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GKFv2
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12/27/2008  9:39 PM
Posted by Hoopsmeister:

This forum is getting as bad as RealGM, when it comes to the amount of turncoat fans, that pile up during a losing streak, they might as well have yellow streaks down their backs, they certainly don't deserve to wear the blue and orange that's for sure.



Stop right there!
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BasketballJones
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12/27/2008  9:43 PM
I googled "bums" and found a lotta stuff like this:

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nysportsfan11
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12/27/2008  10:06 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:

My plan would be to keep the two salary restricted players Gallinari and Chandler + resign Nate and be open to trading ANYONE else in the right deal. I would be VERY VERY aggressive with the ending contract of Malik Rose and again take a serious look at any deal for ANY player-the 3 above that included picks or promising prospects. I want to build a new team and then have the cap space as a an additional avenue to help the team--not hoping for a home run[unless it is there]

I would love to work on Utah to get our pick back from next year taking advantage of the fact that they are bleeding cash and are already over the cap by far next year. I think it is VERY important to try to get that pick back.

I don't care if we win one more game this year--I really don't--it DOES not help us. We have to challenge and get into position to have a realistic chance at the top pick and a top 3-5 pick if 1 is not there. Marc Cuban is right--being in the middle is the WORST place to be. The dya we traded Zach and Crawford was the day we gave up on this season--so if they were willing to tank it from game 11--even TRYING we still are 5-12 since the deals.

Now we need to find out what teams might want a Duhon or a Harrington or a Lee--perhaps work on Utah with Rose's ending contract for our pick back. If we can purge out the roster even more--when Curry actually comes back--we can highlight him even more

The bottom line is you do something--you do it right all the way and then has to be the mentality. This half arse stuff doesnt get you anywhere. Instead of hoping we get Lebron James and throwing all of the eggs in the basket--we should be VERY aggressive trying to rebuild the team on our own

I truly believe I am correct here--that this should be the plan. Unless their goal is medicority--they have to accept we have to sck and TRY very hard to get that pick back from Utah.

Besides the wishing on a star that you'll be able to do anything with Utah let alone get that pick back, how is the gist of your plan any different than the one Donnie has already mapped out? The one he's stuck by since Day 1?

Getting under the cap was mandatory. The Knicks aren't putting all of their eggs in the LeBron basket - the fans and media are. The fact is, Donnie knows better than anyone else - the new CBA is going to KILL teams that are perennially over the cap. NO owner, not even Dolan is going to want to be over the cap and not be a championship contender under the new CBA. Donnie's the one being patient with Gallinari while fans drool over who he "could have" and "should have" picked.

He's not going to come out and tell people paying thousands of dollars for tickets that he'd prefer a lottery pick - if they couldn't tell when he traded the team's top two players while exiling its starting point guard, sacrificing his expiring for the sake of organizational harmony, then that's on them.

Donnie's not a "look at me" GM like Isiah was. He's not going to manage his roster like a video game, trading guys just to trade them and taking back teams' bull**** just so the fans and media will have something to talk about. Your master plan, give or take some unrealistic options, is really no different than the one Donnie walked in the door with.
GKFv2
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12/28/2008  5:25 AM
Posted by SupremeCommander:

people said I was crazy when I said the team downgraded its talent with those trades... eye on the prize, remember 2010, blah blah blah. I'll always remember this year as sacrificing the first decent team the Knicks have had since 2001 for capspace. This plan better work... if things aren't turned around by then, things'll have been so bad I won't be the only one contemplating resigning my Knicks fandom... and I actually stuck around and was active during the lowest of the lows. Imagine if this plan fails and the people that aren't "active" fans but more than casual fans...

Did you just call a 23 win team decent?
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Bippity10
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12/28/2008  9:47 AM
We won 23 games last year and yet still people came into the season thinking a magical coach was going to come in and turn it around. "If we could just get the right coach here". There seem to be very few who understand how far we need to go in order to compete.
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Bippity10
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12/28/2008  9:52 AM
Posted by nysportsfan11:
Posted by BRIGGS:

My plan would be to keep the two salary restricted players Gallinari and Chandler + resign Nate and be open to trading ANYONE else in the right deal. I would be VERY VERY aggressive with the ending contract of Malik Rose and again take a serious look at any deal for ANY player-the 3 above that included picks or promising prospects. I want to build a new team and then have the cap space as a an additional avenue to help the team--not hoping for a home run[unless it is there]

I would love to work on Utah to get our pick back from next year taking advantage of the fact that they are bleeding cash and are already over the cap by far next year. I think it is VERY important to try to get that pick back.

I don't care if we win one more game this year--I really don't--it DOES not help us. We have to challenge and get into position to have a realistic chance at the top pick and a top 3-5 pick if 1 is not there. Marc Cuban is right--being in the middle is the WORST place to be. The dya we traded Zach and Crawford was the day we gave up on this season--so if they were willing to tank it from game 11--even TRYING we still are 5-12 since the deals.

Now we need to find out what teams might want a Duhon or a Harrington or a Lee--perhaps work on Utah with Rose's ending contract for our pick back. If we can purge out the roster even more--when Curry actually comes back--we can highlight him even more

The bottom line is you do something--you do it right all the way and then has to be the mentality. This half arse stuff doesnt get you anywhere. Instead of hoping we get Lebron James and throwing all of the eggs in the basket--we should be VERY aggressive trying to rebuild the team on our own

I truly believe I am correct here--that this should be the plan. Unless their goal is medicority--they have to accept we have to sck and TRY very hard to get that pick back from Utah.

Besides the wishing on a star that you'll be able to do anything with Utah let alone get that pick back, how is the gist of your plan any different than the one Donnie has already mapped out? The one he's stuck by since Day 1?

Getting under the cap was mandatory. The Knicks aren't putting all of their eggs in the LeBron basket - the fans and media are. The fact is, Donnie knows better than anyone else - the new CBA is going to KILL teams that are perennially over the cap. NO owner, not even Dolan is going to want to be over the cap and not be a championship contender under the new CBA. Donnie's the one being patient with Gallinari while fans drool over who he "could have" and "should have" picked.

He's not going to come out and tell people paying thousands of dollars for tickets that he'd prefer a lottery pick - if they couldn't tell when he traded the team's top two players while exiling its starting point guard, sacrificing his expiring for the sake of organizational harmony, then that's on them.

Donnie's not a "look at me" GM like Isiah was. He's not going to manage his roster like a video game, trading guys just to trade them and taking back teams' bull**** just so the fans and media will have something to talk about. Your master plan, give or take some unrealistic options, is really no different than the one Donnie walked in the door with.

100% on point
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BasketballJones
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12/28/2008  4:36 PM
Posted by Bippity10:

100% on point


This is your idea of a post? three words? this should not be included in your post count.
https:// It's not so hard.
markvmc
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12/28/2008  6:45 PM
Should.
TMS
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12/28/2008  7:03 PM
Posted by BasketballJones:
Posted by Bippity10:

100% on point


This is your idea of a post? three words? this should not be included in your post count.

word.
After 7 years & 40K+ posts, banned by martin for calling Nalod a 'moron'. Awesome.
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12/28/2008  7:05 PM
Posted by TMS:
Posted by BasketballJones:
Posted by Bippity10:

100% on point


This is your idea of a post? three words? this should not be included in your post count.

word.

bip is a chucker.
TMS
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12/28/2008  7:09 PM
Posted by BlueSeats:
Posted by TMS:
Posted by BasketballJones:
Posted by Bippity10:

100% on point


This is your idea of a post? three words? this should not be included in your post count.

word.

bip is a chucker.

seriously.
After 7 years & 40K+ posts, banned by martin for calling Nalod a 'moron'. Awesome.
Bippity10
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12/28/2008  8:13 PM
Posted by BasketballJones:
Posted by Bippity10:

100% on point


This is your idea of a post? three words? this should not be included in your post count.

Sorry
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Bippity10
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12/28/2008  8:13 PM
Posted by BlueSeats:
Posted by TMS:
Posted by BasketballJones:
Posted by Bippity10:

100% on point


This is your idea of a post? three words? this should not be included in your post count.

word.

bip is a chucker.

My bad
I just hope that people will like me
Bippity10
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12/28/2008  8:14 PM
Posted by TMS:
Posted by BlueSeats:
Posted by TMS:
Posted by BasketballJones:
Posted by Bippity10:

100% on point


This is your idea of a post? three words? this should not be included in your post count.

word.

bip is a chucker.

seriously.

Woooops
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islesfan
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12/28/2008  8:21 PM
Posted by TMS:
Posted by BasketballJones:
Posted by Bippity10:

100% on point


This is your idea of a post? three words? this should not be included in your post count.

word.

Absolutely.
If it didn’t work in Phoenix with Nash and Stoutamire... it’s just not a winning formula. It’s an entertaining formula, but not a winning one. - Derek Harper talking about D'Antoni's System
islesfan
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12/28/2008  8:23 PM
Posted by Bippity10:
Posted by BlueSeats:
Posted by TMS:
Posted by BasketballJones:
Posted by Bippity10:

100% on point


This is your idea of a post? three words? this should not be included in your post count.

word.

bip is a chucker.

My bad

67 to go.
If it didn’t work in Phoenix with Nash and Stoutamire... it’s just not a winning formula. It’s an entertaining formula, but not a winning one. - Derek Harper talking about D'Antoni's System
Bippity10
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12/28/2008  8:27 PM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by Bippity10:
Posted by BlueSeats:
Posted by TMS:
Posted by BasketballJones:
Posted by Bippity10:

100% on point


This is your idea of a post? three words? this should not be included in your post count.

word.

bip is a chucker.

My bad

67 to go.

Go f yourself
I just hope that people will like me
THIS WHOLE TEAM ARE A BUNCH OF BUMS

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