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6/8/2009  3:25 PM
Posted by McK1:
Posted by fishmike:

Sergio is an assist machine. He destroys guys off the dribble and creates so many open looks for guys. He's all passing. He would average more assists than Nash did under MDA.

WOAH...Sergio may like to pass but unlike Nash won't teams fall back and dare him to shoot

For a guy like Sergio, he's gonna be dropping bombs in no time.
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6/8/2009  3:29 PM
Posted by orangeblobman:
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I can read spanish and from what I read, thats just another bogus rumor like many we've seen before. It doesn't state exactly how the Knicks get Sergio Rodriguez. It goes on to say the Knicks will hand him a 3 year contract extension. Just like everything we've read about Rubio to the Knicks, its all rumors and the best thing would be to wait and see.



The Spaniards wouldn't mess around like that, they're not running the Daily News over there.

If they have a hunch or a hint or something, better believe it's with reason. Plus, Sergio likely vacations in Spain in the off-season...with it being his home and all.

It has happened a lot in recent history, even more with international media. It may have some truth to it but its really unlikely the Knicks have a draft deal in place for Sergio unless something bigger is in the works. With a point-guard heavy draft, having the 8th pick and having a chance to buy another pick, the options are too many for the Knicks to be set unless a big deal will happen.


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6/8/2009  3:32 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by fishmike:

Sergio is an assist machine. He destroys guys off the dribble and creates so many open looks for guys. He's all passing. He would average more assists than Nash did under MDA. Would this mean we are trading down to get him? I this alot either way.

Also, wasnt he the guy that destroyed the US and everyone else when Spain won the Gold in the world champs 3 years ago?

Finally, if this happens I REALLY like that we targeted a guy we WANTED. The draft is a crap shoot and so is pick 8. Maybe you get the guy you want, maybe you dont. If MDA and Walsh look at the NBA tape and say this is the guy we want I like this move even more.

Give Gordat the MLE and let Lee walk or sign and trade we got better upfront and in the backcourt. Its a start

I don't think pick 8 is going to be included unless we are getting back something else from them. As DJ said before, I think this will end up being a future 2nd rounder and one of our trade exceptions.

Probably and if thats the case, its a great deal.


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6/8/2009  3:41 PM

Sometimes small moves add up. Sergio is no savior, but in the right system he is a more valuable asset to us than others.

Maybe he don't fit there, and nate don't fit here.
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6/8/2009  4:16 PM
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Nalod - there is only one savior and that is Lebron, and even he isn't a full-fledged savior just yet. Last I checked he was gone fishing...

with that said, compare the pre-draft scouting reports on Rubio and Sergio and you will find they are strikingly similar.

There are no saviors, just better quality basketball players. Expect Charlotte to make a strong move to keep Stephen Curry in his home state. The Knicks bringing in solid citizen Toney Douglas speaks volumes about a strategy strengthening the depth with lower picks.

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6/8/2009  4:33 PM
Wasn't Darko suppose to be Knick by now, last year the European rumors had Knicks picking up Darko. That never came to fruition. I just don't buy into this rumor to much. Knicks should just try and get a deal to move up and get Curry or Rubio.
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6/8/2009  4:51 PM
Posted by misterearl:

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Nalod - there is only one savior and that is Lebron, and even he isn't a full-fledged savior just yet. Last I checked he was gone fishing...

with that said, compare the pre-draft scouting reports on Rubio and Sergio and you will find they are strikingly similar.

There are no saviors, just better quality basketball players. Expect Charlotte to make a strong move to keep Stephen Curry in his home state. The Knicks bringing in solid citizen Toney Douglas speaks volumes about a strategy strengthening the depth with lower picks.

El Chacho, The Mayor, The Rooster .... me likey.


Our savior has to be plug in a guy like Sergio and he becomes Nash and we rave what a freaking genious walsh and MDA are!

I like "small moves add up" and while its hard to value what we have, and what is "Potential" out there, its smart business.

This draft is getting a lot of hype in the media, as it does each year.

If Walsh wants to sell the pick and bottom feed on mining for gold on the bottom Im ok with that too.

It does not get the headlines as block busters do, but it can be effective.
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6/8/2009  5:23 PM
I would like to acquire Rodriguez but not for the 8th pick. Maybe something could be worked out after the draft like a re-signed Nate for something like Sergio and players we tell Kevin Pritchard to draft for us at #24 & #33 or #38. I think that's fair. They get Nate who's been productive so far in his career - more productive than Sergio. They bring Nate home to the northwest to team up once again with Brandon Roy (Webster's a Seattle guy too. I think they're all good friends - a move for Nate could improve team chemistry in Portland in a big way, not that it's terrible to begin with). The Knicks get out from under a Nate contract, get Sergio (admittedly, I'd love to see what he could do under D'Antoni, even continuing in a reserve role) and with #24 and #33 or #38, we add a Taj Gibson and a guy like Jack McClinton who I'm hearing MDA is interested in anyway, per Tommy Dee. Or maybe we expand a deal to include David Lee, a guy they could use and a guy pritchard's had his eye on for a long time now. Pick #8 is a little too steep to included in any of this IMHO...
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6/8/2009  5:25 PM
Posted by Finestrg:

I would like to acquire Rodriguez but not for the 8th pick. Maybe something could be worked out after the draft like a re-signed Nate for something like Sergio and players we tell Kevin Pritchard to draft for us at #24 & #33 or #38. I think that's fair. They get Nate who's been productive so far in his career - more productive than Sergio. They bring Nate home to the northwest to team up once again with Brandon Roy (Webster's a Seattle guy too. I think they're all good friends - a move for Nate could improve team chemistry in Portland in a big way, not that it's terrible to begin with). The Knicks get out from under a Nate contract, get Sergio (admittedly, I'd love to see what he could do under D'Antoni, even continuing in a reserve role) and with #24 and #33 or #38, we add a Taj Gibson and a guy like Jack McClinton who I'm hearing MDA is interested in anyway, per Tommy Dee. Or maybe we expand a deal to include David Lee, a guy they could use and a guy pritchard's had his eye on for a long time now. Pick #8 is a little too steep to included in any of this IMHO...

Finest, I don't know where you keep getting this thing that he's being traded for the 8th pick. This trade is probably going to be a 2nd round and a trade exception.

OR if the 8th pick is included, it will be because we are getting back something else like Outlaw or Webster and picks. I think the 2nd rounder and trade exception is much more likely though.
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6/8/2009  5:46 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by Finestrg:

I would like to acquire Rodriguez but not for the 8th pick. Maybe something could be worked out after the draft like a re-signed Nate for something like Sergio and players we tell Kevin Pritchard to draft for us at #24 & #33 or #38. I think that's fair. They get Nate who's been productive so far in his career - more productive than Sergio. They bring Nate home to the northwest to team up once again with Brandon Roy (Webster's a Seattle guy too. I think they're all good friends - a move for Nate could improve team chemistry in Portland in a big way, not that it's terrible to begin with). The Knicks get out from under a Nate contract, get Sergio (admittedly, I'd love to see what he could do under D'Antoni, even continuing in a reserve role) and with #24 and #33 or #38, we add a Taj Gibson and a guy like Jack McClinton who I'm hearing MDA is interested in anyway, per Tommy Dee. Or maybe we expand a deal to include David Lee, a guy they could use and a guy pritchard's had his eye on for a long time now. Pick #8 is a little too steep to included in any of this IMHO...

Finest, I don't know where you keep getting this thing that he's being traded for the 8th pick. This trade is probably going to be a 2nd round and a trade exception.

OR if the 8th pick is included, it will be because we are getting back something else like Outlaw or Webster and picks. I think the 2nd rounder and trade exception is much more likely though.

I got the idea from Hahn's blog:

http://weblogs.newsday.com/sports/basketball/knicks/blog/2009/06/srod_rumor_emerges_from_spain.html

Who knows bro. Hahn since lined-out most of his blog now so who knows what to make of any of this.

[Edited by - finestrg on 06-08-2009 5:52 PM]
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6/8/2009  5:47 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by Finestrg:

I would like to acquire Rodriguez but not for the 8th pick. Maybe something could be worked out after the draft like a re-signed Nate for something like Sergio and players we tell Kevin Pritchard to draft for us at #24 & #33 or #38. I think that's fair. They get Nate who's been productive so far in his career - more productive than Sergio. They bring Nate home to the northwest to team up once again with Brandon Roy (Webster's a Seattle guy too. I think they're all good friends - a move for Nate could improve team chemistry in Portland in a big way, not that it's terrible to begin with). The Knicks get out from under a Nate contract, get Sergio (admittedly, I'd love to see what he could do under D'Antoni, even continuing in a reserve role) and with #24 and #33 or #38, we add a Taj Gibson and a guy like Jack McClinton who I'm hearing MDA is interested in anyway, per Tommy Dee. Or maybe we expand a deal to include David Lee, a guy they could use and a guy pritchard's had his eye on for a long time now. Pick #8 is a little too steep to included in any of this IMHO...

Finest, I don't know where you keep getting this thing that he's being traded for the 8th pick. This trade is probably going to be a 2nd round and a trade exception.

OR if the 8th pick is included, it will be because we are getting back something else like Outlaw or Webster and picks. I think the 2nd rounder and trade exception is much more likely though.
If there were any indication we were giving up the 8th pick in the draft in this deal, that would be MAJOR news and I'm sure the Spanish paper would have reported it. I think it's safe to assume that whatever deal was reported to this paper did not include our pick.
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6/8/2009  5:48 PM
I don't think the eighth pick is not being moved for Sergio. The rumor I read is that the Blazers are trying to cut cost and the eighth pick will make more $$$$ than Sergio makes. Doesn't make sense unless the Blazers give another player up for the eighth pick too.
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6/8/2009  6:21 PM
"This draft is getting a lot of hype in the media, as it does each year."

True

With 2010 as a target for respectability, Danilo Gallinari could be the Knicks last draft selection for two years. Look for the Knicks to trade next years first round draft pick.

Donnie could look at the reports and decide that S-Rod provides the backcourt skill set that Nate cannot.

Then it really gets interesting.
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6/8/2009  6:26 PM
Darko was closer to being a Knicks that Sergio has ever been.

BTW, you know Sergio?

A shortish.. tallish.. heavy set thin guy?


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6/8/2009  6:37 PM
Ahaha that's from the commercial, right?

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6/8/2009  8:11 PM
BTW Hahn says no deal is in place so IDK if this is true.
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couple of things, Newsday squashed this as just a rumor. The Knicks are interested, but no deal is in place.

Second, I dont know how anybody can justify giving up a #8 for this guy. Yeah, like Wesley Snipes said in White Men can jump, Sergio can pull a few passes out of his ass, but he couldnt throw a tennis ball into the ocean from a rowboat and he cant even guard a stop sign.
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Posted by sebstar:

couple of things, Newsday squashed this as just a rumor. The Knicks are interested, but no deal is in place.

Second, I dont know how anybody can justify giving up a #8 for this guy. Yeah, like Wesley Snipes said in White Men can jump, Sergio can pull a few passes out of his ass, but he couldnt throw a tennis ball into the ocean from a rowboat and he cant even guard a stop sign.

from my few viewings of the guy, we f'g better not give up the #8 for him.
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6/8/2009  9:48 PM
Posted by Marv:
Posted by sebstar:

couple of things, Newsday squashed this as just a rumor. The Knicks are interested, but no deal is in place.

Second, I dont know how anybody can justify giving up a #8 for this guy. Yeah, like Wesley Snipes said in White Men can jump, Sergio can pull a few passes out of his ass, but he couldnt throw a tennis ball into the ocean from a rowboat and he cant even guard a stop sign.

from my few viewings of the guy, we f'g better not give up the #8 for him.

If the Knicks give up the 8th for Sergio then they would have put themselves back by a couple of years again. This would be like the Dice trade revisited. With that said if this trade is for real then it has to do with something else like a second round pick or some sort of S&T scenario.

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6/8/2009  10:22 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:
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NYK, we do that and now you're cooking with gas.

Combine all of the latest rumors and you've got

El Chacho - Outlaw - The Mayor - The Rooster - Gortat

Derozan - Beaubois - Duhon - Al Jr - Hughes - Darko - Jeffries

That's an explosive team at least.

A couple more guys with nicknames and we'd be set.

LOL.

Thats a quality group of young players to hopefully pair with someone like LeBron.

Seriously, LOL
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