Posted by BRIGGS:

Posted by OasisBU:

Posted by sebstar:

Posted by BRIGGS:

I tell you what-- I would give Phoenix Lee and Gallinari Malik Rose for Amare Stoudemire. I dont want to give up Chandler over Gallinari. No picks

What if Gallo turns out to be really good, tho? Its way too early to just give up on him.

I think Amare would be good enough so that the trade wouldnt be second guessed even if Gallo pans out

If we look back just a year ago Amare Stoudemire averaged 25-10-2 blocks playing ONLY 33 minutes and shot 60%--he's kind of lost and devlaued with Shaq in there. In this league you have to give to get.

I was looking at the Clippers record with Zach Randolph when he played more than 35 minutes--the Clippers are 7-5 when he doesnt 4-34

If we added Stoudemire and just got rid of Lee and Gallo--our differential would go positive and I think we would be a cinch to make the playoffs. On top of it you have. a marque guy here who is still 25 years old. I think if he came here he would average 27-10and we would be players in the playoffs if we could make one more move top shore up the team's guard position.


That would put the team at


C--Stoudemire
F--Jefferies
F Harrington
G Q Rich
G Duhon

F Thomas
G Chandler
G Nate


If we used the other expiring contract to shore up the team--we could be a player in the playoffs THIS year.

Posted by BRIGGS:


I was looking at the Clippers record with Zach Randolph when he played more than 35 minutes--the Clippers are 7-5 when he doesnt 4-34

Posted by BlueSeats:

Posted by BRIGGS:


I was looking at the Clippers record with Zach Randolph when he played more than 35 minutes--the Clippers are 7-5 when he doesnt 4-34

He probably only gets 35 mins when he's in the zone or playing unselfishly.

He's been hurt. He's been an absolute all star for them otherwise.

Posted by BRIGGS:

Posted by martin:

Posted by BlueSeats:

Posted by BRIGGS:


I was looking at the Clippers record with Zach Randolph when he played more than 35 minutes--the Clippers are 7-5 when he doesnt 4-34

He probably only gets 35 mins when he's in the zone or playing unselfishly.

and then you factor in that Zach has only played 17 games for the LAC, you wonder where the stats came from.

It shows you what a superior frontcourt player can do in terms of impact on W-L. before the Clippers traded for Zach they were terrible. Once they did--they started winning--when he was hurt--they were the worst team in the league.

If you add an Amare Stoudemire to the Knicks--he could easily have the same effect. he's better than david Lee--he has the ability to score 27-28 points at a FG% every game.

If that cost me Lee and gallo---OK.

Im a big Lee fan. If Phoenix was OK with Lee Gallinari and Rose--the trade would be done. Stoudemnire on the Knicks instantly make them a playoff force.

[Edited by - BRIGGS on 02-07-2009 1:29 PM]

Posted by astonduck1:

He's way talented

But he's never struck me as a winner. Bad attitude, questionable defense.

I'm not even sure I'd pony up Lee for him unless we could somehow land Nash.

Posted by GallOfFame:

Posted by TMS:

first we won't have anyone who will appeal to guys like Lebron or Wade if we trade Lee... now no one wants to give up Lee in a trade to land a stud like Amare.

i'm confused... are we actually trying to land better players by using our assets or is the goal to keep going w/what we have & hope 1 of them turns out to be a superstar someday by some freak miracle?

I want to trade Lee for a pick and a prospect with some kind of measurable upside. I don't want Amare at Max dollars sorry he isn't worth it.

Posted by GallOfFame:

Posted by NineMike2Whiskey:

Posted by GallOfFame:

Posted by TMS:

first we won't have anyone who will appeal to guys like Lebron or Wade if we trade Lee... now no one wants to give up Lee in a trade to land a stud like Amare.

i'm confused... are we actually trying to land better players by using our assets or is the goal to keep going w/what we have & hope 1 of them turns out to be a superstar someday by some freak miracle?

I want to trade Lee for a pick and a prospect with some kind of measurable upside. I don't want Amare at Max dollars sorry he isn't worth it.

If we do it this year it might be contentious, draft isnt very strong this yearany player we get back will be a small, doubt there are many promising bigs out there that ppl are willing to trade for Lee. This all comes down to how much Lee is gonna sign for.....i dont envy Walsh's position on the Lee situation..its gonna be tough.

Word for Word the exact same thing was stated about the draft this past summer. Many felt their were only 2 maybe 3 franchise players and all the rest were wildcards. We can't keep talking ourselves into this weak excuse every yr around trade deadline time when it comes to rationalizing trading an asset.

Posted by BRIGGS:

Get it done Walsh Lee Malik and Gallinari for Stoudemire