what is the worst contract overall, rashard lewis for $20 mil/yr or barry zito for$20 mil/yr?

Posted by BigSm00th:

what is the worst contract overall, rashard lewis for $20 mil/yr or barry zito for$20 mil/yr?

Zito was a big time pitcher once. So while the contract turned out to be bad, the Giants thought that he would be their solid #1 starter. Lewis never held such honor in the NBA.

Posted by JrZyHuStLa:

Posted by BigSm00th:

what is the worst contract overall, rashard lewis for $20 mil/yr or barry zito for$20 mil/yr?

Zito. Rashard didn't fall off the face of the Earth.

There were major warning signs with Zito. He was throwing like a 60 mph fastball in his last couple of years in Oakland. The complete lack of interest the Yankees had in him, considering how much he dominated them over the years, said it all. People jumped on how awful the deal was the minute it was signed.

Both are horrible deals.

[Edited by - sebstar on 04-20-2009 1:55 PM]

Posted by sebstar:

Posted by djsunyc:

meanwhile orlando just won 59 games and made the playoffs again.

you can't operate in a vacuum. they signed shard b/c they wanted a legitimate shooter around dwight. hedo was a better player last year than this year. they can always flip it up and move hedo for a pf in a S&T this summer if they want.

the reason they lost is b/c no jameer nelson. skip is not that good.

shard's contract is terrible, but a gm has to get talent to not only sell tickets but try to win games. holding out for the "perfect" player will leave you with your d ck in your hand and 35 win seasons.

All of that does nothing to address the point on how this is one of the worst contracts in sports.

how many of those 59 wins do you attribute to Rashard Lewis? They already had a mega superstar in the making in Dwight Howard, so why panic and give a borderline All Star, All-First team money?

Reminds me of when people dismissed Dumars drafting Darko because the Pistons were doing well at the time. Just because you're doing well doesnt mean you havent made personnel decisions that will mitigate your success.

If the Magic arent careful, they're going to see another Shaq redux, when Howard walks in a couple of years because they are trying to Patrick Ewing him and give him little help. And all they will be left with is Lewis' albatross of a deal. The Magic have backed themselves into a corner --- they clearly are not championship material.

but if they didn't sign shard - then what would they have done? that's my point. sometimes you can't operate waiting for ideal situations. you have to make a move to get better now and you have to pay for it. remember, hedo was a major surprise last season and he's fell back to earth a bit this year. if they don't mind being in luxury tax, then they can still spend money and get more talent. all that contract did was ensure they would never be under the cap. but that's not the end of the world. they will realize soon enough what they need for postseason success and it's up to them to make a move if an opportunity presents itself. they are psuedo challengers but that's ok - there's not wrong with that. this is an organization that blew 2 lotto picks on fran vasquez and jj redick. and they still won 59 games this year.

[Edited by - djsunyc on 04-20-2009 2:00 PM]

Posted by djsunyc:

Posted by sebstar:

Posted by djsunyc:

meanwhile orlando just won 59 games and made the playoffs again.

you can't operate in a vacuum. they signed shard b/c they wanted a legitimate shooter around dwight. hedo was a better player last year than this year. they can always flip it up and move hedo for a pf in a S&T this summer if they want.

the reason they lost is b/c no jameer nelson. skip is not that good.

shard's contract is terrible, but a gm has to get talent to not only sell tickets but try to win games. holding out for the "perfect" player will leave you with your d ck in your hand and 35 win seasons.

All of that does nothing to address the point on how this is one of the worst contracts in sports.

how many of those 59 wins do you attribute to Rashard Lewis? They already had a mega superstar in the making in Dwight Howard, so why panic and give a borderline All Star, All-First team money?

Reminds me of when people dismissed Dumars drafting Darko because the Pistons were doing well at the time. Just because you're doing well doesnt mean you havent made personnel decisions that will mitigate your success.

If the Magic arent careful, they're going to see another Shaq redux, when Howard walks in a couple of years because they are trying to Patrick Ewing him and give him little help. And all they will be left with is Lewis' albatross of a deal. The Magic have backed themselves into a corner --- they clearly are not championship material.

but if they didn't sign shard - then what would they have done? that's my point. sometimes you can't operate waiting for ideal situations. you have to make a move to get better now and you have to pay for it. remember, hedo was a major surprise last season and he's fell back to earth a bit this year. if they don't mind being in luxury tax, then they can still spend money and get more talent. all that contract did was ensure they would never be under the cap. but that's not the end of the world. they will realize soon enough what they need for postseason success and it's up to them to make a move if an opportunity presents itself. they are psuedo challengers but that's ok - there's not wrong with that. this is an organization that blew 2 lotto picks on fran vasquez and jj redick. and they still won 59 games this year.

[Edited by - djsunyc on 04-20-2009 2:00 PM]

I dont know what their financial situation is, but I doubt they can absorb both Lewis' contract, a resigned Howard, and have enough money to properly build around them.

They could have replicated Lewis' production for a 1/3 of the cost. Thats a problem.

Posted by sebstar:

Posted by djsunyc:

meanwhile orlando just won 59 games and made the playoffs again.

you can't operate in a vacuum. they signed shard b/c they wanted a legitimate shooter around dwight. hedo was a better player last year than this year. they can always flip it up and move hedo for a pf in a S&T this summer if they want.

the reason they lost is b/c no jameer nelson. skip is not that good.

shard's contract is terrible, but a gm has to get talent to not only sell tickets but try to win games. holding out for the "perfect" player will leave you with your d ck in your hand and 35 win seasons.

All of that does nothing to address how terrible of a contract it is.

how many of those 59 wins do you attribute to Rashard Lewis? They already had a mega superstar in the making in Dwight Howard, so why panic and give a borderline All Star, All-First team money?

Reminds me of when people dismissed Dumars drafting Darko because the Pistons were doing well at the time. Just because you're doing well doesnt mean you havent made personnel decisions that will mitigate your success.

If the Magic arent careful, they're going to see another Shaq redux, when Howard walks in a couple of years because they are trying to Patrick Ewing him and give him little help. And all they will be left with is Lewis' albatross of a deal. The Magic have backed themselves into a corner --- they clearly are not championship material.

[Edited by - sebstar on 04-20-2009 1:57 PM]

thank you.

Rondo gave Rose two fouls, Hinrich three fouls and Miller one foul in one quarter. Impressive.

i gotta admit i like big baby. sweetney should havae been what he's becoming.

noah got spunk. i like that kid.

Posted by Pharzeone:

Posted by Marv:

i gotta admit i like big baby. sweetney should havae been what he's becoming.

Yeah Big Baby is a player. He just got to watch the weight over his career but he should be fine.

Too bad that fat POS Curry never watched his weight.

[Edited by - jrzyhustla on 04-20-2009 8:51 PM]

yeah ben! briggy you on this game?