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Did Donnie fool us all with the Mobley deal?
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6/4/2009  5:36 PM
Posted by s3231:

And this is why we are very lucky to have a good basketball executive in charge that also happens to be a lawyer.

Donnie knows the CBA as well as anyone and I'm sure he is looking for ways to make good use of Mobley's contract. Whether that is using the contract to get an additional pick or trying to move up in the draft is anyone's guess.


Walsh is a lawyer by trade and has been practicing basketball law for +25 years.

All the turkey's on this board who call Donnie old or washed up have no idea the bank of knowledge locked up in that noggin.

From a legalize perspective we probably have the best in the business....not as confident on his trade and draft pick history but overall we couldn't be in better hands.
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6/4/2009  5:38 PM
Posted by SupremeCommander:

maybe he did fool us, maybe he didn't... the deal that pisses me off is the deal he passed on, when he could have packaged Nate with Jeffries and sent them to Sac

Just wait it out brother -- it's not like Nate had a bad year and the Kings are still just as desperate as they were back at the deadline. He'll spin something off - wait and watch....if it's not Nate and Jefferies it will be something better.

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6/4/2009  5:41 PM
Posted by LivingLegend:
Posted by SupremeCommander:

maybe he did fool us, maybe he didn't... the deal that pisses me off is the deal he passed on, when he could have packaged Nate with Jeffries and sent them to Sac

Just wait it out brother -- it's not like Nate had a bad year and the Kings are still just as desperate as they were back at the deadline. He'll spin something off - wait and watch....if it's not Nate and Jefferies it will be something better.

I kind of feel the same way in regards to there being another deal to be had yet at the same time we could get bit twice by having to pay Nate one way or another and still being stuck with Jeffries.

I really like Nate but he has still proven that he is not mature and is not a starter despite all his abilities. In that I think, if something other than just Kenny Thomas was coming back in the deal, that it was worth it to lose Nate to dump Jeffries.

I still think Donnie will get it done but it may come down to waiting until the summer of 2011 to complete the team which is something that would occur anyway IMO for I don't really believe that we would be able to woo two max FAs and build the team in one fell swoop.
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6/4/2009  5:48 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by s3231:

And this is why we are very lucky to have a good basketball executive in charge that also happens to be a lawyer.

Donnie knows the CBA as well as anyone and I'm sure he is looking for ways to make good use of Mobley's contract. Whether that is using the contract to get an additional pick or trying to move up in the draft is anyone's guess.

Amen.. if this were Isiah he would have resigned Mobley to a 3 year 30 million dollar extension by now.

With a player option for an additional 3 years.
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6/4/2009  5:59 PM
Posted by Panos:
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by s3231:

And this is why we are very lucky to have a good basketball executive in charge that also happens to be a lawyer.

Donnie knows the CBA as well as anyone and I'm sure he is looking for ways to make good use of Mobley's contract. Whether that is using the contract to get an additional pick or trying to move up in the draft is anyone's guess.

Amen.. if this were Isiah he would have resigned Mobley to a 3 year 30 million dollar extension by now.

With a player option for an additional 3 years.

Don't forget the mandatory trade kicker.....
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6/4/2009  6:47 PM
Was covered on the Outside the Line story piece on Mobley a couple of weeks ago. The conclusion was that the Knicks knew of Mobley's health issue before the trade and was hinted that the condition didn't change just that the Knicks alerted Mobley that the condition could be more serious than the Rockets and Clippers led him to believe. Once ESPN went back to Walsh with that piece of info, Walsh refused to give any follow up info about Mobley. The NBA denied Mobley's medical exemption based on the belief that the Knicks were fully aware of his condition prior to the trade.

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=4202527&categoryid=2459788
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6/4/2009  6:56 PM
Posted by Pharzeone:

Was covered on the Outside the Line story piece on Mobley a couple of weeks ago. The conclusion was that the Knicks knew of Mobley's health issue before the trade and was hinted that the condition didn't change just that the Knicks alerted Mobley that the condition could be more serious than the Rockets and Clippers led him to believe. Once ESPN went back to Walsh with that piece of info, Walsh refused to give any follow up info about Mobley. The NBA denied Mobley's medical exemption based on the belief that the Knicks were fully aware of his condition prior to the trade.

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=4202527&categoryid=2459788

Even if true I still don't see all the uproar over the trade - or - how the Knicks "(mis)handled" Mobley.

It was a good trade for our future and always will be a good trade for our future. It could have been a good trade for the short term but it did not pan out and the short term is a completely isolated era from our long term goals.

I liked the deal then and I like it now. I just don't understand the controversy.
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6/4/2009  8:19 PM
Posted by SupremeCommander:

maybe he did fool us, maybe he didn't... the deal that pisses me off is the deal he passed on, when he could have packaged Nate with Jeffries and sent them to Sac

i would've much rather he traded Nate for a mid 1st round pick... that would have given us a realistic means to move up in this draft & have a guaranteed shot at pretty much anyone else other than Griffin in this draft.
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6/5/2009  2:36 PM
Posted by martin:
Posted by purple012870:

I think its more like Darko + # 2 for Mobley + # 8.

right, and the Knicks can throw in an additional $3M. that's $10M savings for a team. That's f'ing HUGE.

If Memphis is considering Curry like it has been reported, then this deal has a lot of life and possibility.

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6/5/2009  3:36 PM
Hey, I'll take Darko. Have wanted him for years here. He brings shot blocking and as an added bonus, I really feel that this guy can develop into an almost-allstar. He is 24 and has been treated like crap so far by his coaches, namely and mainly by Larry Brown-- a horrible situation to start an NBA career in, even more so if you are internatinoal.

Under MDA, Darko will blossom into a possible 14/9/3 block presence and could displace David Lee in the future, or play along side Lee. Kudos.
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6/5/2009  6:22 PM
Posted by orangeblobman:

Hey, I'll take Darko. Have wanted him for years here. He brings shot blocking and as an added bonus, I really feel that this guy can develop into an almost-allstar. He is 24 and has been treated like crap so far by his coaches, namely and mainly by Larry Brown-- a horrible situation to start an NBA career in, even more so if you are internatinoal.

Under MDA, Darko will blossom into a possible 14/9/3 block presence and could displace David Lee in the future, or play along side Lee. Kudos.

here's another side of darko - i wont post the actual you tube out of respect for our UK site's PG13 nature, but here's the link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ci3j363HWQM&feature=related

let me know if you still want him after you see it...

[Edited by - jimimou on 06-05-2009 6:22 PM]
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6/5/2009  7:38 PM
That was an unbelievable outburst! I think that takes the prize for the worst postgame statement ever given! Even when some coaches have gone off and thrown F Bombs, nothing has sunk to the low levels that Darko went to in his statements. Just totally unprofessional.

Still I don't think that would stop a GM from trading for him if they thought he would help. It makes you kind of understand why teams like the Knicks have Media guys standing by to watchout for outbursts like that.
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6/5/2009  9:23 PM
Not much character on display there. That being said, the Knicks went out and got Spree despite numerous incidents of violence including choking his coach.
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6/5/2009  11:37 PM
Darko is 24 and bonified shot blocker.....add the fact he has been playing hurt and is now healthy. The dude wants to be successful. He takes losing serious as proof by the vid.

Mobley for Darko is the ****!!! Darko is 3 clicks better than Jared. Its a no brainer. Imagine if that went down??? Imagine if Darko realizes ome of his potential as a Knick??? Booyah!!!

Btw....this is just the Mobley chip.....what about al Harrington, Q, Hughes....those guys all expire. Add a sign and trade with either Lee or Nate and pure shots will lick in the air!!!!!
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