he had killed us bcause Mutombo had a easy tip in which would have cut the lead to 6 with 3 minutes, instead the basket is wiped away and the sonics go down and score a 3 I think, that is a 5 point turnaround.. I said this before and I will say it again, no matter how much KT improves his stats, the knicks will not be better until he improves his game!!!

Posted by playa2:

Areal pt guard would solve all that turnover crap!

Playa, what have guys like me, Nec, Pike, ICe and others been saying to you for years now? The reason NY cannot run and does not play a fluid offense is because of their PG's. Normally they possess the ball pretty well, but when they are pressured or need to do more, they lose it and the TO's happen. The team as a whole does not have every good ball handlers. H20, KVH, DEKE, KT ...they are not great with the ball, which puts even more emphases on the PG's.

Layden has failed in this area because it has not changed since his tenure started. Ward is a good backup, Eisley is barely that. FWILL has the best handles, but dfoes not get the time, yet. NY needs a PG, who can handle the ball. That will fix Chaney's offense too!