Posted by newyorknewyork:

Posted by GallOfFame:

Posted by newyorknewyork:

Posted by GallOfFame:

Portland could easily trade Travis Outlaw and a second rounder on draft night for a future first to a team under the cap. Which would be $3.6mil in additional cap space putting them at about a little over $9mil in cap space($49.7-$3.6mil=$46.1). If they keep their first rounder add about $1.2mil= $47.3. If the Cap drops say $2mil to $56 they you have it. They could also front load Lee's first yr salary putting it over $11mil to start. Since Bayless looks like he can play point for stretches Blake becomes expendable an expiring they could easily be unloaded.

Shamsports.com proves to be a little more accurate when it comes to factoring team salary.

We can match what ever Portland offers. The only way they can get Lee from us is if we agree to sign and trade. So after they trade away assets and let assets walk just to get enough money to be able to sign Lee. They are going to have to trade away more assets to be able to sign and trade for him as well.

On a side note Carlos Boozer is also a free agent.

You would match giving Lee a contract starting first yr at $9-....11+mil if they were to frontload? You realize not only would that be Top Market value for Lee but he'd also make about $1-2mil extra in 2010 if he got a front loaded.

Me personally I would have no problem matching Lee's contract. Even with Lee we still would have enough money to sign 1 max free agent. Then after 2011 we would have enough money to sign another max free agent, and if there is no top free agents in 2011 we could save the money for 2012.

I also wouldn't mind matching, because I could always re trade him at next yrs deadline. There is no way I let Lee walk for nothing even if it ends up costing me 1-2mil more. He is to valuable as a piece on the team or as trade bait.

Posted by GallOfFame:

Posted by newyorknewyork:

Posted by GallOfFame:

Posted by newyorknewyork:

Posted by GallOfFame:

Portland could easily trade Travis Outlaw and a second rounder on draft night for a future first to a team under the cap. Which would be $3.6mil in additional cap space putting them at about a little over $9mil in cap space($49.7-$3.6mil=$46.1). If they keep their first rounder add about $1.2mil= $47.3. If the Cap drops say $2mil to $56 they you have it. They could also front load Lee's first yr salary putting it over $11mil to start. Since Bayless looks like he can play point for stretches Blake becomes expendable an expiring they could easily be unloaded.

Shamsports.com proves to be a little more accurate when it comes to factoring team salary.

We can match what ever Portland offers. The only way they can get Lee from us is if we agree to sign and trade. So after they trade away assets and let assets walk just to get enough money to be able to sign Lee. They are going to have to trade away more assets to be able to sign and trade for him as well.

On a side note Carlos Boozer is also a free agent.

You would match giving Lee a contract starting first yr at $9-....11+mil if they were to frontload? You realize not only would that be Top Market value for Lee but he'd also make about $1-2mil extra in 2010 if he got a front loaded.

Me personally I would have no problem matching Lee's contract. Even with Lee we still would have enough money to sign 1 max free agent. Then after 2011 we would have enough money to sign another max free agent, and if there is no top free agents in 2011 we could save the money for 2012.

I also wouldn't mind matching, because I could always re trade him at next yrs deadline. There is no way I let Lee walk for nothing even if it ends up costing me 1-2mil more. He is to valuable as a piece on the team or as trade bait.

Not a good idea since he would be BYC. Because you're agreeing to give him 30-50% raise from his previous yr's salary his value in a Feb 2010 trade will be 50% of his salary. So for example if he's making $11mil in 2009-2010 his trade value Feb 2010 will be $5.5mil.

Oh and I also forgot what if Bartlestein request in Lee's new deal to get that Effriesesque 15% trade kicker?

Of course you don't let Lee Walk you trade him for assets that fit into the 2010 plan.

[Edited by - GallOfFame on 01-29-2009 2:37 PM]

Posted by sebstar:

Aldridge/Bayless and either Sergio or their pick

for

Lee/Nate/Jefferies

I dont do that salary stuff so they can throw in somebody to make it work or whatever, but that's the kind of package I'm looking for.

Posted by newyorknewyork:

Posted by GallOfFame:

Posted by newyorknewyork:

Posted by GallOfFame:

Posted by newyorknewyork:

Posted by GallOfFame:

Portland could easily trade Travis Outlaw and a second rounder on draft night for a future first to a team under the cap. Which would be $3.6mil in additional cap space putting them at about a little over $9mil in cap space($49.7-$3.6mil=$46.1). If they keep their first rounder add about $1.2mil= $47.3. If the Cap drops say $2mil to $56 they you have it. They could also front load Lee's first yr salary putting it over $11mil to start. Since Bayless looks like he can play point for stretches Blake becomes expendable an expiring they could easily be unloaded.

Shamsports.com proves to be a little more accurate when it comes to factoring team salary.

We can match what ever Portland offers. The only way they can get Lee from us is if we agree to sign and trade. So after they trade away assets and let assets walk just to get enough money to be able to sign Lee. They are going to have to trade away more assets to be able to sign and trade for him as well.

On a side note Carlos Boozer is also a free agent.

You would match giving Lee a contract starting first yr at $9-....11+mil if they were to frontload? You realize not only would that be Top Market value for Lee but he'd also make about $1-2mil extra in 2010 if he got a front loaded.

Me personally I would have no problem matching Lee's contract. Even with Lee we still would have enough money to sign 1 max free agent. Then after 2011 we would have enough money to sign another max free agent, and if there is no top free agents in 2011 we could save the money for 2012.

I also wouldn't mind matching, because I could always re trade him at next yrs deadline. There is no way I let Lee walk for nothing even if it ends up costing me 1-2mil more. He is to valuable as a piece on the team or as trade bait.

Not a good idea since he would be BYC. Because you're agreeing to give him 30-50% raise from his previous yr's salary his value in a Feb 2010 trade will be 50% of his salary. So for example if he's making $11mil in 2009-2010 his trade value Feb 2010 will be $5.5mil.

Oh and I also forgot what if Bartlestein request in Lee's new deal to get that Effriesesque 15% trade kicker?

Of course you don't let Lee Walk you trade him for assets that fit into the 2010 plan.

[Edited by - GallOfFame on 01-29-2009 2:37 PM]

Then I keep him. If we don't get him we would still have like 40-50mil to spend between 2010 & 2011. With Lee at 11mil we would have 34mil salary cap. The projected cap is what 65mil. Then in 2011 when Curry and Jefferies 18mil come off the books we would have another 18mil to play with.

Between 2010 & 2011 we are going to have 49mil to play with. If we resign Lee at 11mil we are going to have 31mil(if the projected 65 is right) to spend in free agency in 2010.

Posted by eViL:

Lee, Curry, Jeffries for Aldridge and LaFrentz