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Bonn1997
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2/24/2009  10:23 AM
Odom for $5 or 6 mil a year or Lee for $9 mil a year? That's a more reasonable question.

Or maybe Odom + Nate for $11 mil a year VS. Lee for $9 mil and $2 mil left over on a low level FA
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2/24/2009  10:42 AM
In 2009 we have both the MLE (approx $5.5M) and the bi-annual LLE (approx $2.2M). I think you need to be in a position to get a max FA in 2010... which means moving the contracts of Curry and/or Jeffries. As much as I love player loyalty, I think this team is trying to pull an offseason like the Celtics did... I think you have to consider using all of the assets to provide a combination of cap space and talented vets at low cost. I think you cannot afford to pay full price for Lee or Nate...
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2/24/2009  10:55 AM
Posted by Bonn1997:

Odom for $5 or 6 mil a year or Lee for $9 mil a year? That's a more reasonable question.

Or maybe Odom + Nate for $11 mil a year VS. Lee for $9 mil and $2 mil left over on a low level FA

While I agree we should not overrate Odom based on his recent stretch, he is a far superior player to Lee and I would take him any day of the week over him.
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2/24/2009  12:49 PM
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briggs you really should know better than to judge a 10-year vet on a 10-game stretch. as you may reacall, marbury had a stretch every season where he played like the league mvp.

10 game stretch--how about his last 5 years? Lamar Odom is better than any player we have now. If you put Lee and Odom together--that is a nice frontline in this system. There is not going to be enough money out there for many guys. The Lakers are already at 75MM for next year. We cannot fixate on 2010-- we HAVE to sign Lee and Nate and its not likely we get rid of Curry and Jefferies--maybe we do maybe we don't Lamar Odom is a very nice piece. I would have a private plane waiting for him to take him back to NY 1 minute into FA. He gets top billing with Lee here.
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2/24/2009  12:56 PM
Ahhhh.. this place really wouldn't be the same without coming on here and seeing at least 1 over-reaction post from Briggs a week.
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2/24/2009  1:02 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:

Ahhhh.. this place really wouldn't be the same without coming on here and seeing at least 1 over-reaction post from Briggs a week.

Whats your plan? Lets hear it chief?

I think keeping the team mostly in place--go hard after Lamar and adding a Willie Warren or Jeff Teague to the team would not only make this a 50 win team but a team that can win in the post season.
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2/24/2009  1:21 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by nyk4ever:

Ahhhh.. this place really wouldn't be the same without coming on here and seeing at least 1 over-reaction post from Briggs a week.

Whats your plan? Lets hear it chief?

I think keeping the team mostly in place--go hard after Lamar and adding a Willie Warren or Jeff Teague to the team would not only make this a 50 win team but a team that can win in the post season.

Briggs I've posted my plans on this forum many times - most of the time I quote your posts when doing so. Problem is, you ignore them, so no, I'm not going to post them again. Do a little searching and you'll find them.
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2/24/2009  1:26 PM
15 points, 8 boards, 4 assists, 1 block, 46% FGs.... for his career, am I missing something? I have seen a ton of Odom over the years. The guys is a fantastic player. If he had that crazy drive he would have been the next Magic Johnson. A lot of people kill him for NOT being that player, instead he's just been a borderline allstar his whole career. He's missed alot of games over the years for various reasons and he's Kevin Garnett. But he's not Tim Thomas either. The guy is awesome and as a 2nd or 3rd option on your team he's great.

And yes.. he's a perfect fit here.

If the Knicks opted to buy instead of sell before 2010 they could put a monster team around Duhon, Nate, Lee, Chandler and Harrington. Guys like Bogut, Peja and Gerald Wallace will be available for expiring deals. Put guys like that around Odom and our current core and we are a 50 win team fighting for a title. At least then we can start talking title and what it would take to get us there, rather then saying crap like we cant sign Lee, Nate *AND* give a guy like Odom because there is a 1% chance of Lebron coming here.
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2/24/2009  3:11 PM
you guys want to target a player? go after marion. you put marion + lee at the 3/4 and you are dominating the boards every single night. then you can go a get two big time scorers in the backcourt and go to war with that.
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Posted by djsunyc:

you guys want to target a player? go after marion. you put marion + lee at the 3/4 and you are dominating the boards every single night. then you can go a get two big time scorers in the backcourt and go to war with that.

Hey you're getting on board but Lamar is the better fit than Marion--on top of which I think there is high plausibility that Marion will take Raptor money which will be more than the MLE. Lamar has played on a championship level team and is one of the main cogs. He's more versatile than Marion with the bigger body. I really think Lamar here would be very close to 20-10-5-- a player like that with a couple of other sound moves would instantly make us serious players. I know most people don't watch anyone other than the KNicks--believe me Lamar Odom is a great player in his absolute prime and perfect for this system.
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Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by djsunyc:

you guys want to target a player? go after marion. you put marion + lee at the 3/4 and you are dominating the boards every single night. then you can go a get two big time scorers in the backcourt and go to war with that.

Hey you're getting on board but Lamar is the better fit than Marion--on top of which I think there is high plausibility that Marion will take Raptor money which will be more than the MLE. Lamar has played on a championship level team and is one of the main cogs. He's more versatile than Marion with the bigger body. I really think Lamar here would be very close to 20-10-5-- a player like that with a couple of other sound moves would instantly make us serious players. I know most people don't watch anyone other than the KNicks--believe me Lamar Odom is a great player in his absolute prime and perfect for this system.

Nice. Briggs insulting the board because people don't agree with him about wanting Odom. Yeah Briggs, you're the only one who watches basketball.
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Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by djsunyc:

you guys want to target a player? go after marion. you put marion + lee at the 3/4 and you are dominating the boards every single night. then you can go a get two big time scorers in the backcourt and go to war with that.

Hey you're getting on board but Lamar is the better fit than Marion--on top of which I think there is high plausibility that Marion will take Raptor money which will be more than the MLE. Lamar has played on a championship level team and is one of the main cogs. He's more versatile than Marion with the bigger body. I really think Lamar here would be very close to 20-10-5-- a player like that with a couple of other sound moves would instantly make us serious players. I know most people don't watch anyone other than the KNicks--believe me Lamar Odom is a great player in his absolute prime and perfect for this system.

Nice. Briggs insulting the board because people don't agree with him about wanting Odom. Yeah Briggs, you're the only one who watches basketball.

briggs, lamar plays like a *****. he disappears during crunchtime. he's fools gold, like another keith van horn. good luck with all that.
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2/24/2009  4:13 PM
Posted by Marv:
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by djsunyc:

you guys want to target a player? go after marion. you put marion + lee at the 3/4 and you are dominating the boards every single night. then you can go a get two big time scorers in the backcourt and go to war with that.

Hey you're getting on board but Lamar is the better fit than Marion--on top of which I think there is high plausibility that Marion will take Raptor money which will be more than the MLE. Lamar has played on a championship level team and is one of the main cogs. He's more versatile than Marion with the bigger body. I really think Lamar here would be very close to 20-10-5-- a player like that with a couple of other sound moves would instantly make us serious players. I know most people don't watch anyone other than the KNicks--believe me Lamar Odom is a great player in his absolute prime and perfect for this system.

Nice. Briggs insulting the board because people don't agree with him about wanting Odom. Yeah Briggs, you're the only one who watches basketball.

briggs, lamar plays like a *****. he disappears during crunchtime. he's fools gold, like another keith van horn. good luck with all that.

Lamar Odom--full MLE
Draft Teague or Warren
Buy a pick and take Pendegraph
Resign Lee and Nate
Extend Harrington

Knicks win 54 games next year

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2/24/2009  4:23 PM
forget Lamar & Marion... GO GET ME ZACH RANDOLPH! 20 & 10 baby... the hell with 2010... bring back Isiah.
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Posted by TMS:

forget Lamar & Marion... GO GET ME ZACH RANDOLPH! 20 & 10 baby... the hell with 2010... bring back Isiah.

No trade Nate Robinson for the 18th pick in the draft! Trade Lee for the 14th pick! Take Demar Derozen and Chase Budinger!
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2/24/2009  4:35 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by TMS:

forget Lamar & Marion... GO GET ME ZACH RANDOLPH! 20 & 10 baby... the hell with 2010... bring back Isiah.

No trade Nate Robinson for the 18th pick in the draft! Trade Lee for the 14th pick! Take Demar Derozen and Chase Budinger!

forget Derozan & Budinger! i'm looking for the next Marcus Williams & Mike Sweetney... & let's sign up Shareef Abdur Rahim, i think he's available.

[Edited by - TMS on 02-24-2009 1:35 PM]
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2/24/2009  4:37 PM
Posted by TMS:
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by TMS:

forget Lamar & Marion... GO GET ME ZACH RANDOLPH! 20 & 10 baby... the hell with 2010... bring back Isiah.

No trade Nate Robinson for the 18th pick in the draft! Trade Lee for the 14th pick! Take Demar Derozen and Chase Budinger!

forget Derozan & Budinger! i'm looking for the next Marcus Williams & Mike Sweetney... & let's sign up Shareef Abdur Rahim, i think he's available.

[Edited by - TMS on 02-24-2009 1:35 PM]

I SAID STYLE OF PLAY!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted by Bippity10:
Posted by TMS:
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by TMS:

forget Lamar & Marion... GO GET ME ZACH RANDOLPH! 20 & 10 baby... the hell with 2010... bring back Isiah.

No trade Nate Robinson for the 18th pick in the draft! Trade Lee for the 14th pick! Take Demar Derozen and Chase Budinger!

forget Derozan & Budinger! i'm looking for the next Marcus Williams & Mike Sweetney... & let's sign up Shareef Abdur Rahim, i think he's available.

[Edited by - TMS on 02-24-2009 1:35 PM]

I SAID STYLE OF PLAY!!!!!!!!!!

I remember you once said you were a Tim Hardaway clone. Is that still true?
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2/24/2009  5:22 PM
Briggs, were did you get it in your head that Odom can be had for the MLE?
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2/24/2009  5:33 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:

OK let me see you want Demar Derozen who cant shoot past 5 feet----that will enhance the program really quickly. Ill take Willie Warren or Jeff Teague and we''ll talk about it next year

My plan go get Lamar Odom for the full MLE frontloaded and either Teague or Warren for the bench. Your plan draft Dereozen and trade Nate robinson for a late pick. OK chief:)

no, my first choice is Blake Griffin, but we obviously won't have a pick high enough to get him... my second choice is Patrick Patterson, u know the guy who's bandwagon u jumped on months after i brought him up?... & if not him my third choice is Jordan Hill... then w/an extra pick i was advocating we go after someone like Derozan or Budinger because Derozan i see potential in even tho i know he's still raw & undeveloped... & Budinger i think can grow into a nice role player on this roster... all this i outlined to u many times already.

if u wanna compare your first choices to mine next year, i'd be fine with that... i don't go around pretending to be some draft expert & put down other people's knowledge on the topic on a regular basis like u do dude, so really there's no loss of pride for me to admit i was wrong on any particular prospect like there is for you obviously... i just offer some opinions & discuss them, nothing more.
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