Posted by martin:

Posted by Vmart:

Posted by martin:

Posted by Vmart:

Wilson is starting to look over his shoulder. If Gallo lost his job you can damn be sure Wilson is next. Management is creating some false playoff push in their minds because they think they are so close to making the playoffs. What they have forgotten is they are close to the playoffs because Chandler and Gallo have helped put them into that situation they are part of the solution to get you in the position.

Management is selling out. They have basically told the true fans to piss off we are making a play off push and that means the vets have priority it mean rebuilding is not a priority. Right now Chandler and Gallo are not a priority. They aren't part of the plan.

D'Antoni get your head out of your azz. There is no way anyone can justify playing Hughes over Gallo and Chandler at this point in the season and at this point in the two players development. These players are part of the future plan of the Knicks for a player who isn't part of the plan Larry Hughes isn't part of the plan, he hasn't done anything this season to get priority over them it is a shame and a sham.

Now that the Knicks have Lee, Nate, Chandler and Gallo this is the NYK core, you don't mess with that.

you get this from 1 game? LOL

What I don't understand is how anyone can be so nonchalant about this. Its not just one game If you are in a playoff push like they say they are why are they tinkering with the lineup. They just had a great game vs Raptors and to follow it up with putting Hughes and Wilcox in to the rotation, it cost the Knicks a win. These guys weren't ready D'Antoni had no business having them out there for so long. This is like history repeating itself it wasn't good then its not going to be good now.

I don't know about you guys but I was in it for rebuilding and development this year and this playoff push was a perk. I hope D'Antoni isn't selling out on that. He needs to realize who got them into the position in the first place.

Would you advocate that MDA not play Wilcox or Hughes at ALL? There will be some adjustment period and MDA has got to be given his chance to see and tweek. I am nonchalant about it cause it WAS 1 GAME. If this trend continues, we'll all be over Mike and his rotations, but it was 1 game.

Yes it was one game. I can see Wilcox getting all of Jefferies minutes. I don't mind that and I think most on the board here know that, Jefferies is not part of the future. What I have a problem with is Hughes getting PT this guy has been sitting for a month now and hasn't had in game play much this year why is he getting PT. They say he can play pg if he can play pg then why can't Nate play pg I don't see how this guy fits into the rotation. Jerome James for all his faults did one thing great he removed an option out of the coaches mind, sometime the coach is the teams worst enemy. D'Antoni is over thinking. Hughes isn't needed in the rotation its not a necessity. You have very capable players already at the SG spot with Chandler, Q and Nate.

You can tell Hughes isn't a going to help this team.

Posted by martin:

Posted by Vmart:

Posted by martin:

Posted by Vmart:

Posted by martin:

Posted by Vmart:

Wilson is starting to look over his shoulder. If Gallo lost his job you can damn be sure Wilson is next. Management is creating some false playoff push in their minds because they think they are so close to making the playoffs. What they have forgotten is they are close to the playoffs because Chandler and Gallo have helped put them into that situation they are part of the solution to get you in the position.

Management is selling out. They have basically told the true fans to piss off we are making a play off push and that means the vets have priority it mean rebuilding is not a priority. Right now Chandler and Gallo are not a priority. They aren't part of the plan.

D'Antoni get your head out of your azz. There is no way anyone can justify playing Hughes over Gallo and Chandler at this point in the season and at this point in the two players development. These players are part of the future plan of the Knicks for a player who isn't part of the plan Larry Hughes isn't part of the plan, he hasn't done anything this season to get priority over them it is a shame and a sham.

Now that the Knicks have Lee, Nate, Chandler and Gallo this is the NYK core, you don't mess with that.

you get this from 1 game? LOL

What I don't understand is how anyone can be so nonchalant about this. Its not just one game If you are in a playoff push like they say they are why are they tinkering with the lineup. They just had a great game vs Raptors and to follow it up with putting Hughes and Wilcox in to the rotation, it cost the Knicks a win. These guys weren't ready D'Antoni had no business having them out there for so long. This is like history repeating itself it wasn't good then its not going to be good now.

I don't know about you guys but I was in it for rebuilding and development this year and this playoff push was a perk. I hope D'Antoni isn't selling out on that. He needs to realize who got them into the position in the first place.

Would you advocate that MDA not play Wilcox or Hughes at ALL? There will be some adjustment period and MDA has got to be given his chance to see and tweek. I am nonchalant about it cause it WAS 1 GAME. If this trend continues, we'll all be over Mike and his rotations, but it was 1 game.

Yes it was one game. I can see Wilcox getting all of Jefferies minutes. I don't mind that and I think most on the board here know that, Jefferies is not part of the future. What I have a problem with is Hughes getting PT this guy has been sitting for a month now and hasn't had in game play much this year why is he getting PT. They say he can play pg if he can play pg then why can't Nate play pg I don't see how this guy fits into the rotation. Jerome James for all his faults did one thing great he removed an option out of the coaches mind, sometime the coach is the teams worst enemy. D'Antoni is over thinking. Hughes isn't needed in the rotation its not a necessity. You have very capable players already at the SG spot with Chandler, Q and Nate.

You can tell Hughes isn't a going to help this team.

and if he doesnt, he won't play. Outside of Marbury, MDA has given his guys a chance to play. Even Malik got minutes at the beginning of the season, but after it was clear he didn't have a place in the rotation, he sat.

The coaches do have to balance their players' playing time and at least give them a chance to fail, and that is what I suspect MDA is doing with Wilcox and Hughes. How else is he going to see what he has got?

It's kind of a no-win for a coach and player who has not seen playing time and is on a new team. Can't get his rust off if he doesn't play and he will be rusty if he doesn't play.... so what do you do? Give him a short leash of a few games and see what happens.

Did MDA play him longer than he should have last game? Perhaps.

Martin, they are talking about a playoff push. There is no time to integrate a player who hasn't played much with the other team and gets traded to your team. He has to get his legs under him in practice, put it this way you can't have preseason in a playoff push. Essentially that is what they are doing by playing Hughes. He doesn't understand the offense, learn it in practice.

Posted by martin:

Posted by Vmart:

Posted by martin:

Posted by Vmart:

Posted by martin:

Posted by Vmart:

Posted by martin:

Posted by Vmart:

Wilson is starting to look over his shoulder. If Gallo lost his job you can damn be sure Wilson is next. Management is creating some false playoff push in their minds because they think they are so close to making the playoffs. What they have forgotten is they are close to the playoffs because Chandler and Gallo have helped put them into that situation they are part of the solution to get you in the position.

Management is selling out. They have basically told the true fans to piss off we are making a play off push and that means the vets have priority it mean rebuilding is not a priority. Right now Chandler and Gallo are not a priority. They aren't part of the plan.

D'Antoni get your head out of your azz. There is no way anyone can justify playing Hughes over Gallo and Chandler at this point in the season and at this point in the two players development. These players are part of the future plan of the Knicks for a player who isn't part of the plan Larry Hughes isn't part of the plan, he hasn't done anything this season to get priority over them it is a shame and a sham.

Now that the Knicks have Lee, Nate, Chandler and Gallo this is the NYK core, you don't mess with that.

you get this from 1 game? LOL

What I don't understand is how anyone can be so nonchalant about this. Its not just one game If you are in a playoff push like they say they are why are they tinkering with the lineup. They just had a great game vs Raptors and to follow it up with putting Hughes and Wilcox in to the rotation, it cost the Knicks a win. These guys weren't ready D'Antoni had no business having them out there for so long. This is like history repeating itself it wasn't good then its not going to be good now.

I don't know about you guys but I was in it for rebuilding and development this year and this playoff push was a perk. I hope D'Antoni isn't selling out on that. He needs to realize who got them into the position in the first place.

Would you advocate that MDA not play Wilcox or Hughes at ALL? There will be some adjustment period and MDA has got to be given his chance to see and tweek. I am nonchalant about it cause it WAS 1 GAME. If this trend continues, we'll all be over Mike and his rotations, but it was 1 game.

Yes it was one game. I can see Wilcox getting all of Jefferies minutes. I don't mind that and I think most on the board here know that, Jefferies is not part of the future. What I have a problem with is Hughes getting PT this guy has been sitting for a month now and hasn't had in game play much this year why is he getting PT. They say he can play pg if he can play pg then why can't Nate play pg I don't see how this guy fits into the rotation. Jerome James for all his faults did one thing great he removed an option out of the coaches mind, sometime the coach is the teams worst enemy. D'Antoni is over thinking. Hughes isn't needed in the rotation its not a necessity. You have very capable players already at the SG spot with Chandler, Q and Nate.

You can tell Hughes isn't a going to help this team.

and if he doesnt, he won't play. Outside of Marbury, MDA has given his guys a chance to play. Even Malik got minutes at the beginning of the season, but after it was clear he didn't have a place in the rotation, he sat.

The coaches do have to balance their players' playing time and at least give them a chance to fail, and that is what I suspect MDA is doing with Wilcox and Hughes. How else is he going to see what he has got?

It's kind of a no-win for a coach and player who has not seen playing time and is on a new team. Can't get his rust off if he doesn't play and he will be rusty if he doesn't play.... so what do you do? Give him a short leash of a few games and see what happens.

Did MDA play him longer than he should have last game? Perhaps.

Martin, they are talking about a playoff push. There is no time to integrate a player who hasn't played much with the other team and gets traded to your team. He has to get his legs under him in practice, put it this way you can't have preseason in a playoff push. Essentially that is what they are doing by playing Hughes. He doesn't understand the offense, learn it in practice.

Realistically, there are no more practices left and you can't get in game shape in practice.

Then realistically Chandler, Gallo, Q and Nate are the more qualified at this time than Hughes. Essentially D'Antoni is jeopardizing the Knicks situation by playing an unqualified player in the rotation during a playoff push. When its a playoff push it isn't just one game, because every game matters especially if you are on the out looking in.

Posted by TMS:

the UK Forums... where one game samples leads to season long predictions of doom happens.

Posted by King1:

I think Wilson is very inconsistent and he shows no energy or enthusiasm when he plays. I think he is a bench player on a big time team.

Posted by islesfan:

Posted by TMS:

Posted by islesfan:

Posted by TMS:

the UK Forums... where one game samples leads to season long predictions of doom happens.

This thread was created after Chandlers 32 pt game.

So I guess the UK Forums is also... where one game samples leads to a decade long prediction of giddyness happens.

It works both ways.

i know it does & i've always said to temper any excitement or disappointment over 1 game swings, have i not?

That was a general comment and not really addressed to you. Although it would be nice if you pointed out when people needed to temper their excitement as often as you do their disappointment.

Posted by Cosmic:

Posted by Vmart:

Martin, they are talking about a playoff push. There is no time to integrate a player who hasn't played much with the other team and gets traded to your team. He has to get his legs under him in practice, put it this way you can't have preseason in a playoff push. Essentially that is what they are doing by playing Hughes. He doesn't understand the offense, learn it in practice.

We are in such a bad position given that second 6 game losing streak that if we are to make a playoff push it will come with the help of Wilcox and Hughes not without. We also don't have time to let him "get it" in practice. I think he played too many minutes to begin but he must play. Without these two we probably have zero chance at the playoffs now. With them maybe a 25% chance.

We likely already blew it with that 6 game skid. So now we're in desperate territory. If it's going to happen it's because these two step in quickly and make a difference. If not we weren't making it anyway.

It's looking more and more like 38 wins won't cut it anymore. 39 or 40 might. If Milwaukee is in 8th at 39 wins, we're going to need 40 since they own the tiebreak.

27 games left. 23 wins. We need to go 16-11 (59%) now to have any realistic shot. Probably 17-10 (63%). Tall order no matter who plays but if it's going to happen it will happen because ALL players are contributing lights out.

We need now... an unrealistic 6-0 or 7-0 run, and a hope we return to .500 play for about 20 games (go 10-10 or 11-10).

Gallo is as good if not better than Hughes at this moment in time. You have a player on the rise and player on the decline who is clueless about the system. Hughes is 41% shooter. Gallo already trumps him in that dept. Gallo makes players around him better. Hughes well irritates players beyond disbelief. He is not going to put the Knicks in the playoffs vet or not he just a crappy player that gets chance after chance.