Thx Bernard,something i was about to check on.We got our selves a real s/f.Ever since LJ left the building.

Yeah okay... LOL

The turnovers read the same way. KVH averages 3.57, and Spree averages 2.00. Explain that away... LMMFAO

Not only is it too funny, it's just too damn easy.

Yeah, you're right... I lost. How dare I not see the success in our glorious 2-5 record. Our ship is starting up stronger than the Titanic with our place in the standings being where it is. Remember what happened to THAT ship?

U gotta be kidding me. He's playing better here than he did on his previous teams- after seven games... LOL yeah sounds like you have everything all figured out.

Better Stats? They are closer to even than you happen to mention (aside from the disparity in TURNOVERS that you obviously omitted.). Plus, if he's playing so damn HARD then maybe he outta try just as HARD to not cough up the ball so goddamn much.


[Edited by - HARDCOREKNICKSFAN on 11/12/2003 04:48:09]

What "facts" are you referring to? I shot down every point you guys tried to spit at me. I even mentioned the facts that some happened to intentionally leave out. I kept the facts straight.

Like I said many times before, if Dyess doesn't make a huge impact, we are back in the Lottery in '04 (and yes I will have a ticket for that!). Hopefully LayDown and Chaney will be outta here by then too.

u shot yourself down thinking the trade was a bust and u just tryin to find any excuse to prove your point.Keep the facts straight.

I guess adding to your first post was too easy... LOL

Anyway, It's still less than 10 games into the season. I know what I said sbout that trade and still stand by my statements. Nobody's point has yet to be proved this early in the season. Yes, I also know this is a KVH thread, which is why I posted his stats from the Cavs game here. Were the stats wrong? NOPE! In other words, I got the facts straight, fella.

The funny thing is that some cats just don't want to see them (the facts) printed. It's got me CTFU.

[Edited by - HARDCOREKNICKSFAN on 11/12/2003 00:12:26]

Now KVH needs Dyess to blow up, huh?

LOL I guess the whole team does. However, "stars" get consistent numbers regardless.

Is this thread gonna switch between "I told you so's" from the KVH bashers every time he has 1 or 2 bad games and "I told you so's" from the Spree bashers every time he has a good game or 2? That's ridiculous.

KVH is what he is. Expect no transformation because he's on the Knicks. He'll wind up averaging somewhere between 15 and 17 points a game, somewhere between 7 and 9 rebounds, and he'll do it with some games where he disappears and some where he dominates. That's the player he is. He's not a major upgrade over Spree in terms of what he brings this year. Probably a minor downgrade. But he's younger and bigger and therefore a better fit for the team. But anyone who expects his play vs. Spree's to have a major positive impact on the team's record vs. last year is in fantasy land.

Only way this team is significantly better than last year's is if Dyess makes a major contribution (could still happen), Motumbo makes a difference (could still happen, but not looking that likely) or the rookies/F. Will. add something we didn't have last year (not looking too promising). So, basically, we're relying on Dyess and his knee to lead us out of the lottery. Sad, but true.

Excuse me Hardcore but, Houston and Van Horn didn't play together once in preseason is showing its effects. Van Horn, who had 11 boards last night, four offensive, was used to being the No. 1 option in preseason.

"It's going to take some figuring out because this team needs me to have it going even when [Houston's] hot," Van Horn added. "Obviously, I'd like to be in the mix. I'm going to look at the tape. When he gets going like that, I need to still find a way to get the ball."
That's why I say you judging now isn't worth noting anymore.