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tkf
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3/25/2009  11:05 AM
Posted by earthmansurfer:
Posted by CrushAlot:

I don't think anyone who plays 14 minutes a game for 28 games can be called a glue guy. I think you have to hope for two things, Gallo recovers, and the organization learned not to get tricky with its high lottery picks.

First I said the "glue guy" thing meaning that him not being out there hurt our record. Look who he is sharing the ball with (Harrington and Nate - These are not "glue guys"). What I was saying is that we probably are getting a better pick this year due to him not being out there and hopefully him being back 100% next year along with a better pick this year (As a result) is a hidden blessing.

Gallo is what he is regardless of 14 minutes a game for 28 games or all the games. And that is, he is a team player. Your point is off with minutes played as minutes played (small or large) does not change a players basketball character.

They picked the best player at that pick, I believe that, the thing is he got hurt and to add to that nobody knew of him.
I like Lopez for a half court team and we have Nate so I didn't want Gordon... Randolph is the guy I did want, but I'm content with Gallo (for now).


good post, and I agree with you... Getting a healthy gallo along with our draft pick next year is almost like having two lottery picks comming in next year, except one has 28 games under his belt.. I think this team also misses gallo more than, many may thing.. For 14 minutes each night he played, you know you were going to get 6ppg, 2 boards, and 46% shooting from the field and behind the arc... plus he was a team player, passed the ball and didn't disrupt the offense... that is nice to have comming off your bench for 14mpg.. rookie or vet... either that, or see more of Q, and jeffries.... I know what I would rather see....
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3/25/2009  11:14 AM
Posted by Pharzeone:

A 20 year old, professional basketball player with a bad back. Who requires surgery to alleviate pain after playing a whole 28 games for no more than 15 minutes in any of those games after a period of significant rest. You don't have to be a back specialist, Einstein or Nostradamus to know the Knicks F'd it up big time. I don't care if you wait til the year 3009 to evaluate him. They F'd it up.

I agree, you don't have to be any of those things.. You just have to be pharzeone to have that all figured out..... smh

[Edited by - tkf on 25-03-2009 11:14 AM]
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3/25/2009  11:17 AM
Posted by Pharzeone:

A 20 year old, professional basketball player with a bad back. Who requires surgery to alleviate pain after playing a whole 28 games for no more than 15 minutes in any of those games after a period of significant rest. You don't have to be a back specialist, Einstein or Nostradamus to know the Knicks F'd it up big time. I don't care if you wait til the year 3009 to evaluate him. They F'd it up.

I'm pretty sure the goal was to avoid surgery so you have to throw everything that happened out the window when looking at it now. He tried to rest it/whatever and clearly it never got better. He needed surgery from the start and never got it. Let him get surgery first and come back next year and then you can continue the isles schtick.
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3/25/2009  11:21 AM
The guy could still fill it up when he had a bad back, which is better than we can say for Q, so even if he comes back with a walker we can still find a use for him.
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3/25/2009  11:25 AM
Posted by Pharzeone:

A 20 year old, professional basketball player with a bad back. Who requires surgery to alleviate pain after playing a whole 28 games for no more than 15 minutes in any of those games after a period of significant rest. You don't have to be a back specialist, Einstein or Nostradamus to know the Knicks F'd it up big time. I don't care if you wait til the year 3009 to evaluate him. They F'd it up.


You can say Portland F'up too with Oden.
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3/25/2009  12:48 PM
This whole idea that you made a mistake cuz of an unforseen injury that could happen to ANYONE is ridiculous. Gallo is a solid pick where we got him and even hurt you can see that he has pro skills. Randolph, Lopez and Gordon are all good picks as well, but I just hate that people think we wasted a pick based on the guy getting injured. Like Vmart said, Oden hasn't been able to stay on the floor either. Things like this happen.

I think Gallo will go on to have a fine career and be a very important part of this team for years to come. The back issue doesn't even sound that serious from the way the doc's are talking about he could just rest it or have a minor surgery to fix the problem. If it was anything really bad we'd be looking at a more extensive operation and a longer recovery time and they would never be saying he could also elect to just rest it. That doesn't sound like a major back problem to me.
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3/25/2009  1:03 PM
Posted by nixluva:

This whole idea that you made a mistake cuz of an unforseen injury that could happen to ANYONE is ridiculous. Gallo is a solid pick where we got him and even hurt you can see that he has pro skills. Randolph, Lopez and Gordon are all good picks as well, but I just hate that people think we wasted a pick based on the guy getting injured. Like Vmart said, Oden hasn't been able to stay on the floor either. Things like this happen.

I think Gallo will go on to have a fine career and be a very important part of this team for years to come. The back issue doesn't even sound that serious from the way the doc's are talking about he could just rest it or have a minor surgery to fix the problem. If it was anything really bad we'd be looking at a more extensive operation and a longer recovery time and they would never be saying he could also elect to just rest it. That doesn't sound like a major back problem to me.

It wasn't unforseen. Ergo, it was a huge mistake.
The back issue doesn't even sound that serious from the way the doc's are talking about he could just rest it or have a minor surgery to fix the problem. If it was anything really bad we'd be looking at a more extensive operation and a longer recovery time and they would never be saying he could also elect to just rest it. That doesn't sound like a major back problem to me.

LOL You're awesome. Hysterical stuff.


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3/25/2009  1:04 PM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by nixluva:

This whole idea that you made a mistake cuz of an unforseen injury that could happen to ANYONE is ridiculous. Gallo is a solid pick where we got him and even hurt you can see that he has pro skills. Randolph, Lopez and Gordon are all good picks as well, but I just hate that people think we wasted a pick based on the guy getting injured. Like Vmart said, Oden hasn't been able to stay on the floor either. Things like this happen.

I think Gallo will go on to have a fine career and be a very important part of this team for years to come. The back issue doesn't even sound that serious from the way the doc's are talking about he could just rest it or have a minor surgery to fix the problem. If it was anything really bad we'd be looking at a more extensive operation and a longer recovery time and they would never be saying he could also elect to just rest it. That doesn't sound like a major back problem to me.

It wasn't unforseen. Ergo, it was a huge mistake.
The back issue doesn't even sound that serious from the way the doc's are talking about he could just rest it or have a minor surgery to fix the problem. If it was anything really bad we'd be looking at a more extensive operation and a longer recovery time and they would never be saying he could also elect to just rest it. That doesn't sound like a major back problem to me.

LOL You're awesome. Hysterical stuff.

how was it not unforseen?
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3/25/2009  1:04 PM
Posted by Vmart:
Posted by Pharzeone:

A 20 year old, professional basketball player with a bad back. Who requires surgery to alleviate pain after playing a whole 28 games for no more than 15 minutes in any of those games after a period of significant rest. You don't have to be a back specialist, Einstein or Nostradamus to know the Knicks F'd it up big time. I don't care if you wait til the year 3009 to evaluate him. They F'd it up.


You can say Portland F'up too with Oden.

Really? Were the Blazers aware of a pre-existing condition with Oden's knees before they drafted him?
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3/25/2009  1:06 PM
Posted by martin:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by nixluva:

This whole idea that you made a mistake cuz of an unforseen injury that could happen to ANYONE is ridiculous. Gallo is a solid pick where we got him and even hurt you can see that he has pro skills. Randolph, Lopez and Gordon are all good picks as well, but I just hate that people think we wasted a pick based on the guy getting injured. Like Vmart said, Oden hasn't been able to stay on the floor either. Things like this happen.

I think Gallo will go on to have a fine career and be a very important part of this team for years to come. The back issue doesn't even sound that serious from the way the doc's are talking about he could just rest it or have a minor surgery to fix the problem. If it was anything really bad we'd be looking at a more extensive operation and a longer recovery time and they would never be saying he could also elect to just rest it. That doesn't sound like a major back problem to me.

It wasn't unforseen. Ergo, it was a huge mistake.
The back issue doesn't even sound that serious from the way the doc's are talking about he could just rest it or have a minor surgery to fix the problem. If it was anything really bad we'd be looking at a more extensive operation and a longer recovery time and they would never be saying he could also elect to just rest it. That doesn't sound like a major back problem to me.

LOL You're awesome. Hysterical stuff.

how was it not unforseen?

By the fact that Gallinari had problems with his back before he was drafted.
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3/25/2009  1:06 PM
Posted by martin:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by nixluva:

This whole idea that you made a mistake cuz of an unforseen injury that could happen to ANYONE is ridiculous. Gallo is a solid pick where we got him and even hurt you can see that he has pro skills. Randolph, Lopez and Gordon are all good picks as well, but I just hate that people think we wasted a pick based on the guy getting injured. Like Vmart said, Oden hasn't been able to stay on the floor either. Things like this happen.

I think Gallo will go on to have a fine career and be a very important part of this team for years to come. The back issue doesn't even sound that serious from the way the doc's are talking about he could just rest it or have a minor surgery to fix the problem. If it was anything really bad we'd be looking at a more extensive operation and a longer recovery time and they would never be saying he could also elect to just rest it. That doesn't sound like a major back problem to me.

It wasn't unforseen. Ergo, it was a huge mistake.
The back issue doesn't even sound that serious from the way the doc's are talking about he could just rest it or have a minor surgery to fix the problem. If it was anything really bad we'd be looking at a more extensive operation and a longer recovery time and they would never be saying he could also elect to just rest it. That doesn't sound like a major back problem to me.

LOL You're awesome. Hysterical stuff.

how was it not unforseen?

How wasn't it not unforseen?
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3/25/2009  1:07 PM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by martin:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by nixluva:

This whole idea that you made a mistake cuz of an unforseen injury that could happen to ANYONE is ridiculous. Gallo is a solid pick where we got him and even hurt you can see that he has pro skills. Randolph, Lopez and Gordon are all good picks as well, but I just hate that people think we wasted a pick based on the guy getting injured. Like Vmart said, Oden hasn't been able to stay on the floor either. Things like this happen.

I think Gallo will go on to have a fine career and be a very important part of this team for years to come. The back issue doesn't even sound that serious from the way the doc's are talking about he could just rest it or have a minor surgery to fix the problem. If it was anything really bad we'd be looking at a more extensive operation and a longer recovery time and they would never be saying he could also elect to just rest it. That doesn't sound like a major back problem to me.

It wasn't unforseen. Ergo, it was a huge mistake.
The back issue doesn't even sound that serious from the way the doc's are talking about he could just rest it or have a minor surgery to fix the problem. If it was anything really bad we'd be looking at a more extensive operation and a longer recovery time and they would never be saying he could also elect to just rest it. That doesn't sound like a major back problem to me.

LOL You're awesome. Hysterical stuff.

how was it not unforseen?

By the fact that Gallinari had problems with his back before he was drafted.

Those weren't back problems, they were growing pains.
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3/25/2009  1:18 PM
they should've known something was up when he was drinking GSL - gatorade stiff leg drink...
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3/25/2009  1:20 PM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by martin:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by nixluva:

This whole idea that you made a mistake cuz of an unforseen injury that could happen to ANYONE is ridiculous. Gallo is a solid pick where we got him and even hurt you can see that he has pro skills. Randolph, Lopez and Gordon are all good picks as well, but I just hate that people think we wasted a pick based on the guy getting injured. Like Vmart said, Oden hasn't been able to stay on the floor either. Things like this happen.

I think Gallo will go on to have a fine career and be a very important part of this team for years to come. The back issue doesn't even sound that serious from the way the doc's are talking about he could just rest it or have a minor surgery to fix the problem. If it was anything really bad we'd be looking at a more extensive operation and a longer recovery time and they would never be saying he could also elect to just rest it. That doesn't sound like a major back problem to me.

It wasn't unforseen. Ergo, it was a huge mistake.
The back issue doesn't even sound that serious from the way the doc's are talking about he could just rest it or have a minor surgery to fix the problem. If it was anything really bad we'd be looking at a more extensive operation and a longer recovery time and they would never be saying he could also elect to just rest it. That doesn't sound like a major back problem to me.

LOL You're awesome. Hysterical stuff.

how was it not unforseen?

By the fact that Gallinari had problems with his back before he was drafted.

show us.
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3/25/2009  1:35 PM
Posted by martin:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by martin:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by nixluva:

This whole idea that you made a mistake cuz of an unforseen injury that could happen to ANYONE is ridiculous. Gallo is a solid pick where we got him and even hurt you can see that he has pro skills. Randolph, Lopez and Gordon are all good picks as well, but I just hate that people think we wasted a pick based on the guy getting injured. Like Vmart said, Oden hasn't been able to stay on the floor either. Things like this happen.

I think Gallo will go on to have a fine career and be a very important part of this team for years to come. The back issue doesn't even sound that serious from the way the doc's are talking about he could just rest it or have a minor surgery to fix the problem. If it was anything really bad we'd be looking at a more extensive operation and a longer recovery time and they would never be saying he could also elect to just rest it. That doesn't sound like a major back problem to me.

It wasn't unforseen. Ergo, it was a huge mistake.
The back issue doesn't even sound that serious from the way the doc's are talking about he could just rest it or have a minor surgery to fix the problem. If it was anything really bad we'd be looking at a more extensive operation and a longer recovery time and they would never be saying he could also elect to just rest it. That doesn't sound like a major back problem to me.

LOL You're awesome. Hysterical stuff.

how was it not unforseen?

By the fact that Gallinari had problems with his back before he was drafted.

show us.

Again?

Dude, I started a thread on this a week ago. It has over 1000 looks, you must have been one of them.

If I do it here, Andrew might lock this thread up and direct us to my other thread.
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3/25/2009  1:40 PM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by martin:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by martin:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by nixluva:

This whole idea that you made a mistake cuz of an unforseen injury that could happen to ANYONE is ridiculous. Gallo is a solid pick where we got him and even hurt you can see that he has pro skills. Randolph, Lopez and Gordon are all good picks as well, but I just hate that people think we wasted a pick based on the guy getting injured. Like Vmart said, Oden hasn't been able to stay on the floor either. Things like this happen.

I think Gallo will go on to have a fine career and be a very important part of this team for years to come. The back issue doesn't even sound that serious from the way the doc's are talking about he could just rest it or have a minor surgery to fix the problem. If it was anything really bad we'd be looking at a more extensive operation and a longer recovery time and they would never be saying he could also elect to just rest it. That doesn't sound like a major back problem to me.

It wasn't unforseen. Ergo, it was a huge mistake.
The back issue doesn't even sound that serious from the way the doc's are talking about he could just rest it or have a minor surgery to fix the problem. If it was anything really bad we'd be looking at a more extensive operation and a longer recovery time and they would never be saying he could also elect to just rest it. That doesn't sound like a major back problem to me.

LOL You're awesome. Hysterical stuff.

how was it not unforseen?

By the fact that Gallinari had problems with his back before he was drafted.

show us.

Again?

Dude, I started a thread on this a week ago. It has over 1000 looks, you must have been one of them.

If I do it here, Andrew might lock this thread up and direct us to my other thread.

dude don't you get it? andrew and martin are THE SAME PERSON!!
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3/25/2009  1:46 PM
Posted by Marv:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by martin:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by martin:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by nixluva:

This whole idea that you made a mistake cuz of an unforseen injury that could happen to ANYONE is ridiculous. Gallo is a solid pick where we got him and even hurt you can see that he has pro skills. Randolph, Lopez and Gordon are all good picks as well, but I just hate that people think we wasted a pick based on the guy getting injured. Like Vmart said, Oden hasn't been able to stay on the floor either. Things like this happen.

I think Gallo will go on to have a fine career and be a very important part of this team for years to come. The back issue doesn't even sound that serious from the way the doc's are talking about he could just rest it or have a minor surgery to fix the problem. If it was anything really bad we'd be looking at a more extensive operation and a longer recovery time and they would never be saying he could also elect to just rest it. That doesn't sound like a major back problem to me.

It wasn't unforseen. Ergo, it was a huge mistake.
The back issue doesn't even sound that serious from the way the doc's are talking about he could just rest it or have a minor surgery to fix the problem. If it was anything really bad we'd be looking at a more extensive operation and a longer recovery time and they would never be saying he could also elect to just rest it. That doesn't sound like a major back problem to me.

LOL You're awesome. Hysterical stuff.

how was it not unforseen?

By the fact that Gallinari had problems with his back before he was drafted.

show us.

Again?

Dude, I started a thread on this a week ago. It has over 1000 looks, you must have been one of them.

If I do it here, Andrew might lock this thread up and direct us to my other thread.

dude don't you get it? andrew and martin are THE SAME PERSON!!

That would really explain a lot.

Based on your professional opinion, which one is the alter ego?
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3/25/2009  1:57 PM
Shaving the bone is.....

Never mind.

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3/25/2009  3:24 PM
Posted by GKFv2:
Posted by Pharzeone:

A 20 year old, professional basketball player with a bad back. Who requires surgery to alleviate pain after playing a whole 28 games for no more than 15 minutes in any of those games after a period of significant rest. You don't have to be a back specialist, Einstein or Nostradamus to know the Knicks F'd it up big time. I don't care if you wait til the year 3009 to evaluate him. They F'd it up.

I'm pretty sure the goal was to avoid surgery so you have to throw everything that happened out the window when looking at it now. He tried to rest it/whatever and clearly it never got better. He needed surgery from the start and never got it. Let him get surgery first and come back next year and then you can continue the isles schtick.

The fact is that it did get better to some extent after they shut him down after those few games at the beginning of the season, and the doctors we work with made the determination that at 70-75% he could play and it would not get any worse. Based on what we saw on the court, it did not get any better, and might have gotten a little worse with increased playing time.

My issue is with the docs who made the above determination.

I also take issue with fans who think they know whether a draft pick is a wise choice based on 30 or so games of play by a kid with a back injury that he probably should not have been playing with.

Does anyone think that the final result is in as to whether or not Oden should have been drafted before Durant? Oden might just be the next Sam Bowie, but he might also be a guy who eventually develops and becomes a star worthy of being chosen # 1 in the draft. Who knows what is going to happen with any player?

Why not just wait and watch and see how everything plays out? People will have all the time they want to bash the Gallinari pick if, after he has developed physically, he turns out to be just a 15MPG jump shooter with a gimpy back and "stiff legs." Personally, I will be more upset if his back heals completely and he just turns out to be a good jump shooter and not the complete player I thought he could be prior to the draft. The back, if a permanent problem, is upsetting because it was out of our control and seemingly came out of nowhere, but not enough to make me condemn the Gallinari pick at #6, unless it can be proven that Kiki was right and we knew about the injury before we picked him. Sh't happens, and much of it is out of our control, and people can do everything right and things might still not work out well.

People can say anything they want, but nobody really knows how we will be looking at this situation 2-3 years down the line.
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How do you know the doctors let him back at 70-75 percent? What if D'Antoni wasn't a liar and he was 100 percent?
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