Posted by Bippity10:
Posted by holfresh:
Posted by Allanfan20:
Nobody is argueing that. Our arguement is that he does coach defense. Maybe he coaches offense more, but he does coach defense. Maybe it's not going to be at full lockdown the whole game, but he coaches enough, in which they can get stops at big moments, and they can hold their own throughout the game.
He's a good coach, but it looks like we're just going to have to wait and see until we get the lions. Until then, and until we get a team good enough to compete in the playoffs, we're going to be argueing about this like crazy.
Well in Phoenix, players said he didn't coach defense...In games that I watched when Phoenix played, they didn't seem too concerned about defense either...In the early part of the season, the Knick didn't care about defense..I mean, I have eyes...Honestly, I haven't been watching lately, its too difficult, it hurts...I care about growth and player development...
I'm not thrilled with 7 seconds offense and limited defense...
Holfresh I think it's fair if you think defense wins titles. If you look at history the majority of the teams that win play defense. But there was an article about a week ago posted on this site(most people ignored it) that showed the true defensive numbers of many of the past champions. It was clear that although the majority of the teams that win, played defense, not all champions were great defensive teams. It just proved the idea that any system can win a title. Now don't get me wrong, I'm with you, I prefer defense. I would have preferred a defensive coach here. But I just am not under the impression that because I prefer defense it means that D'Antoni can't win. And if we find out he can't, and he can only get us so far, we can fire him and hire someone else that gets us over the hump. But right now, too early to be worried about championships.
I think another problem is that the interpretation is that D'Antoni wants guys to chuck, not play defense and that's it. I disagree. I think his system is designed to get good shots, score at a fast pace and also play defense. I think it's a false notion to say that he doesn't care about defense.
Bip I respect your assessment...I still think good shots at a fast pace is an oxymoron...It's still a low percentage shot...I haven't checked but I would bet the Knicks lead the league in attempted threes...So we are taking more low percentage shots than the rest of the league...If we are taking more threes, we must be close the the bottom in free throw attempts..We are hoping to win with volume and pace...Defense, Rebounding, and getting to the line use to win games, doesn't work in today's game??..Obviously you need the horses which we don't have, yet...
I like playing the percentages...Defense first wins more than offense first..Higher percentage shots drop more than lower percentage shots by definition...It's not too early to think about Championship because coach is drafting 6' 10" players who are more apt to shoot the three than play D...We are trying to shape the roster for the future now...Bad habits are learned early and not later...
This organization always seem to take the more difficult road...You have to have a good balance to win... I think our coach leans too heavily towards the offensive end...I hope he proves me wrong but he has been doing this for 6 years now...I think the last 5 games is an aberration in terms of numbers and is not something that has changed in his game plan...We have seen the last few years there are 5 to 6 game stretches where we thought LB and even Isiah might have turned these guys around...Remember the treads early in the season with Zeke where people started saying they don't want to get excited yet but...Remember the six game stretch under LB we finally thought the Knicks are getting it b4 Marbs got hurt...Been there, done that, bro...
[Edited by - holfresh on 01-14-2009 09:05 AM]
1/13/2009 3:07 PM