Posted by GKFv2:

Posted by TMS:

Lee is miles better than Wilcox, but that wasn't Eny's point when he made this thread... he was asking why Wilcox wasn't starting games while Lee was out w/injury... anyone who realistically thinks Wilcox can replace Lee's production on this team on a nightly basis is nuts.

Lee was out against Orlando and we outrebounded them. They have Dwight Howard. Lee makes little to no impact on the team in terms of wins and losses. The fact that he plays no defense at all compounds that. Wilcox would put 15 and 9 in this system, no question. He plays defense out there or at least tries too. I'd rather re-sign him for cheap than pay David Lee anything he asks for.

Posted by TMS:

Lee is miles better than Wilcox, but that wasn't Eny's point when he made this thread... he was asking why Wilcox wasn't starting games while Lee was out w/injury... anyone who realistically thinks Wilcox can replace Lee's production on this team on a nightly basis is nuts.

Posted by misterearl:

Miles Better?

Guarantee: All Dialogue Reported Verbatum

JohnWallace44 - Lee is playing hurt to be fair. This defense he's playing now is a whole new kind of suck.

nyk4ever - I disagree. He's always played ****ty defensively, now he just has an excuse.

MIles Better? Really TMS? Based on exactly what particular observations?

Posted by GKFv2:

TMS, we are having a discussion. If you can't explain why you think Lee is better than Wilcox than it's better off you don't say anything. Saying "yes he is" and refusing to follow up doesn't really add anything and only leads to people like earl trying to start an argument.

misterearl, why do all your posts resemble a Dr. Seuss novel? Speak our language man.

Posted by TMS:

Posted by GKFv2:

TMS, we are having a discussion. If you can't explain why you think Lee is better than Wilcox than it's better off you don't say anything. Saying "yes he is" and refusing to follow up doesn't really add anything and only leads to people like earl trying to start an argument.

misterearl, why do all your posts resemble a Dr. Seuss novel? Speak our language man.

GK, i dunno when u think u've become the moderator of these forums, but i'll oblige u... it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out why, just take a look at the stats they've put up since they've both been in the NBA... this year Lee's a 16 & 12 PF who's a better finisher around the rim, a better rebounder, a better passer than Wilcox has ever been even during his 2 seasons as a starter in SEA (who also btw, ran an uptempo style offense), & i'm a guy who wanted to draft Wilcox when he was a lottery pick... there's a reason why Wilcox has not been a fulltime starter on a lot of the teams he's been on, he's just not that good... he's a pretty good role player, that's it... he's a player in the same tier as someone like Reggie Evans, Etan Thomas, etc.... to me, Lee is just short of being a star calibre player... it's not even close in my eyes.

Posted by GKFv2:

Posted by TMS:

Posted by GKFv2:

TMS, we are having a discussion. If you can't explain why you think Lee is better than Wilcox than it's better off you don't say anything. Saying "yes he is" and refusing to follow up doesn't really add anything and only leads to people like earl trying to start an argument.

misterearl, why do all your posts resemble a Dr. Seuss novel? Speak our language man.

GK, i dunno when u think u've become the moderator of these forums, but i'll oblige u... it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out why, just take a look at the stats they've put up since they've both been in the NBA... this year Lee's a 16 & 12 PF who's a better finisher around the rim, a better rebounder, a better passer than Wilcox has ever been even during his 2 seasons as a starter in SEA (who also btw, ran an uptempo style offense), & i'm a guy who wanted to draft Wilcox when he was a lottery pick... there's a reason why Wilcox has not been a fulltime starter on a lot of the teams he's been on, he's just not that good... he's a pretty good role player, that's it... he's a player in the same tier as someone like Reggie Evans, Etan Thomas, etc.... to me, Lee is just short of being a star calibre player... it's not even close in my eyes.

Wow.

*shakes head*

Posted by GKFv2:

Posted by TMS:

Posted by GKFv2:

Posted by TMS:

Posted by GKFv2:

TMS, we are having a discussion. If you can't explain why you think Lee is better than Wilcox than it's better off you don't say anything. Saying "yes he is" and refusing to follow up doesn't really add anything and only leads to people like earl trying to start an argument.

misterearl, why do all your posts resemble a Dr. Seuss novel? Speak our language man.

GK, i dunno when u think u've become the moderator of these forums, but i'll oblige u... it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out why, just take a look at the stats they've put up since they've both been in the NBA... this year Lee's a 16 & 12 PF who's a better finisher around the rim, a better rebounder, a better passer than Wilcox has ever been even during his 2 seasons as a starter in SEA (who also btw, ran an uptempo style offense), & i'm a guy who wanted to draft Wilcox when he was a lottery pick... there's a reason why Wilcox has not been a fulltime starter on a lot of the teams he's been on, he's just not that good... he's a pretty good role player, that's it... he's a player in the same tier as someone like Reggie Evans, Etan Thomas, etc.... to me, Lee is just short of being a star calibre player... it's not even close in my eyes.

Wow.

*shakes head*

thanks for elaborating on why u disagree w/the points i just made... the only points u've cared to make on this thread is to introduce that Avi Lee invention of yours... practice what u preach dude.

[Edited by - TMS on 03-24-2009 6:54 PM]

I have committed most of my points, even page-long posts, on discussing David Lee. I'm tired of it. There's like 3 topics discussing why Wilcox would do as well as Lee and I already expressed my opinion on that as well. I don't need to repeat myself. It ain't like I'm going to change your opinion anyway.

Posted by misterearl:

GKFv2 - what is "our language"?

TMS - what you consider inciting an argument is only an attempt to get you to substantiate your point. If the verbal needling causes such an allergic reaction I promise to simply take your word as is, without question. You are free to post your opinion in a vacuum and be left alone. No need to discuss. If you can't take a little chin music without reacting in anger and name-calling then any conversation between you and me is not worth the trouble anyway.

Our language means post like we post - in clear English. I don't need to read short stories with symbolism to try and understand what you're talking about.