Posted by martin:
Posted by Pharzeone:
You're now falling into Isiah's Layden syndrome. Blaming Layden long after he turned the roster over. This roster has taken on Walsh's image whatever his plans are. It isn't Isiah's roster anymore with the exception of Curry and Jeffries. I mean are we going to give Isiah's credit for accomplishing what he did with Houston's large contract still looming over his tenture. At some point the buck has to stop being pass and there has to be some form of accountability. I think this was the point of Vescey's article.
Realistically, Nate and Lee are are on Isiah too, for better or worse. It's funny that the 2 primary guys that are left from the Isiah years are the 2 guys that the Knicks are trying most to rid themselves of. And this is only after 1 year of Walsh. Not bad.
I'm going to 1-up you in a comical sense...and I do find this funny:
Al Harrington and Larry Hughes are two players Isiah probably tried to and dreamed of adding to our team and now they are here.
Yet, they are clearly here for different reasons, but I do find it funny.
As to Nate, Lee, and even Chandler.
While we do like these three, want them to succeed, and muse that they could (while some of us, myself included, have somewhat soured on that they would be much more than we already see, and wouldn't mind them moved, yet this is a different point altogether) ---
Lee,Nate,Chandler are Isiah type players in the bad sense: All that talent, all that ability, all that flash in the pan, yet - they all have flaws that are VERY strong and tend to outweigh their strengths not just in any given game but over the long haul.
We know what they are, in short, Nate's maturity and lack of team play, Lee's lack of defense, poor passing despite having good vision, lack of a "legit" offensive game, Chandler's seemingly low IQ (a lot of unforced errors, repeated time and again) - (despite the ability to finish strong - tends to go lazy and take a deep shot or dribble slowly into a turnover).
In that above--- it's very Isiah-ish type players. We like them but we cannot say they're keepers because they too display the same misgivings that other Isiah players do. Crawford, Marbury, Curry, Zach - it's the same thing in the end.
Talent....but laziness, lack of execution, lack of understanding of the team game, and with some just a total lack of IQ on the court.
So, in that, while we love Lee, Nate, Chandler -- they are still Isiah players in every sense of the word: All that talent and no execution!
6/29/2009 4:25 PM
