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6/26/2009  6:21 PM
Posted by Uptown:

http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/60108/20090626/love_rubio_to_stay_in_spain/

Looks like Rubio is staying in Spain afterall....let the bidding war begin. Or does Kahn hold his ground and wait Rubio out?

BTW, TMS and NYK4ever should be proud of me for not starting a new thread to post this news

[Edited by - uptown on 06-26-2009 6:10 PM]

Oh it's too late. Yall fools are worse than Briggs. Man, I hated the way last year pick went down and I didn't carry on like this. I will be posting a weekly Anthony Randolph update when the season starts and I don't what to hear **** about it.
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He won't be the first or the last. Wonder prizes like Tiago, Fran, Milos and the rest have chosen to stay overseas and the league somehow manage to carry on without them. Hey maybe that Milos draft rights is still floating around out there somewhere maybe the Knicks can get him, you know the next big point guard that everyone forgot about.

the difference w/Rubio is he actually WANTS to play in the NBA... most of those other guys declined for whatever reason... Milos was scared he wouldn't get any playing time in NY... u can't equate Rubio's situation to that guy at all, completely different scenarios.

He got drafted so what's the problem. If it is his buyout then that was a problem he had before he put his name into the mix. And if the buyout was a really big deal why agree to it in the first place. Nick Cathales' doesn't have a buyout issue. Jennings didn't have a buyout issue. I just don't think internationals get the draft process in general. I think some come looking for special treatment. I can't get on Steve Francis for pulling that act with Vancouver and then say it's ok with Rubio. To me it is all the same.

i don't begrudge any player's right to try & control where he ends up playing... it's the same as me or you deciding between job offers in different cities... if you don't wanna live there then you're gonna consider other options, same as these guys are free to do... yeah there's a draft which none of us will have to face in reality but in the end, business is business & these guys are only looking out for their own best interests, just like the franchises drafting them are trying to do.
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6/26/2009  6:26 PM
Posted by Pharzeone:
Posted by Uptown:

http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/60108/20090626/love_rubio_to_stay_in_spain/

Looks like Rubio is staying in Spain afterall....let the bidding war begin. Or does Kahn hold his ground and wait Rubio out?

BTW, TMS and NYK4ever should be proud of me for not starting a new thread to post this news

[Edited by - uptown on 06-26-2009 6:10 PM]

Oh it's too late. Yall fools are worse than Briggs. Man, I hated the way last year pick went down and I didn't carry on like this. I will be posting a weekly Anthony Randolph update when the season starts and I don't what to hear **** about it.

go ahead & knock yourself out... it's not like it matters what i think anyways... i'm just stating an opinion about the excess clutter.
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Rubio skips T-Wolves post-draft press conference.
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Jun 26, 2009 6:24 PM EST

Ricky Rubio wasn't present when the Timberwolves introduced their 2009 draft class on Friday.

Jonny Flynn, the 6th overall pick, and Wayne Ellington, the 28th selection, attended the event with Minnesota president David Kahn.

The Timberwolves claim Rubio decided to stay behind because of his contract situation.
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6/26/2009  6:33 PM
http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/60109/20090626/walsh_says_hell_call_kahn_about_rubio/
Walsh Says He'll Call Kahn About Rubio

Jun 26, 2009 2:29 PM EST

Donnie Walsh says he'll call his former employee David Kahn about Ricky Rubio.

"I haven't spoken to Minnesota, I will," Walsh said. "I don't know what's going on there. He took a lot of point guards so I want to ask him, 'Why did you do that?' In a way that kind of helped us because that left us with two players that were, in our mind, really good players. I just want to find out."

Kahn gave a radio interview saying he has no intention of trading Rubio and that he chose another point guard, Jonny Flynn, because he was aware that Rubio could remain in Europe next season.

Rubio "was desperately hopeful he would somehow wind up with the Knicks and, apparently, is still holding out hope," writes Alan Hahn of Newsday. "It is pretty clear that he would immediately report if the Knicks acquired his rights."
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6/26/2009  6:50 PM
If this is all true then he has a serious personality issue. Far worse than Francis or Marbury. Francis didn't even carry on like this and Marbury went to Minny even though everyone knew he wanted to go NY. What's the difference here? Where is the criticism? oh yeah.
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6/26/2009  6:54 PM
Posted by Pharzeone:

If this is all true then he has a serious personality issue. Far worse than Francis or Marbury. Francis didn't even carry on like this and Marbury went to Minny even though everyone knew he wanted to go NY. What's the difference here? Where is the criticism? oh yeah.

the difference is Rubio has a very good option to stay in Europe, and everyone knew this at the outset. Francis just whined and sulked.
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6/26/2009  7:12 PM
Posted by Pharzeone:

If this is all true then he has a serious personality issue. Far worse than Francis or Marbury. Francis didn't even carry on like this and Marbury went to Minny even though everyone knew he wanted to go NY. What's the difference here? Where is the criticism? oh yeah.

The difference is his little diva act might actually land him in NY and NY fans want the same thing. I think most Minny fans would share your sentiments. As a Knicks fan, I'm happy to see top prospects declaring their interest in being here.

Eli Manning pulled the same ish on the Chargers and, as a Giants fan, I couldn't care less. I'm just happy we got him. Same would go for Rubio.
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6/26/2009  7:14 PM
Posted by eViL:
Posted by Pharzeone:

If this is all true then he has a serious personality issue. Far worse than Francis or Marbury. Francis didn't even carry on like this and Marbury went to Minny even though everyone knew he wanted to go NY. What's the difference here? Where is the criticism? oh yeah.

The difference is his little diva act might actually land him in NY and NY fans want the same thing. I think most Minny fans would share your sentiments. As a Knicks fan, I'm happy to see top prospects declaring their interest in being here.

Eli Manning pulled the same ish on the Chargers and, as a Giants fan, I couldn't care less. I'm just happy we got him. Same would go for Rubio.

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6/26/2009  7:21 PM
Posted by martin:
Posted by Pharzeone:

If this is all true then he has a serious personality issue. Far worse than Francis or Marbury. Francis didn't even carry on like this and Marbury went to Minny even though everyone knew he wanted to go NY. What's the difference here? Where is the criticism? oh yeah.

the difference is Rubio has a very good option to stay in Europe, and everyone knew this at the outset. Francis just whined and sulked.

Isn't Rubio whining too about not getting to LA or NY. The media came down hard on Francis for that. As TMS pointed out the same with Yi even on this board. It is easy to say hey he is choosing my team but it could just as easy be done to the Knicks.
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6/26/2009  7:23 PM
Posted by eViL:
Posted by Pharzeone:

If this is all true then he has a serious personality issue. Far worse than Francis or Marbury. Francis didn't even carry on like this and Marbury went to Minny even though everyone knew he wanted to go NY. What's the difference here? Where is the criticism? oh yeah.

The difference is his little diva act might actually land him in NY and NY fans want the same thing. I think most Minny fans would share your sentiments. As a Knicks fan, I'm happy to see top prospects declaring their interest in being here.

Eli Manning pulled the same ish on the Chargers and, as a Giants fan, I couldn't care less. I'm just happy we got him. Same would go for Rubio.

personally i could care less if any player pulled this diva act with any team... this is their life they're deciding on afterall & they can do with it as they see fit to create the best situation for themselves & their families... why some fans have a problem w/that is beyond me... if he didn't want to play in NY even, i'd say to hell with him & move on... Rubio isn't the only talented player in this draft... OKL was stupid not to take him at #3 IMO cuz even tho he didn't wanna play for them they coulda just played the game & held him as a bargaining asset to get the player(s) or assets they wanted... MIN has the ability to do the same here now that they have his draft rights... players play the game of million dollar chicken & so do sports franchises all the time... it's just business.
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Posted by eViL:
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If this is all true then he has a serious personality issue. Far worse than Francis or Marbury. Francis didn't even carry on like this and Marbury went to Minny even though everyone knew he wanted to go NY. What's the difference here? Where is the criticism? oh yeah.

The difference is his little diva act might actually land him in NY and NY fans want the same thing. I think most Minny fans would share your sentiments. As a Knicks fan, I'm happy to see top prospects declaring their interest in being here.

Eli Manning pulled the same ish on the Chargers and, as a Giants fan, I couldn't care less. I'm just happy we got him. Same would go for Rubio.

Hey I'm a Giants fan and I like Eli but as it turns out I would have been just as big a Rivers fan. Eli won a SB but there are many people who say in SD who thank God that Eli pulled that stunt. Rivers and Merriman vs. Eli. This isn't the thread for it but I'm curious to see post Plax and just what type of quarterback he really is.
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Posted by TMS:
Posted by eViL:
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If this is all true then he has a serious personality issue. Far worse than Francis or Marbury. Francis didn't even carry on like this and Marbury went to Minny even though everyone knew he wanted to go NY. What's the difference here? Where is the criticism? oh yeah.

The difference is his little diva act might actually land him in NY and NY fans want the same thing. I think most Minny fans would share your sentiments. As a Knicks fan, I'm happy to see top prospects declaring their interest in being here.

Eli Manning pulled the same ish on the Chargers and, as a Giants fan, I couldn't care less. I'm just happy we got him. Same would go for Rubio.

personally i could care less if any player pulled this diva act with any team... this is their life they're deciding on afterall & they can do with it as they see fit to create the best situation for themselves & their families... why some fans have a problem w/that is beyond me... if he didn't want to play in NY even, i'd say to hell with him & move on... Rubio isn't the only talented player in this draft... OKL was stupid not to take him at #3 IMO cuz even tho he didn't wanna play for them they coulda just played the game & held him as a bargaining asset to get the player(s) or assets they wanted... MIN has the ability to do the same here now that they have his draft rights... players play the game of million dollar chicken & so do sports franchises all the time... it's just business.

I agree but if Khan chooses to do nothing and let him rot in Europe then that is good business too. Those draft rights aren't going nowhere and he has the luxury of having another talented point guard to play on day 1. From what I understand and from what everyone was complaining about just a few weeks ago, is that he doesn't make much money on his Euro contract. The original reason for the lawsuit. Who knows.
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Posted by Pharzeone:
Posted by TMS:
Posted by eViL:
Posted by Pharzeone:

If this is all true then he has a serious personality issue. Far worse than Francis or Marbury. Francis didn't even carry on like this and Marbury went to Minny even though everyone knew he wanted to go NY. What's the difference here? Where is the criticism? oh yeah.

The difference is his little diva act might actually land him in NY and NY fans want the same thing. I think most Minny fans would share your sentiments. As a Knicks fan, I'm happy to see top prospects declaring their interest in being here.

Eli Manning pulled the same ish on the Chargers and, as a Giants fan, I couldn't care less. I'm just happy we got him. Same would go for Rubio.

personally i could care less if any player pulled this diva act with any team... this is their life they're deciding on afterall & they can do with it as they see fit to create the best situation for themselves & their families... why some fans have a problem w/that is beyond me... if he didn't want to play in NY even, i'd say to hell with him & move on... Rubio isn't the only talented player in this draft... OKL was stupid not to take him at #3 IMO cuz even tho he didn't wanna play for them they coulda just played the game & held him as a bargaining asset to get the player(s) or assets they wanted... MIN has the ability to do the same here now that they have his draft rights... players play the game of million dollar chicken & so do sports franchises all the time... it's just business.

I agree but if Khan chooses to do nothing and let him rot in Europe then that is good business too. Those draft rights aren't going nowhere and he has the luxury of having another talented point guard to play on day 1. From what I understand and from what everyone was complaining about just a few weeks ago, is that he doesn't make much money on his Euro contract. The original reason for the lawsuit. Who knows.

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How the heck do you draft a guy at 5 without knowing for dam sure that this scenario wont happen? You simply cannot do it--what kind of hardball is there to play? None Ricky Rubio can play in Spain the rest of his career if he wants to. Minnesota will lose the game of chicken. Reference Mr Vazquez.

This is like a nightmare for Minnesota--who owned the draft and literally made a mockery of it. Johny Flynn is OK he's a leader on team with the pieces in the middle in place and to me their best pick was Ellington at 28 because they really lacked shooting --especially after trading it all away. I really have to think they were completely blindsided by Harden and Evans going 3-4--that was probably it. I mean how many time shave you seen a team with two high lottery picks[of itself is rare right?] and then go back to back PGs? I think what they did was shooting from the hip and now they are sitting with a major problem--just think about the fans--you cant do that to the paying fans--you cant do it. Atleast Curry can play 2 guard and really shoot it
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Posted by Pharzeone:
Posted by TMS:
Posted by eViL:
Posted by Pharzeone:

If this is all true then he has a serious personality issue. Far worse than Francis or Marbury. Francis didn't even carry on like this and Marbury went to Minny even though everyone knew he wanted to go NY. What's the difference here? Where is the criticism? oh yeah.

The difference is his little diva act might actually land him in NY and NY fans want the same thing. I think most Minny fans would share your sentiments. As a Knicks fan, I'm happy to see top prospects declaring their interest in being here.

Eli Manning pulled the same ish on the Chargers and, as a Giants fan, I couldn't care less. I'm just happy we got him. Same would go for Rubio.

personally i could care less if any player pulled this diva act with any team... this is their life they're deciding on afterall & they can do with it as they see fit to create the best situation for themselves & their families... why some fans have a problem w/that is beyond me... if he didn't want to play in NY even, i'd say to hell with him & move on... Rubio isn't the only talented player in this draft... OKL was stupid not to take him at #3 IMO cuz even tho he didn't wanna play for them they coulda just played the game & held him as a bargaining asset to get the player(s) or assets they wanted... MIN has the ability to do the same here now that they have his draft rights... players play the game of million dollar chicken & so do sports franchises all the time... it's just business.

I agree but if Khan chooses to do nothing and let him rot in Europe then that is good business too. Those draft rights aren't going nowhere and he has the luxury of having another talented point guard to play on day 1. From what I understand and from what everyone was complaining about just a few weeks ago, is that he doesn't make much money on his Euro contract. The original reason for the lawsuit. Who knows.

exactly... MIN can decide to call his bluff just like MIL did w/Yi... the Bucks had the same option to let him rot in his home country if he followed through on his threat to stay there & yet all i heard were people bashing Yi for trying to pull some kinda power play when he hasn't proven himself yet... the Bucks ignored the risk of taking him & instead of trying to trade him like they should have done while his value was high to bring in assets that they could use, they decided to call his bluff & hold onto him... in the end everyone was appeased as he got traded to NJ later but u can't blame either side for looking out for their own best interests... MIN is doing the same thing here w/Rubio... if they feel it's in their best interest to trade him then i'm sure Kahn will look into it... otherwise they have to be willing to risk Rubio not coming here to play at all... they knew the risks & they disregarded them so they obviously have a plan in place to proceed w/this situation... otherwise they're just plain retarded to have wasted assets like Miller & Foye to move up for a player who they knew might not even wanna play for them to begin with.

[Edited by - TMS on 06-26-2009 4:41 PM]
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Posted by martin:
Posted by Pharzeone:
Posted by TMS:
Posted by eViL:
Posted by Pharzeone:

If this is all true then he has a serious personality issue. Far worse than Francis or Marbury. Francis didn't even carry on like this and Marbury went to Minny even though everyone knew he wanted to go NY. What's the difference here? Where is the criticism? oh yeah.

The difference is his little diva act might actually land him in NY and NY fans want the same thing. I think most Minny fans would share your sentiments. As a Knicks fan, I'm happy to see top prospects declaring their interest in being here.

Eli Manning pulled the same ish on the Chargers and, as a Giants fan, I couldn't care less. I'm just happy we got him. Same would go for Rubio.

personally i could care less if any player pulled this diva act with any team... this is their life they're deciding on afterall & they can do with it as they see fit to create the best situation for themselves & their families... why some fans have a problem w/that is beyond me... if he didn't want to play in NY even, i'd say to hell with him & move on... Rubio isn't the only talented player in this draft... OKL was stupid not to take him at #3 IMO cuz even tho he didn't wanna play for them they coulda just played the game & held him as a bargaining asset to get the player(s) or assets they wanted... MIN has the ability to do the same here now that they have his draft rights... players play the game of million dollar chicken & so do sports franchises all the time... it's just business.

I agree but if Khan chooses to do nothing and let him rot in Europe then that is good business too. Those draft rights aren't going nowhere and he has the luxury of having another talented point guard to play on day 1. From what I understand and from what everyone was complaining about just a few weeks ago, is that he doesn't make much money on his Euro contract. The original reason for the lawsuit. Who knows.

wrong.

Why is it wrong. The idea behind the lawsuit was to forced buyout negogiations. He wasn't making enough to just pay it out right. His pay scale wasn't on the same level of the buyout. There go, he wasn't making enough money accordingly. Notice I didn't say the grounds for his lawsuit at no time.

Rubio has challenged the 4.75 million Euro (approximately $6.6 million) buyout, which climbs to 5.75 million Euros after June 30. Rubio made 70,000 Euros last season (about $97,000) and is scheduled to make 125,000 Euros next season (about $175,000). Rubio's father Esteban told ESPN's Chad Nielsen on Monday that the buyout is disproportionate to his salary.
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Posted by TMS:
Posted by Pharzeone:
Posted by TMS:
Posted by eViL:
Posted by Pharzeone:

If this is all true then he has a serious personality issue. Far worse than Francis or Marbury. Francis didn't even carry on like this and Marbury went to Minny even though everyone knew he wanted to go NY. What's the difference here? Where is the criticism? oh yeah.

The difference is his little diva act might actually land him in NY and NY fans want the same thing. I think most Minny fans would share your sentiments. As a Knicks fan, I'm happy to see top prospects declaring their interest in being here.

Eli Manning pulled the same ish on the Chargers and, as a Giants fan, I couldn't care less. I'm just happy we got him. Same would go for Rubio.

personally i could care less if any player pulled this diva act with any team... this is their life they're deciding on afterall & they can do with it as they see fit to create the best situation for themselves & their families... why some fans have a problem w/that is beyond me... if he didn't want to play in NY even, i'd say to hell with him & move on... Rubio isn't the only talented player in this draft... OKL was stupid not to take him at #3 IMO cuz even tho he didn't wanna play for them they coulda just played the game & held him as a bargaining asset to get the player(s) or assets they wanted... MIN has the ability to do the same here now that they have his draft rights... players play the game of million dollar chicken & so do sports franchises all the time... it's just business.

I agree but if Khan chooses to do nothing and let him rot in Europe then that is good business too. Those draft rights aren't going nowhere and he has the luxury of having another talented point guard to play on day 1. From what I understand and from what everyone was complaining about just a few weeks ago, is that he doesn't make much money on his Euro contract. The original reason for the lawsuit. Who knows.

exactly... MIN can decide to call his bluff just like MIL did w/Yi... the Bucks had the same option to let him rot in his home country if he followed through on his threat to stay there & yet all i heard were people bashing Yi for trying to pull some kinda power play when he hasn't proven himself yet... the Bucks ignored the risk of taking him & instead of trying to trade him like they should have done while his value was high to bring in assets that they could use, they decided to call his bluff & hold onto him... in the end everyone was appeased as he got traded to NJ later but u can't blame either side for looking out for their own best interests... MIN is doing the same thing here w/Rubio... if they feel it's in their best interest to trade him then i'm sure Kahn will look into it... otherwise they have to be willing to risk Rubio not coming here to play at all... they knew the risks & they disregarded them so they obviously have a plan in place to proceed w/this situation... otherwise they're just plain retarded to have wasted assets like Miller & Foye to move up for a player who they knew might not even wanna play for them to begin with.

[Edited by - TMS on 06-26-2009 4:41 PM]

If you believe Khan, he said he is willing to wait out the contract. Like I said the Blazers held on to Sarbonis' draft rights for a decade. So who knows.
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