A little before my time? No dude, no. Tony Parker was not the same player as a rookie as he is now. I can go into a detailed explanation but I don't really want to because it's not worth it. If you think Rubio should come in and be a star PG the minute he steps onto the court then your expectations are unreasonable. Just like how you view Thabeet. Unreasonable. You have your opinion and I have mine. I can't change it so arguing with you is pointless but I will say one thing: Rubio has amazing handles, he has a great basketball IQ and he is a playmaker. He doesn't have a good shot right now but that can be fixed. Nobody said he's going to average 20 PPG and we don't need him to. We need him to run an offense. He can do that.
As for seeing Rubio, yes I have although only in a few games. As I am Greek, I have seen some Euroleague games. He has all the tools to be a PG in the mold of a Steve Nash but he is still young. Way young. He will develop over time. Would I take him #1? No. Griffin all day. #2? Hell yes. There is no better prospect in this drat after Griffin than Rubio. No better prospect. That includes Thabeet, Derozan, Curry, Jennings and anyone else.
It's all moot in the end as we're getting #8 or #9 anyway.
First of all I did not say Parker was the same player he was now. But he was pretty damn good from day 1 and he has been a star for 5 years.
You're trying to hand me a position about Rubio that I did not take. I just don't see why everyone is so excited about Rubio. Rubio is nice player? Probably. He has mad handles? I watched Kenny Anderson. He had mad handles, could shoot like crazy and he was picked #2 at 19 years old. Ditto Marbury. I'll guess they were both more promising than Rubio at the same age.
We all know a lot less about Rubio than we do those 2 guys. We also except he doesn't shoot very well to go with his nice passing and slick handle. That doesn't spell a top 3 pick in my book. But I haven't watched him that much, and we are all speaking mainly from newspaper reports.
My view of Thabeet is not unreasonable. I think yours is however when you compare his athleticism to Yao Ming. Thabeet is 7'3", athletic, and big, strong, coordinated with an unbelievable wingspan. He averaged 4 blocks throughout his career in the Big East. All while he is still learning to play the game. We already know what he can do. We've all actually seen him play. He is a known quantity and we know that physically he will be one of the more talented players in the game and has the potential to be a true defensive stopper and a big-time rebounder.
I like that prospect better than a rumor about how good some young kid is. Seems like a dangerous way to spend a pick.
And nobody knows where the Knicks will pick. If Chicago and Portland can land high picks against the odds so can we.
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