Posted by TMS:

only way the Knicks take Curry is if they trade down... they're not taking him w/a top 10 pick, no way.

You probably don't want to use the words "no way" in describing the possibility of drafting this or that player in a draft where even some of your higher ranked players have significant weaknesses in their games.

I would be concerned about what position he will end up playing in the NBA, and whether his lack of athleticism will ever be overcome by maturation and weight training, but on offense he is the most complete player there is in this draft, and his skills allow him to find ways to score within the offensive flow of a game as well or better than any player we may look to take.

I think that if he proves he can stay in front of NBA quality PGs and shows some decent lateral movement when guarding someone, he is a viable pick for this team. And who knows, if he really does well in workouts, he may just get picked before us and assure us of getting someone like DeRozan or Evans, who seem to be more popular as picks.


[Edited by - Paladin55 on 04-23-2009 7:01 PM]

no way Curry gets picked before Derozan... no way.

wow, strong statements by bob knight, but it was pretty darn good analysis.

as i've said, if we get curry, me more than happy, even if i would like rubio, and am very curious about jennings or maynor.

no to teague or lawson

As per the the information in this thread..Curry is a great shooter and a very good passer. My only question is...How is his handle? Can he orchestrate? Is so then he sounds like a good pick 8.

Handle is a bit overated. There are a lot of guys with sick handle that have HORRIBLE BB IQ and no leadership skills! Curry seems to me to have the right balance of tools to succeed under MDA. Teams don't have to have pure PG's to be great. Lakers, celtics, Cavs, Spurs... None has a pure point!

I'd have no problem with Curry in this rather weak draft.

I think he's a safe pick if anything, this system bodes well for him. But If i were a betting man walsh is probably looking at more euro players and has his eyes on using nate or lee to get a higher pick and a pick for next year.

Posted by BRIGGS:

Why do I get the feeling these good physical NBA PGs can lock this guy down? I loved him from last year into the beginning of this year but I saw him get locked down a few times by better athletes[athletes who are not NBA caliber]. I hope he does some HARD training from here to the physical portions of the pre-draft stuff. There are a lot of good things about this player but the scary part is the physicality and that counts big time

I can understand you're point, but I can't help but keep thinking about Nash and how he manages to be so effective despite not really being blazingly fast nor athletic. Stockton did just fine too. To me it's about the art of deception. Change of speed and knowing when to use it is very important as is MDA's liberal use of Pick and roll. When you have a guy like Stockton or Nash they'll kill you in a pick and roll situation. Maybe Curry will be able to do similar things.

Posted by BRIGGS:

Posted by nixluva:

Posted by BRIGGS:

Why do I get the feeling these good physical NBA PGs can lock this guy down? I loved him from last year into the beginning of this year but I saw him get locked down a few times by better athletes[athletes who are not NBA caliber]. I hope he does some HARD training from here to the physical portions of the pre-draft stuff. There are a lot of good things about this player but the scary part is the physicality and that counts big time

I can understand you're point, but I can't help but keep thinking about Nash and how he manages to be so effective despite not really being blazingly fast nor athletic. Stockton did just fine too. To me it's about the art of deception. Change of speed and knowing when to use it is very important as is MDA's liberal use of Pick and roll. When you have a guy like Stockton or Nash they'll kill you in a pick and roll situation. Maybe Curry will be able to do similar things.

For some reason I think he will be a Knick--I think Evans is going before 8 and I dont think the Knicks want Derozan over Curry. Like almost everyone else I would not hate the pick at all but I would be concerned how he will translate as a pro. I look at Johnny Flynn and he just looks like more of a guy who can be hard to guard in the uptempo game and has the strength and athleticism that translate well. He's also more of a pure 1.

I suspect Curry will be the pick as well.

I've very torn on this -- I love Curry but do worry about whether or not his skinny body will hold up. I worry less about his ability to play the point offensively --- its more about how will his body hold up. That said -- his body could be much improved with some hard work.

I like Flynn as well and fear he may in fact be a very special little man in the NBA.

I view him as a pure point but someone that can also score the ball.

I'll have concerns either way -- if we draft Curry I'll worry about Flynn and if we draft Flynn I'll by worrying that Curry is going to be a very solid pro.

It will be interesting to see....

If Curry kills in the one-one workouts he may not make it to us at 8. I think Flynn will be there.

Posted by sebstar:

he better not be the pick. If he's part of a larger plan, perhaps we can talk but if the Knicks go into next year with Curry being the only significant addition, immo be pissed.

word up, me too... the last thing we need is another undersized SG on this team... this guy isn't the longterm answer at PG for us IMO & i have a good feeling there'll be guys w/more upside potential than him at #8 who DO address positions of need for us to boot... no reason to reach for a guy like Curry that high... if we're trading down to get a player we covet & end up taking Curry later on in the draft, that's another story.

so u'r saying u'd take Curry over prospects like Derozan & Jennings?

& who says high upside prospects don't know how to play basketball? Derozan was going against much tougher SEC division competition & severely outplayed a top notch "polished & NBA ready" prospect like James Harden on 2 occasions last year as a 19 yo freshman... he showed he's got more than just athleticism in his game... do u think Curry woulda put up the same numbers he did playing in the same conference as Derozan? i don't think u can assume that at all.

Posted by TMS:

so u'r saying u'd take Curry over prospects like Derozan & Jennings?

& who says high upside prospects don't know how to play basketball? Derozan was going against much tougher SEC division competition & severely outplayed a top notch "polished & NBA ready" prospect like James Harden on 2 occasions last year as a 19 yo freshman... he showed he's got more than just athleticism in his game... do u think Curry woulda put up the same numbers he did playing in the same conference as Derozan? i don't think u can assume that at all.

first of all, derozan played in the pac-10. while i think derozan is a very nice prospect and i wouldn't hate it if the knicks took him where they would if they don't win the lotto, derozan had his ups and downs as a freshman in the pac 10. there were plenty of games where he wasn't a difference maker. curry was the best scorer in college basketball. he played AT oklahoma, a 2-seed who was the class of the bix 12, and had 44 points (12/29 from the field, 6/15 3, 14/14 from the line). he played vs nc state, an OK acc team, and had 44 again. 15 of 33 from the field, 4/14 from 3, 10/13 from the line. at west virginia a good big east team and struggled shooting 9/27 but had 27 points and 10 assists. he played at duke a 2 seed good acc team in cameron one of the hardest places to play and had 29 points 8 boards 7 assists on 10/22 from the field and 8/9 from the line (1/8 from 3 no good).

he was banged up a little this year and its true he did play in a bad conference, but he averaged 29 and 6 with a bunch of amateurs 2-12 and a good coach. he's a good player, he gets to the line a TON, he shoots well from 3, has a good handle, and definitely has room to improve as a point guard. he's by no means a finished product, but i think you draft him as a point guard without a doubt. he has a 25/8 ceiling IMO, i think he's good for 17/6 as a rook, esp. with this d'antoni system.