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Gallinari Practices Today And That Is A Good Thing (Please Stop Calling Him Italian Stallion)
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BigRedDog
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1/10/2009  12:23 PM
Posted by OasisBU:

I dont want to sound like a hater - but this guy has bust written all over him. I would LOVE to be wrong on this, but I just dont feel too confident he will work out here.

Why?? Because you say so?? Thanks for the unbiased opinion.
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1/10/2009  12:37 PM
Ten Reasons To Be Patient With Gallainari

10. Injuries heal

9. He has excellent technique on his jump shot

8. He is accustomed to playing in a big city (Milan) in front of vocal fans

7. He was a team leader

6. He can put the ball on the floor

5. If he blows up, New Yorkers will adore him

4. If he is better than average, New Yorkers will adore him

3. It took Dirk three years for the 75w lightbulb to ignite

2. "...but also from the low post with a turnaround jumper, cashing in off his size. He can be pretty quick displaying his mechanics, and he shows a great sense of timing to execute every move while always evaluating his match-up’s reaction. Indeed, he often makes opponents bite on his fakes, forcing many fouls in the process or just paving his way to the basket. That’s logically helped become the dual-threat that he is his with shooting and slashing abilities.

His body control... at first sight you might get the feeling that his big body might somehow escape his control. But the reality couldn’t be further, as his body perfectly follows his orders. For example, 6-10 guys (his likely size in shoes) running at full speed in transition tend to bump into opponents that step in their way to the basket, but Danilo has no trouble slashing by them, being able to easily change directions on the run. He actually delivered a spectacular coast-to-coast play that included a behind-the-back direction change he executed with his left hand between two opponents at almost full speed. If not the quickest and most reactive guy around, he is pretty fast when he starts moving, which looks obvious when he plays transition ball."

Luis Fernández - Director of International Scouting, for Draft Express


1. (Did I mention that he's 6'10?) Chicks dig the three point shot





[Edited by - misterearl on 01-10-2009 1:16 PM]
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1/10/2009  1:20 PM
Are your observations on his play based on YouTube clips or his 1 summer league game?
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1/10/2009  1:34 PM
CrushAlot - my observations are based on all available information NOT generated by NYK beat writers

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1/10/2009  2:16 PM
who you gunna believe... The Answer Man or yo' lyin' eyes?

I believe the wiseman would choose his lying suma beeotch eyes. NOBODY knows how the kid will turn out. Not Briggs, not Islesfan, not YOU, and not TMS. Actually, I know, but I'm not going to tell you.

The Knicks are doing whatever the can to get him healed so they can evaluate him.

The fans need to act as if he's not part of the team so that if he never comes back, we wont be dissapointed as much, and if he does come back, we'll be pleasantly surprised.
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1/10/2009  2:35 PM
Earl, nbadraftnet is a good site also. Here is Gallo's profile from there. Also, they rank players on a bunch of categories to get a total rating. Only three players in the top twenty, Augustin, R.Lopez, and JJ Hickson got lower rating than Gallo.

Borko Popic - 6/17/2008
Strengths: Long and crafty player who has a knack for scoring Has become a very consistent shooter and can light it up from deep He is able to make shots in a variety of ways: contested, off the dribble (both ways), stepbacks, fadeaways Put together an impressive season in one of the top European leagues and has shown that he can carry the load as the primary scorer Is very mature for his age, plays with great confidence and composure Has an awkward 2 step (he is able to alter his speed and change direction once he picks up his dribble) going to the basket, allowing him to get by people and finish around the basket Shows patience when making moves, getting his defender off balance with a variety of fakes and jabs Knows how to draw contact and sell the foul to the refs When a defender cuts off his angle to the basket, he has a very effective up & under that he utilizes even out to 15 feet Anticipates well and uses his length to disrupt the passing lanes Has developed a scorers mentality, but there are obvious glimpses where he shows a good feel for the game and ability to find open teammates

Weaknesses: A high level European player does not always equal a contributor in the NBA His body has ways to go before it will be on the NBA level Athleticism and explosiveness are just average Struggles dribbling the ball against physical defenders which hurts even more considering his blow by ability is limited His secondary moves off the dribble are subpar and he is often forced to shoot difficult and offbalance shots Tends to dribble the ball high and even looks down on it as he is attacking, hurting his court vision and decision making Has minimal elevation on his jumpshot, he is more of a set shooter and his release is very robotic and lacks fluidness His legs are stiff which makes his movements seem a bit awkward and it takes away from his quickness While he has good height, he is strictly a perimeter player as he has minimal back to the basket moves and his weak frame also makes him a non threat in the post His rebounding numbers are only decent, for a player at his position, getting major minutes, they should be higher Defensively he is a liability; he gambles too much, plays with his hands down and is undisciplined Marginal foot speed and a weak body will leave his opponents salivating in excitement to abuse the mismatch

Notes: Basketball is in his blood, as his father is a former player and old teammate of current Knicks Head Coach Mike DAnto
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1/10/2009  4:05 PM
"The Knicks are doing whatever the can to get him healed so they can evaluate him."

Really Allanfan? I never would have guessed that

"The fans need to act as if he's not part of the team so that if he never comes back, we wont be dissapointed as much, and if he does come back, we'll be pleasantly surprised."

What is up with this groupthink mentality that everyone must subscribe to some communal opinion? Fans don't need to "act" in any particular fashion. If anyone has a problem with having their expectations crushed, they can always aim low in their projection.

Gallinari is a rookie, in a new country, who will play like a rookie for the next 1-2 years. He IS a part of the team so therefore I support him, rookie imperfections and all, without flinching.

My request was for Patience



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1/10/2009  4:14 PM
Who said anything about not supporting him and not being patient?
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1/10/2009  4:27 PM
CrushALot - I dig the scouting reports on NBADraft.net but with regard to Gallinari, the Euro reporters detailed accounts (the long versions) of his games also provide some insight to his skill-set. The obvious problem is eqivocating the Euro junior leagues with US college ball.

I wonder who plays the role of Dickie V across the pond?


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1/10/2009  4:27 PM
It is interesting that one scout praises body control while another talks about wild off balance shots that he is forced into. I think the reality is that he is an unknown and was a risk as the 6th pick in a draft where risks (in relative terms of the draft) did not have to be taken. The 08 draft class was considered one of the best ever.
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1/10/2009  4:30 PM
Usually Fran Fraschilla has that role on the draft broadcasts but I don't how truly knowledgeable he is. Gallo was definitely going to go in the top ten. I am just not sure that he was the right pick for the Knicks.
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1/10/2009  4:42 PM
Posted by CrushAlot:

Earl, nbadraftnet is a good site also. Here is Gallo's profile from there. Also, they rank players on a bunch of categories to get a total rating. Only three players in the top twenty, Augustin, R.Lopez, and JJ Hickson got lower rating than Gallo.

Borko Popic - 6/17/2008
Strengths: Long and crafty player who has a knack for scoring Has become a very consistent shooter and can light it up from deep He is able to make shots in a variety of ways: contested, off the dribble (both ways), stepbacks, fadeaways Put together an impressive season in one of the top European leagues and has shown that he can carry the load as the primary scorer Is very mature for his age, plays with great confidence and composure Has an awkward 2 step (he is able to alter his speed and change direction once he picks up his dribble) going to the basket, allowing him to get by people and finish around the basket Shows patience when making moves, getting his defender off balance with a variety of fakes and jabs Knows how to draw contact and sell the foul to the refs When a defender cuts off his angle to the basket, he has a very effective up & under that he utilizes even out to 15 feet Anticipates well and uses his length to disrupt the passing lanes Has developed a scorers mentality, but there are obvious glimpses where he shows a good feel for the game and ability to find open teammates

Weaknesses: A high level European player does not always equal a contributor in the NBA His body has ways to go before it will be on the NBA level Athleticism and explosiveness are just average Struggles dribbling the ball against physical defenders which hurts even more considering his blow by ability is limited His secondary moves off the dribble are subpar and he is often forced to shoot difficult and offbalance shots Tends to dribble the ball high and even looks down on it as he is attacking, hurting his court vision and decision making Has minimal elevation on his jumpshot, he is more of a set shooter and his release is very robotic and lacks fluidness His legs are stiff which makes his movements seem a bit awkward and it takes away from his quickness While he has good height, he is strictly a perimeter player as he has minimal back to the basket moves and his weak frame also makes him a non threat in the post His rebounding numbers are only decent, for a player at his position, getting major minutes, they should be higher Defensively he is a liability; he gambles too much, plays with his hands down and is undisciplined Marginal foot speed and a weak body will leave his opponents salivating in excitement to abuse the mismatch

Notes: Basketball is in his blood, as his father is a former player and old teammate of current Knicks Head Coach Mike DAnto

NBADraft.net has also compared Curry to Shaq, Morrison to Bird and Omar Cook to Jason Kidd. They fail.
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1/10/2009  4:54 PM
GkFv2 - they ALL fail at one time or another. With a little reserach, anyone can easily point to the flaws in any evaluation system or scouting report. If you looked deep enough I'm certain you can find the professional scout who thought LeBron should have gone to college.


They all fail at one time or another. The idea is to have more hits than misses.



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1/10/2009  5:18 PM
Posted by misterearl:

GkFv2 - they ALL fail at one time or another. With a little reserach, anyone can easily point to the flaws in any evaluation system or scouting report. If you looked deep enough I'm certain you can find the professional scout who thought LeBron should have gone to college.


They all fail at one time or another. The idea is to have more hits than misses.

Most of the time it's a miss. Draft Express is a much better site.
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1/10/2009  5:22 PM
He needs to gain weight and get his dribble down. He has a nice 3 point shot. I don't see his position. I don't like him at the 4 because he is weak. I don't like him too much at the 3 either because he is slow of foot for the most athletic position in the NBA. I can see him in SG spot because he can play primarily on the perimeter.
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1/10/2009  5:35 PM
Now I'm confused

Pharzeone - if you want Gallinari to play the two, why does he need to gain weight?

C'mon, Tayshaun is a stick figure and is effective enough
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1/10/2009  5:46 PM
It's a cause for concern that someone his age has this injury. Otherwise, I don't see how we can evaluate Gallo until he actually plays some serious minutes in some real NBA games - possibly not until next season. Then we can evaluate his skills and see if his body can hold up under the rigors of an NBA season. Until then many of us will be dubious. Now the kid has got something to prove - does he have the skills, endurance and persistence to be a real player?
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1/10/2009  5:48 PM
Posted by misterearl:

Now I'm confused

Pharzeone - if you want Gallinari to play the two, why does he need to gain weight?

C'mon, Tayshaun is a stick figure and is effective enough

He needs to gain weight to play the 4 the position that he was drafted to play according to Walsh. Instead of him forcing it at the 4, they should think of him as a Peja/Hedo type and just play him at the 2.
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1/10/2009  6:08 PM
Phar - the funny thing is I totally agree with Gallo at the two.

Check it out

C Duhon - until something better comes along

G Gallo - please, anything is better than watching Richardson draw iron

F The Mayor - once more, with confidence

F Lee - 12 points/ 12 rebounds

C tbd - finally, someone to rebound and defend the paint

Sixth Man - Harrington

C yeah, another center tbd

G tbd

that's 8
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1/10/2009  6:13 PM
You're putting him in your starting 2 guard slot and you don't even know how he plays, besides the fact that he's a good shooter. For all we know, he may end up just being a glorified Kurt Thomas, on the offensive end. It's smart to look for the big men, but it's also smart to be prepared, just in case Gallo IS NOT an NBA player. If he is, then gangbustas. We got 2 wing scorers.
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