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TMS
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7/6/2009  6:49 PM
Posted by McK1:
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taking on AK47's salary is a horrible idea & doesn't fit into Walsh's plan at all... ur asking Walsh to not only trade away the guy he took w/a #6 pick last year, but also to go completely against his stated primary goal by trading for Kirilenko... it's not gonna happen, not even worth wasting our time talking about IMO.

it doesn't have to be for AK but I can't see any legit basketball reason for Gallo's name not to be in any trade/asset acquisition discussions

how do u know Donnie's not willing to trade him? it takes 2 teams to be interested to make a deal & usually the deals that get talked about don't get leaked to the press.

[Edited by - TMS on 07-06-2009 3:50 PM]
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7/6/2009  7:04 PM
Posted by TMS:
Posted by McK1:
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taking on AK47's salary is a horrible idea & doesn't fit into Walsh's plan at all... ur asking Walsh to not only trade away the guy he took w/a #6 pick last year, but also to go completely against his stated primary goal by trading for Kirilenko... it's not gonna happen, not even worth wasting our time talking about IMO.

it doesn't have to be for AK but I can't see any legit basketball reason for Gallo's name not to be in any trade/asset acquisition discussions

how do u know Donnie's not willing to trade him? it takes 2 teams to be interested to make a deal & usually the deals that get talked about don't get leaked to the press.

[Edited by - TMS on 07-06-2009 3:50 PM]


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7/6/2009  7:17 PM
Posted by Pharzeone:
Posted by TMS:
Posted by McK1:
Posted by TMS:



taking on AK47's salary is a horrible idea & doesn't fit into Walsh's plan at all... ur asking Walsh to not only trade away the guy he took w/a #6 pick last year, but also to go completely against his stated primary goal by trading for Kirilenko... it's not gonna happen, not even worth wasting our time talking about IMO.

it doesn't have to be for AK but I can't see any legit basketball reason for Gallo's name not to be in any trade/asset acquisition discussions

how do u know Donnie's not willing to trade him? it takes 2 teams to be interested to make a deal & usually the deals that get talked about don't get leaked to the press.

[Edited by - TMS on 07-06-2009 3:50 PM]



lol.

Every deal Walsh has completed has been leaked prior and we know about the ones that didn't get done. Like eny said: Donnie has his people come on the forums once whats on his table gets "leaked" to the press and if the popular opinion says do it, Donnie goes with it.
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7/6/2009  7:19 PM
I tell you guys why the knicks aren't going to trade Gallo. The kid if healthy is going to be one of the best shooters in the NBA. Last I looked he was still growing and will possibly be 6'11 -7' by the time next year rolls around. While I like chandler and like the versatility that he bring to the Knicks the higher upside as of now is with Gallo. The problem with possibly trading one of the two is they both have great upside. I think the Knicks can come up with a few trade ideas that will allow the Knicks to keep both Gallo and Chandler and get the player they want.

Here is a senario where the Knicks can make use of Lee. Portland is interested in Lee and a sign and trade can be reached where the Knicks send Lee to Portland and the Knicks get Fernandez. You guys decide now if you are willing to part with Fernandez or Chandler. Lets say the Knicks opt to send Fernandez and Harrington to the T-wolves for Rubio and expiring contracts and a future pick. This is a win win for everyone. It make to much sense and everyone gets what they want. If the Knicks feel they need Grant Hill then they can offer up a little more by using the MLE say 3.5 mill for Hill to replace Harrington.
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7/6/2009  7:24 PM
i'm not that eager to get rubio. he's a big question mark to begin with, and both he and minnesota have misplayed the draft imo. why bail either of them out? hold onto our assets. if minny gets desperate, let's dictate the terms to our advantage or else pass.
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7/6/2009  7:34 PM
Posted by Marv:

i'm not that eager to get rubio. he's a big question mark to begin with, and both he and minnesota have misplayed the draft imo. why bail either of them out? hold onto our assets. if minny gets desperate, let's dictate the terms to our advantage or else pass.

The Knicks are eager to get Rubio. I think its important to get him if they feel he is the one to quarter back the team.
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7/6/2009  7:42 PM
Posted by Vmart:
Posted by Marv:

i'm not that eager to get rubio. he's a big question mark to begin with, and both he and minnesota have misplayed the draft imo. why bail either of them out? hold onto our assets. if minny gets desperate, let's dictate the terms to our advantage or else pass.

The Knicks are eager to get Rubio. I think its important to get him if they feel he is the one to quarter back the team.

oof. i got bad vibes. and as you all know my vibes tell no lies.
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7/6/2009  8:08 PM
Posted by Marv:

i'm not that eager to get rubio. he's a big question mark to begin with, and both he and minnesota have misplayed the draft imo. why bail either of them out? hold onto our assets. if minny gets desperate, let's dictate the terms to our advantage or else pass.

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7/6/2009  8:11 PM
Posted by Marv:
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i'm not that eager to get rubio. he's a big question mark to begin with, and both he and minnesota have misplayed the draft imo. why bail either of them out? hold onto our assets. if minny gets desperate, let's dictate the terms to our advantage or else pass.

The Knicks are eager to get Rubio. I think its important to get him if they feel he is the one to quarter back the team.

oof. i got bad vibes. and as you all know my vibes tell no lies.

Don't worry Marv. I'm sure Rubio can be the next Miloš Vujanić.
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7/6/2009  8:14 PM
So jump shooting translate into huge upside? Does Steve Novak have huge upside too? He is already one of the league's best shooters and he is 6'10 too.
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7/6/2009  8:18 PM
Posted by Marv:
Posted by Vmart:
Posted by Marv:

i'm not that eager to get rubio. he's a big question mark to begin with, and both he and minnesota have misplayed the draft imo. why bail either of them out? hold onto our assets. if minny gets desperate, let's dictate the terms to our advantage or else pass.

The Knicks are eager to get Rubio. I think its important to get him if they feel he is the one to quarter back the team.

oof. i got bad vibes. and as you all know my vibes tell no lies.

dude, that's just the onset of your shakes. shakes can often be mistaken for vibes.
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7/6/2009  8:22 PM
Posted by martin:
Posted by Marv:
Posted by Vmart:
Posted by Marv:

i'm not that eager to get rubio. he's a big question mark to begin with, and both he and minnesota have misplayed the draft imo. why bail either of them out? hold onto our assets. if minny gets desperate, let's dictate the terms to our advantage or else pass.

The Knicks are eager to get Rubio. I think its important to get him if they feel he is the one to quarter back the team.

oof. i got bad vibes. and as you all know my vibes tell no lies.

dude, that's just the onset of your shakes. shakes can often be mistaken for vibes.

yeah but they keep the drink stirred
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7/6/2009  8:24 PM
Posted by Marv:
Posted by martin:
Posted by Marv:
Posted by Vmart:
Posted by Marv:

i'm not that eager to get rubio. he's a big question mark to begin with, and both he and minnesota have misplayed the draft imo. why bail either of them out? hold onto our assets. if minny gets desperate, let's dictate the terms to our advantage or else pass.

The Knicks are eager to get Rubio. I think its important to get him if they feel he is the one to quarter back the team.

oof. i got bad vibes. and as you all know my vibes tell no lies.

dude, that's just the onset of your shakes. shakes can often be mistaken for vibes.

yeah but they keep the drink stirred

shaken or stirred?
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7/6/2009  8:27 PM
Posted by Pharzeone:

So jump shooting translate into huge upside? Does Steve Novak have huge upside too? He is already one of the league's best shooters and he is 6'10 too.

Did you just compare a 3rd year player who is 26-year-old who can only shoot the 3-pointer to a 20-year-old who was hurt who put up similar stats and can also put the ball on the floor, demonstrated a little bit more D than most expected, and otherwise displayed a variety of O... and not know how to differentiate upside between the 2?
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7/6/2009  8:34 PM
Posted by martin:
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So jump shooting translate into huge upside? Does Steve Novak have huge upside too? He is already one of the league's best shooters and he is 6'10 too.

Did you just compare a 3rd year player who is 26-year-old who can only shoot the 3-pointer to a 20-year-old who was hurt who put up similar stats and can also put the ball on the floor, demonstrated a little bit more D than most expected, and otherwise displayed a variety of O... and not know how to differentiate upside between the 2?

Not sure where I compare the two maybe you can can point it out? I asked the question does Steve Novak have a huge upside too based on his jump shooting?
Posted by Pharzeone:

So jump shooting translate into huge upside? Does Steve Novak have huge upside too? He is already one of the league's best shooters and he is 6'10 too.
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7/6/2009  8:48 PM
why can't you compare the two? over half of gallo's attempts and made baskets last season were 3's.
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7/6/2009  8:53 PM
Posted by Pharzeone:
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So jump shooting translate into huge upside? Does Steve Novak have huge upside too? He is already one of the league's best shooters and he is 6'10 too.

Did you just compare a 3rd year player who is 26-year-old who can only shoot the 3-pointer to a 20-year-old who was hurt who put up similar stats and can also put the ball on the floor, demonstrated a little bit more D than most expected, and otherwise displayed a variety of O... and not know how to differentiate upside between the 2?

Not sure where I compare the two maybe you can can point it out? I asked the question does Steve Novak have a huge upside too based on his jump shooting?
Posted by Pharzeone:

So jump shooting translate into huge upside? Does Steve Novak have huge upside too? He is already one of the league's best shooters and he is 6'10 too.

so mostly you are just asking an irrelevant question about Novak after a Gallo post while noticing some similarities between the 2?
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7/6/2009  8:54 PM
Posted by McK1:

why can't you compare the two? over half of gallo's attempts and made baskets last season were 3's.

perhaps you missed the obvious that I just posted, let me re-post:

a 3rd year player who is 26-year-old who can only shoot the 3-pointer vs. a 20-year-old who was hurt who put up similar stats and can also put the ball on the floor, demonstrated a little bit more D than most expected, and otherwise displayed a variety of O
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7/6/2009  8:57 PM
Posted by martin:
Posted by McK1:

why can't you compare the two? over half of gallo's attempts and made baskets last season were 3's.

perhaps you missed the obvious that I just posted, let me re-post:

a 3rd year player who is 26-year-old who can only shoot the 3-pointer vs. a 20-year-old who was hurt who put up similar stats and can also put the ball on the floor, demonstrated a little bit more D than most expected, and otherwise displayed a variety of O

exactly.
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7/6/2009  8:59 PM
Posted by martin:
Posted by McK1:

why can't you compare the two? over half of gallo's attempts and made baskets last season were 3's.

perhaps you missed the obvious that I just posted, let me re-post:

a 3rd year player who is 26-year-old who can only shoot the 3-pointer vs. a 20-year-old who was hurt who put up similar stats and can also put the ball on the floor, demonstrated a little bit more D than most expected, and otherwise displayed a variety of O

He didn't miss the obvious, just chose to overlook it, something he has done at numerous points in this thread.

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