[ IMAGES: Images ON turn off | ACCOUNT: User Status is LOCKED why? ]

Stephen Curry interview (audio) He feels the Knicks will draft him.
Forum Index  ›  NY Knicks Forum
Page 3 of 4 ‹ Previous 1  2  3  4 Next ›
« Reply To Topic
Author Thread
Uptown
Posts: 31369
Alba Posts: 3
Joined: 4/1/2008
Member: #1883
4/29/2009  8:13 PM
Posted by holfresh:

Curry's problem will be getting separation to get his shot off at the next level...Right now he doesn't have the quickness and strength...

Walsh drafting this guy will be a second gamble in consecutive years...MDA and Walsh will be putting their cred on the line if they draft this guy...Gonna be interesting...

Its only a gamble if you believe there is someone with as much or more potential than Curry when we pick. If we are picking 8th or below, I dont see how anyone can argue the pick.
AUTOADVERT
nixluva
Posts: 56258
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 10/5/2004
Member: #758
USA
4/30/2009  12:06 AM
Posted by holfresh:

Curry's problem will be getting separation to get his shot off at the next level...Right now he doesn't have the quickness and strength...

Walsh drafting this guy will be a second gamble in consecutive years...MDA and Walsh will be putting their cred on the line if they draft this guy...Gonna be interesting...

Getting separation isn't about quickness. It's about deception and change of speed. Curry is one of those guys that only needs a split second of daylight to get his shot off. You can bet that with a shot like his MDA will find a way to make that a super weapon. TONS of picks! So he probably won't be able to blow by guys at the next level, but there's other ways of getting open or getting by your man and I think Curry is smart enough to use those skills. The problem I see would be on D against super athletes like Rondo or Rose. Then again Nash isn't exactly a defensive force either and who wouldn't want to have the rest of his game. As long as Curry can play solid team defense I think we'll be able to cover. I mean does he have worse lateral quickness than MR MVP Nash?
Ira
Posts: 24692
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 8/14/2001
Member: #91
4/30/2009  7:24 AM
One of the things that encourages me about Curry is that two of his weaknesses are correctable. People criticize his ball handling - that can be worked on and improved. People correctly point out that he needs to get stronger. He already acknowledged that, said he's working on it and has begun to see progress.

As far as his quickness goes, he'll always be a little lacking there, but if he wasn't there's no way we'd get him at 8. His shot, his basketball intelligence and his team first attitude and will to win are big positives and make him a viable option at 8.
Cookdcokehop
Posts: 22452
Alba Posts: 7
Joined: 3/25/2005
Member: #880
USA
5/2/2009  5:24 PM
Posted by Ira:

One of the things that encourages me about Curry is that two of his weaknesses are correctable. People criticize his ball handling - that can be worked on and improved. People correctly point out that he needs to get stronger. He already acknowledged that, said he's working on it and has begun to see progress.

As far as his quickness goes, he'll always be a little lacking there, but if he wasn't there's no way we'd get him at 8. His shot, his basketball intelligence and his team first attitude and will to win are big positives and make him a viable option at 8.

Can we correct his height? or athleticism? Donnie Walsh will not draft this man. College basketball is WAY slower than the NBA, so it's difficult to translate his college game to the NBA gsme. It takes more than B-ball IQ to play in the modern NBA. Maybe in the 60's but not now. Curry has J.J. Redick written all over him.
30andOverClub
Posts: 20108
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 3/1/2005
Member: #876
5/2/2009  11:11 PM
Posted by Cookdcokehop:
Posted by Ira:

One of the things that encourages me about Curry is that two of his weaknesses are correctable. People criticize his ball handling - that can be worked on and improved. People correctly point out that he needs to get stronger. He already acknowledged that, said he's working on it and has begun to see progress.

As far as his quickness goes, he'll always be a little lacking there, but if he wasn't there's no way we'd get him at 8. His shot, his basketball intelligence and his team first attitude and will to win are big positives and make him a viable option at 8.

Can we correct his height? or athleticism? Donnie Walsh will not draft this man. College basketball is WAY slower than the NBA, so it's difficult to translate his college game to the NBA gsme. It takes more than B-ball IQ to play in the modern NBA. Maybe in the 60's but not now. Curry has J.J. Redick written all over him.

If college basketball is WAY slower than the NBA, that wouldn't ALL college basketball players be worse in the NBA, and not just Curry?

On another note, both Duhon and Q got plenty of open shots last year despite their major lack of speed and athleticism. If you're worried about drafting Curry, it shouldn't be because you think he won't be able to get his shot off. In D'Antoni's system, I can't see how he won't.
orangeblobman
Posts: 27269
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 3/1/2009
Member: #2539
Nauru
5/2/2009  11:18 PM
totally man

i dont know why he is to go 20 according to that poll

WE AIN'T NOWHERE WITH THIS BUM CHOKER IN CARMELO. GIVE ME STARKS'S 2-21 ANY DAY OVER THIS LACKLUSTER CLUSTEREFF.
Cookdcokehop
Posts: 22452
Alba Posts: 7
Joined: 3/25/2005
Member: #880
USA
5/2/2009  11:32 PM
Posted by 30andOverClub:
Posted by Cookdcokehop:
Posted by Ira:

One of the things that encourages me about Curry is that two of his weaknesses are correctable. People criticize his ball handling - that can be worked on and improved. People correctly point out that he needs to get stronger. He already acknowledged that, said he's working on it and has begun to see progress.

As far as his quickness goes, he'll always be a little lacking there, but if he wasn't there's no way we'd get him at 8. His shot, his basketball intelligence and his team first attitude and will to win are big positives and make him a viable option at 8.

Can we correct his height? or athleticism? Donnie Walsh will not draft this man. College basketball is WAY slower than the NBA, so it's difficult to translate his college game to the NBA gsme. It takes more than B-ball IQ to play in the modern NBA. Maybe in the 60's but not now. Curry has J.J. Redick written all over him.

If college basketball is WAY slower than the NBA, that wouldn't ALL college basketball players be worse in the NBA, and not just Curry?

On another note, both Duhon and Q got plenty of open shots last year despite their major lack of speed and athleticism. If you're worried about drafting Curry, it shouldn't be because you think he won't be able to get his shot off. In D'Antoni's system, I can't see how he won't.



Duhon and Q are role players. They got their shots off and guess what we won 33 games. I want a player that is a difference maker. No team goes into the draft with a top 10 pick with the idea to draft a role player. Stephen Curry will be a role player.
orangeblobman
Posts: 27269
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 3/1/2009
Member: #2539
Nauru
5/2/2009  11:34 PM
unless we get a top 2 pick we're not getting a superstar in the nba drafting
WE AIN'T NOWHERE WITH THIS BUM CHOKER IN CARMELO. GIVE ME STARKS'S 2-21 ANY DAY OVER THIS LACKLUSTER CLUSTEREFF.
djsunyc
Posts: 44929
Alba Posts: 42
Joined: 1/16/2004
Member: #536
5/3/2009  10:31 AM
some dude on realgm met d'antoni:
So my younger brother was playing at Fastbreak Center in Staten Island, NY. His son was playing against him and I saw him and his wife sitting in the stands with no one even recognizing him! I went over shook his hand told him i was a die hard knicks fan. I sat down next to him for about 15 mins talking about almost everything. He asked me whos the keepers on the team lol. I told him Chandler, Gallo, and u gotta calm Nate down haha. I asked him about Eddy Curry, he laughed and shook his head hahahaha. He said he is abs. huge and he said there is no way he is getting into shape. I told him please ship him out and his wife budded in and said there has to be a trade partner! haha. Then we talked about the Draft, and he said he is looking at the BPA. He realllly is high on Stephen Curry he said. I also asked about any trade rumors, he said not as of now but he will look to make the team better day by day. He said we need a superstar to build around and the pieces will fall in place.
nyk4ever
Posts: 41010
Alba Posts: 12
Joined: 1/12/2005
Member: #848
USA
5/3/2009  12:21 PM
That's pretty cool DJ, cool of MikeD to be so personable.

As I've said before about Curry. He's not my first choice, nor my second, but he's not my last choice either. This kid is a solid kid, he is the kind of kid that will absolutely work his ass off to get done what he needs to. I think he's a better PG than alot of people on this site and we already know he has that absolutely lights out jumper. We could do aloooooooooooot worse with our draft pick than Stephen Curry.
"OMG - did we just go on a two-trade-wining-streak?" -SupremeCommander
Knicksfan
Posts: 33592
Alba Posts: 27
Joined: 7/5/2004
Member: #691
USA
5/3/2009  12:43 PM
Im sure there will be more good options available when we pick regardless if its 1, 2, 3 or 8. Its always like this. There is always a star player that goes unnoticed until he's already in the NBA. There is always a top guy that drops a little for random reasons.

The good thing for us is that Donnie knows the pressure is bigger for him to make the playoffs next season because the present cast isn't that bad and a good player or two can make a difference in making it as an 8th seed. The player will be there, the Knicks have to make the right choice at the moment. Now its not the moment.


Knicks_Fan
Uptown
Posts: 31369
Alba Posts: 3
Joined: 4/1/2008
Member: #1883
5/3/2009  1:15 PM
If we are picking #8, Griffin, Derozan, Rubio, Thabeet and possibly Jennings will be gone. If this is the case, I cant knock the Knicks for taking Curry. Who is the bonafied superstar the Knicks will pass over in order to select Curry 8? The only players that may be available that I would seriously consider, are Flynn and Evans.
VDesai
Posts: 43301
Alba Posts: 44
Joined: 10/28/2003
Member: #477
USA
5/3/2009  1:39 PM
I look at Stephen Curry and I compare him with a guy like Ben Gordon- and I don't see Curry as having the physical tools to reach Gordon's ceiling. I think he will score on the NBA level but his role will be very similar to his fathers- top NBA 6th man.
SupremeCommander
Posts: 34071
Alba Posts: 35
Joined: 4/28/2006
Member: #1127
5/3/2009  2:16 PM
I think Stephen Curry is a better distributor than people are giving him credit for. He did a decent job of finding the open man... obviously that skill set is a work in progress, but in someways it would be exciting to have teach Curry from scratch. Wouldn't be my first choice, wouldn't be my last either.
DLeethal wrote: Lol Rick needs a safe space
Marv
Posts: 35540
Alba Posts: 69
Joined: 9/2/2002
Member: #315
5/3/2009  2:36 PM
how does he compare to eric gordon as a prospect coming out of college?
orangeblobman
Posts: 27269
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 3/1/2009
Member: #2539
Nauru
5/3/2009  2:44 PM
WE AIN'T NOWHERE WITH THIS BUM CHOKER IN CARMELO. GIVE ME STARKS'S 2-21 ANY DAY OVER THIS LACKLUSTER CLUSTEREFF.
SupremeCommander
Posts: 34071
Alba Posts: 35
Joined: 4/28/2006
Member: #1127
5/3/2009  3:00 PM
Posted by Marv:

how does he compare to eric gordon as a prospect coming out of college?

Eric Gordon was a top recruit with a ton of athleticism and played at Indiana. He broke his arm and his percentages dropped significantly and he still took a ton of shots. His stock fell.

Curry has a smooth stroke and high basketball IQ but plays at Davidson. His stoke is smooth and he dominated the NCAA tournament against legit competition by stringing together 40 vs Gonzaga, 30 vs Georgetown, 33 vs Wisconsin, and 25 in the 2-pt loss vs Kansas. This past season was his first as a point guard and he had 5.6 APG, which he has to play at the next level because he's 6'1" and doesn't look like an NBA player.

Curry doesn't have the physical gifts that Gordon has. I'd say he's a smarter player, and has better form on his shot. The question concern potential physical limitations and if a team is willing to teach him how to run the point.

[Edited by - supremecommander on 05-03-2009 3:03 PM]
DLeethal wrote: Lol Rick needs a safe space
Marv
Posts: 35540
Alba Posts: 69
Joined: 9/2/2002
Member: #315
5/3/2009  3:02 PM
Posted by SupremeCommander:
Posted by Marv:

how does he compare to eric gordon as a prospect coming out of college?

Eric Gordon was a top recruit with a ton of athleticism and played at Indiana. He broke his arm and his percentages dropped significantly and he still took a ton of shots. His stock fell.

Curry has a smooth stroke and high basketball IQ but plays at Davidson. His stoke is smooth and he dominated the NCAA tournament against legit competition by stringing together 40 vs Gonzaga, 30 vs Georgetown, 33 vs Wisconsin, and 25 in the 2-pt loss vs Kansas. This past season was his first as a point guard and he had 5.8 APG, which he has to play at the next level because he's 6'1" and doesn't look like an NBA player.

Curry doesn't have the physical gifts that Gordon has. I'd say he's a smarter player, and has better form on his shot. The question concern potential physical limitations and if a team is willing to teach him how to run the point.

thanks
VDesai
Posts: 43301
Alba Posts: 44
Joined: 10/28/2003
Member: #477
USA
5/3/2009  3:19 PM
Right- Eric Gordon had better size, and was a better athlete. Just like I was getting at with Ben Gordon before- even though he's not tall too.

But the thing that separates Stephen Curry from Quincy Douby is definitely the bball IQ that Supreme was talking about. Douby is another 6'3, superthin, big time scoring sharpshooter- he just never got to play in the NCAA tourney cause he was on a team in the Big East that had to fight at least half dozen to a dozen national powerhouses for a bid. But Douby never took to distributing quite the same way Curry has.

That said I'm skeptical about whether Curry could ever switch over- the reason Curry is an NBA talent is his shooting, not his PG abilities, so naturally what will make him successful in the NBA is his shooting. He brings a bit more to the floor than someone like Douby did.

What separates Curry from JJ Reddick? I think Curry is a better shooter and a better athlete.
orangeblobman
Posts: 27269
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 3/1/2009
Member: #2539
Nauru
5/3/2009  3:45 PM
I really think that it's very difficult, if not impossible, to gauge a player's NBA potential from his college performance or physical construct. Sometimes, guys just stand out (think Lebron or Bogut), but most of the players seem to be hit or misses. Gilbert Arenas was picked late in the 2nd round. That said, Curry seems like a pretty good choice because he has NBA genes and he put up a bunch of points on good programs. Plus his mom is very good looking.
WE AIN'T NOWHERE WITH THIS BUM CHOKER IN CARMELO. GIVE ME STARKS'S 2-21 ANY DAY OVER THIS LACKLUSTER CLUSTEREFF.
Page 3 of 4 ‹ Previous 1  2  3  4 Next ›
« Reply To Topic
Stephen Curry interview (audio) He feels the Knicks will draft him.
Forum Index  ›  NY Knicks Forum

©2001-2025 ultimateknicks.comm All rights reserved. About Us.
This site is not affiliated with the NY Knicks or the National Basketball Association in any way.
You may visit the official NY Knicks web site by clicking here.

All times (GMT-05:00) Eastern Time.

Terms of Use and Privacy Policy