I've grown up on the Knicks. I've seen many of their games from the 80's 90's, regular season and playoffs. On TV live, VHS, DVD, whatever. I've seen a lot. I don't know what is so funny about that line. I think you're better off sticking to the wise guy know it all act than you are with laughing at something that doesn't make sense or isn't funny. Bone spur still a major injury there cowboy? Keep laughing.

Posted by GKFv2:

I've grown up on the Knicks. I've seen many of their games from the 80's 90's, regular season and playoffs. On TV live, VHS, DVD, whatever. I've seen a lot. I don't know what is so funny about that line. I think you're better off sticking to the wise guy know it all act than you are with laughing at something that doesn't make sense or isn't funny. Bone spur still a major injury there cowboy? Keep laughing.

First off. Grow up. I wasn't refering to you but the line itself. I could care less about your life story or credibility as a Knick fan. Pointless to me. Just for some reason the line came off as a classic schooling moment. Something that old players say to young bucks.

Posted by GKFv2:

Posted by Pharzeone:

Posted by GKFv2:

I've grown up on the Knicks. I've seen many of their games from the 80's 90's, regular season and playoffs. On TV live, VHS, DVD, whatever. I've seen a lot. I don't know what is so funny about that line. I think you're better off sticking to the wise guy know it all act than you are with laughing at something that doesn't make sense or isn't funny. Bone spur still a major injury there cowboy? Keep laughing.

First off. Grow up. I wasn't refering to you but the line itself. I could care less about your life story or credibility as a Knick fan. Pointless to me. Just for some reason the line came off as a classic schooling moment. Something that old players say to young bucks.

Nice. If you made that clear then there wouldn't need to be a comment now, would there? That line was pointless to me too. Something people who have nothing left to say pull out when they are desperate. It was quite lame but not surprising.


Anyway, back to Oakley as coach. Hire the man. At the very least he will beat the hell out of somebody in practice and Lord knows some of these guys need it.

Yea, that should be our guiding criteria; which coach can inflict the most physical harm to our players in practice.

Guys like Oak are in a different category than guys like, say, Mark Jackson or Nate McMillian. The latter two were more cerebral in nature, as players, and this is why they are more likely to transfer over into decent coaches. I love Oak as much as the next guy, but there is a reason he played the way he did and there is a reason he hasn't coached in the league yet. Sometimes you just gotta let go; can't make every former player you used to looooooove a coach, man!

By the way, better Oakley than Herb. It's been over 6 years and he can't point to one big man that he made better defensively under his tutorledge.

Remember when Herb was supposed to be the successor to Larry Brown? LOL.

I know Chuck Daley said his assistants were why he was successful. I know Riley really wanted JVG to go to Miami and I know Lawerence Frank was only a ball boy or manager at Indiana but has been a very good head coach after time as an assistant. I think most good assistants live and breath basketball and are constantly trying to figure out ways to improve their team or beat another team. I think the good assistants are extremely passionate and often times were not marquee players. I don't think Herb is irreplacable and I don't think he has the passion that some of the better assistants have. I do think part of Herb's job is to be the coach that is easy for the players to communicate with and that is very important. Herb is competent but I don't think he is anywhere near the top of his craft. At times Herb appears to be the David Wingate of the coaching profession.

Posted by Marv:

how many times have we seen great players suck at coaching? no guarantees oakley will have anything to show for his efforts as a coach.

Thanks Marv, I haven't seen much indication that great players make great coaches or that tough players can teach toughness.

Herb has served under 5 head coaches now on the same team. There isn't an assistant in any sport that has that track record. He isn't an assistant, he is the team unofficial mascot. The only problem with that is that those were all losing seasons. So the question begs why is he still around when all other assistants have been fired or forced to move on.