Posted by djsunyc:

what is nate robinson's trade value?

Posted by nyk4ever:

Posted by TMS:

i bet we could get at least a mid 1st round pick for him in a trade.

Maybe. I don't think thats out of the question. I'm trying to think of a team that would give up a mid-to-late 1st rounder for him and I'm not sure I can come up with too many. Maybe the Spurs?

Posted by JohnWallace44:

Posted by Cosmic:

After watching today's game I see what it is with Nate.

When Crawful and Zachass were here jacking up shots like morons - Nate looked like a good player who was poised, smart, and team oriented.

Now that those two idiots are gone, Nate sticks out as....the player he probably always was. A selfish chucker who makes terrible decisions with the ball. When the aforementioned were here you did not see it because they were so much worse. Yet, now that the trades were made, Nate really does stick out.

I will give him one benefit of the doubt and that is he's being asked to be something he is not: A backup PG. Nate's a gunner end of story. Maybe if that was his only task it wouldn't look so bad? He has matured a lot and grown a lot as a player and maybe that continues so for now he's not at the top of the "get this clown out of here" list.

Dude... have you been watching the games really?

I'll tell you what would happen if Nate passed up shots in this Denver game, the player catching the pass would be too chicken sheet to take a shot so they'd pass it right back to Nate, or they'd turn it over or make some other dumb play.

Nate's playing selfish because the team's been stripped of its two best scorers and the PG stopped running offense for some reason.

What's he supposed to do?

He's supposed to take his shots within the offense and not go 1-1 multiple times. Same can be said for Harrington. Yet these two guys get frustrated and instead of letting Duhon set up the offense they dribble the ball up themselves then just go 1-1 without involving anyone else and they more often than not either turn it over or throw up trash.

That's the problem with them. Get the rebound, give it to Duhon, and go take your place up court and wait for your turn. When that happens GOOD THINGS happen. When these idiots decide to take it up themselves and go 1-1 ignoring everyone we start getting blown out.

What's so hard to understand with that?

What's your point? Just take it yourself from the start? That's a complete failure of the system. The system is to pass it around, confuse the defense, hope someone doubles down, and then find the open man and then you get a wide open shot in rhythm.

Nate and Harrington have abandoned that....and it shows...and it sunk us tonight in the 2nd quarter.

Posted by TMS:

Posted by Cosmic:

Posted by TMS:


don't get him started on you know who again JW44.

Crawful sucks.

*runs*

don't make me come looking for you.

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Posted by TMS:

i'd shoot him up w/a full mag before he managed to get off a single round w/that thing... he'd probably knock himself over trying to shoot that thing w/the recoil alone... lol.

Posted by misterearl:

Nate is horrible?

King1 - is that the absolute best topic you can think to start a thread with?

I wish there were more informed and fact-based commentary than simply hurling an emotional insult at a player. Besides, if you studied the matchups you might conclude that Nate Robinson is not the fundamental problem with the Knicks.

The Knicks, until further notice, are playing wihtout an imposing center or an enforcer forward. That temporary (but significant) disadvantage is simply a by-product of a roster in transistion.

Nate is horrible? Wrong.

No, my brother. Nate may have his flaws, but he is NOT what is hurting the Knicks when they simply cannot protect the paint or put a body on a bruiser..

[Edited by - misterearl on 12-27-2008 5:52 PM]

Posted by martin:

Posted by Queeniepop:

Come one people...Nate consistently goes so far under screens that any shot is an open one. If you are talking about pressure D, then maybe Nate could handle that. But his emotion and fire is often detrimental to the entire team. Its not just one bad shot or turnovers...its almost like for every good, there is bad x 3. Numerous times during the game as well as many other games, he holds the ball and dribbles and jacks. He cannot set up anyone for plays and he really doesn't create easy shots for other players. I think he is starting to wear on MDA as well with poor play, decision making and turnovers at the end of games. He pretty much said that today. I wonder if he will be in at the end of games anymore. My question is why doesn't Duhon man up and take the ball out of his or Al Harrington's hands in a close game like today. I wonder if this may be the beginning of the end of the Nate-era in Knicksland...I think MDA is gonna put a pretty short leash on him. They should trade him while his value is high because they aint gonna pay him at year's end.

[Edited by - queeniepop on 12-28-2008 6:51 PM]

for a minute there i thought you were describing Jamal.