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Scola or Lee who would you rather have?
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orangeblobman
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5/12/2009  10:03 AM
biedrins blocks some shots, i think.

funny you bring up lee shooting threes. i think that this is something he can and should work on. imagine if he can knock down some treys next year? whole new dimension to our club.
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5/12/2009  10:05 AM
Posted by TMS:
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Posted by GKFv2:
Posted by Pharzeone:
Posted by King1:

Dont go there because head to head davide destroys a lot of people and get no credit for it. Every game they have played Lee has guarded Ming also.

?? Ming didn't play, he was injured. In the one game that Yao played he was still hurt and Scola handle Lee defensively for most of the game. Don't you go there because you better know the facts first. Scola played Lee up front and outplayed him. As noted in the gamethreads with quotes like "Damn Scola is killing Lee." I know I posted that a few times. Scola has always outperformed Lee in games even when they were both playing at the 4 spot last year while Curry was at center or Randolph.


Who are this bunch of white people? Is this Rodeo?

i believe that's Renaldo Balkman's family reunion pic.

or the curling world championship haha
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5/12/2009  11:03 AM
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by King1:

So Lee is better than Biedrins since he dropped 35/21 on him and he had 65 double/double this year so no one really killed him.

Do you realize there's more to evaluating a player than simply looking at PPG and RPG?

Who would you rather have, King1, Lee or Pau? If you go by just PPG and RPG, it's a pretty close matchup but you'd have to go with Lee.
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5/12/2009  11:21 AM
Gasol is a much better player but he would get roasted in New york because he isnt a thug with zero offensive skills. Gasol is too soft to play inside to UK fans. Lee was the first option on offense this year and still had a great year. BTW he wasnt the worst defensive player on the team. Please look at see what no name perimter players did against us
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5/12/2009  12:56 PM
What separates Lee from his peers is physical toughness. Lee will not be out worked but he will be bullied and embarrassed on the defense. If the guy took charges, and defended the lane nobody would be complaining.....

And you are right about the perimeter guys not doing their job.....but you are taking away the fact that Lee lets everybody sail inside uncontested. Not just guards. Everybody. Lee's idea of playing defense is showing his "Jazz hands".

Since you know David personally....hit him up and tell him that. We all appreciate what he brings but truth be told he would get bullied in the playoffs that we are watching this year.

I wish the Knicks had real vets around David when he came in to show him what I mean. You know King, I appreciate your contribution to the forum...but you sound like a yes man. Why don't you be real and admit the dudes flaws and since you coached him and are in contact still, let him know what he needs to do instead of gassing his head up.

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5/12/2009  1:01 PM
what does jazz hands mean? and who knows david lee personally? can i get an autographed mini-basketball?
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5/12/2009  3:34 PM
Posted by orangeblobman:

what does jazz hands mean? and who knows david lee personally? can i get an autographed mini-basketball?

King1 knows D.Lee...and asking for autographs ain't cool bro, lol.

Dude you don't know what "jazz hands" are? Google it. I'll see if I can find a pic but I'm on my phone so I gotta do it manually.
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5/12/2009  4:14 PM


JAZZ HANDS!!!!
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5/12/2009  5:18 PM
Posted by King1:

Gasol is a much better player but he would get roasted in New york because he isnt a thug with zero offensive skills. Gasol is too soft to play inside to UK fans. Lee was the first option on offense this year and still had a great year. BTW he wasnt the worst defensive player on the team. Please look at see what no name perimter players did against us

because he's not a thug? what does that mean King? u don't think "thugs" have been roasted in NY over the years? what's a thug to you? was Zach Randolph a thug or no? Marbury? i'm not sure i know what you're talking about, cuz neither of those guys played any defense but both guys were roasted in NY & neither guy was soft... Allan Houston was considered soft by many but he was pretty well liked in NY... Charlie Ward wasn't exactly "thuglike" but he was 1 of my favorites... ur oversimplyfing Knick fans & generalizing w/no real evidence to support ur claims here... people LIKE David Lee in NY... get it? they like him... they cheer for the dude at every game... people only wanna trade him because of the cap ramifications... it's OK to point out a players' weaknesses & faults... that doesn't mean u can't stand those players... u really gotta take a step back & try not to take everything so personal.
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5/13/2009  12:16 AM
Posted by King1:

Scola is the fourth option other teams first option was to stop Lee this year on the high pick and roll and he still got 16 a game. If we had a guy that could have knocked down threes they would have had a field day

What the hell are you smoking and just how much? Let me get this straight. Are you saying teams were game planning for Lee and not for Harrington, Nate, Crawford or Randolph? Are you telling me that Lee commanded double teams from other teams this past season or any other season since his arrival? Come back to reality. How no one else didn't call you on this is insane.
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5/13/2009  12:35 AM
Posted by Pharzeone:
Posted by King1:

Scola is the fourth option other teams first option was to stop Lee this year on the high pick and roll and he still got 16 a game. If we had a guy that could have knocked down threes they would have had a field day

What the hell are you smoking and just how much? Let me get this straight. Are you saying teams were game planning for Lee and not for Harrington, Nate, Crawford or Randolph? Are you telling me that Lee commanded double teams from other teams this past season or any other season since his arrival? Come back to reality. How no one else didn't call you on this is insane.


We call him out on it all the time...he keeps saying it, lol
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5/13/2009  7:09 AM
Posted by EnySpree:
Posted by orangeblobman:

what does jazz hands mean? and who knows david lee personally? can i get an autographed mini-basketball?

King1 knows D.Lee...and asking for autographs ain't cool bro, lol.

Dude you don't know what "jazz hands" are? Google it. I'll see if I can find a pic but I'm on my phone so I gotta do it manually.

king1 rulez then. i was joking about the auto.

jazz hands are funny. david lee with jazz hands hahahahaha..king1 should tell him that so he can change his jazz hands into man hands.

and we are forgetting that lee can be one of the best in the league
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5/13/2009  12:09 PM
How many players get face guarded so they dont get a rebound on our team? The reason we got wide open three is because teams tried to stop the pick and roll and that left the wing wide open. A team is going to let a guy that shoots 40-45 percent beat them before a guy that shoots over 50%. Lee was the best player on a team that improved this year and they will make the playoffs next year
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5/13/2009  1:23 PM
Posted by King1:

How many players get face guarded so they dont get a rebound on our team? The reason we got wide open three is because teams tried to stop the pick and roll and that left the wing wide open. A team is going to let a guy that shoots 40-45 percent beat them before a guy that shoots over 50%. Lee was the best player on a team that improved this year and they will make the playoffs next year

You can tell that garbage to your new fellow posters on www.ultimategrizzlies.com. Maybe they will actually believe you before the season starts.
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5/13/2009  5:41 PM
I never got the single player fanboys. I've seen ones for Crawford and even Balkman and now I see one for Lee. I root for the jersey, not the player. And I'm not blind to see that David Lee just isn't that good. Are we sure there isn't some kind of family relation between King and David Lee?
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5/13/2009  6:49 PM
Well it will be funny when MDA and Walsh resign Lee and proclaim him a building block of the franchise and I can listen to all you bitch when Nate is playing for a MLE in Sacramento and Lee is getting 10 per year in NYC.
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5/13/2009  6:52 PM
won't be funny... it'll be a sad day when that happens.
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5/13/2009  8:23 PM
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won't be funny... it'll be a sad day when that happens.

Exactly. King is just looking out for his boy and not the franchise. That's why he'll be "laughing".
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5/13/2009  9:42 PM
Posted by King1:

Well it will be funny when MDA and Walsh resign Lee and proclaim him a building block of the franchise and I can listen to all you bitch when Nate is playing for a MLE in Sacramento and Lee is getting 10 per year in NYC.

Martin remember when you asked me about who said Lee should get $10 million per season? That guy. Right there. SMH.
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5/13/2009  11:29 PM
Posted by Pharzeone:
Posted by King1:

Well it will be funny when MDA and Walsh resign Lee and proclaim him a building block of the franchise and I can listen to all you bitch when Nate is playing for a MLE in Sacramento and Lee is getting 10 per year in NYC.

Martin remember when you asked me about who said Lee should get $10 million per season? That guy. Right there. SMH.

Right, but you used the plural, so you got to find one more
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