That's Entertanment (Too)

Martin - at $20M per movie Tom Cruise is fine; at > $30M he sucks

Posted by misterearl:

That's Entertanment (Too)

Martin - at $20M per movie Tom Cruise is fine; at > $30M he sucks

there are expectations when you pay a player to be your horse.

I wouldn't sign Duhon on a $12M per contract but I love him at $6M.

Posted by Allanfan20:

Misterearl, I think that was my point, b/c your post was flat out outrageous.

The Knicks are paying Eddie Curry A LOT of money and they gave up A LOT to get him. He never keeps himself in shape to play in even pickup games, let alone NBA games. Curry's one job is to keep himself in shape and play basketball for 30 minutes a night, 82 times a year, maybe a few extra games [sarcasm]Oh God forbid the Knicks make the playoffs[/sarcasm]

Then Tim Thomas. He has this wonderful gift. He has a skillset and he's got these athletic capabilities that just about everyone dreams of having. To top it off, he's 6'10" and he's jacked. Now if he doesn't love basketball, FINE! Don't be an NBA player. However, if YOU are going to make that commitment, then you have to make it. If you're gonna make millions and millions, then it's your duty to justify that by at least working your hardest, as an American.

Misterearl, no offense, but that post you made is flat out outrageous. Actually, I shouldn't even say no offense, b/c your post was even a little offensive. People are struggling just to find jobs at minimum wage. Yet those two guys are making enormous salaries, and not making anywhere close to the most of it. In my mind, those two guys are flat out disgusting. Don't even get me started with Marbury.

At least TT is pretending that he cares though, on occasion.

Man, i am sry but i don't think any of us have the right to tell any1 what they "should" be doing. You don't like Curry as a player? Fine, i stopped liking him a while ago myself. You don't like TT? fair enough, there are plenty of ppl who feel the same way.

You saying "this guy must do this or that" makes you sound like a 15 year old, and i don't mean to offend u, just hear me out pls. Just because a certain way or approach is right for one person does not make it right for the next. Thats why some ppl can be superstars in sport and others can't , even tho the skills are there. and you definately have just as much right to feel the way you do, as i i have the right to feel the way i do. It really makes no difference who is struggling to find what job at whatever money. Money has nothing to do with it, we are talking about people's personalities here. Oh and its not any1's duty to justify diddley squat as an American, I don't even understand what you mean by that or where it came from. Anyways, i hope i didn't offend you i just have a problem when people feel that they have the right to tell others that they "have to" anything. To me thats a very egocentric way to look at things.

And for the record: I could care less if Tim Thomas plays for free. I don't like his game on the court though and it's not worthy of a Knick uniform. He coasts WAY too much and, once again, I have every right to demand that he not play like that.

It was our mistake for trading for him, and I didn't even want to trade for him, before it happened. However, how are you not raising your standards? He is who he is? He's on the Knicks. He's a pro ball player. He has a contract. We HAVE to demand that he gives it his all. If not, then how are you a fan? If you care for the Knicks, then you care that every player on the roster gives it everything they have got. If not to themselves, they at least owe it to the Knicks and to the city.

If you don't agree, then I don't know what to tell you. I personally expect the Knicks to be good someday though and I actually WANT that. I don't know about you.

^Someone with a sign of sanity. Thank you!

I bitch about Eddy Curry probobly more than anyone.... You might not remember but I had endless rants on him coming into training camp out of shape year after year. I think the Knicks need to do more in terms of babysitting him, getting him a personal traininer.. a live-in chef.. a strict diet plan. My point is not everyone is the same, and Earl has a point that Basketball may not be Curry's passion and you cannot blame HIM for THAT... You can be mad that he is taking advantage of the Knicks, but in all reality like i said once again.. This is who he is period so now it's the KNicks job to get the best out of him

earl, then how do you characterize his career-long propensity for underachievement and lack of effort on defense and rebounding?

Posted by Elite:

I bitch about Eddy Curry probobly more than anyone.... You might not remember but I had endless rants on him coming into training camp out of shape year after year. I think the Knicks need to do more in terms of babysitting him, getting him a personal traininer.. a live-in chef.. a strict diet plan. My point is not everyone is the same, and Earl has a point that Basketball may not be Curry's passion and you cannot blame HIM for THAT... You can be mad that he is taking advantage of the Knicks, but in all reality like i said once again.. This is who he is period so now it's the KNicks job to get the best out of him

If basketball is not his passion. Fine. Retire after your contract runs out. But for while you do have a contract, play for the Knicks like it's your duty and like it IS your passion, b/c you are on the Knicks. Don't f' with the team, the fans and the NBA by getting a contract and then not earning it.

Allanfan - you brought up the money dude.

I expect Tim Thomas to be a team player. So far, since returning, he is doing just that. He has been making valuable contributions on a solid six/seven-man rotation that plays hard. Otherwise, D'Antoni would have him seated next to Jerome James.

Bitching and moaning about his flaws are a waste of time.

Posted by Allanfan20:

Posted by Elite:

I bitch about Eddy Curry probobly more than anyone.... You might not remember but I had endless rants on him coming into training camp out of shape year after year. I think the Knicks need to do more in terms of babysitting him, getting him a personal traininer.. a live-in chef.. a strict diet plan. My point is not everyone is the same, and Earl has a point that Basketball may not be Curry's passion and you cannot blame HIM for THAT... You can be mad that he is taking advantage of the Knicks, but in all reality like i said once again.. This is who he is period so now it's the KNicks job to get the best out of him

If basketball is not his passion. Fine. Retire after your contract runs out. But for while you do have a contract, play for the Knicks like it's your duty and like it IS your passion, b/c you are on the Knicks. Don't f' with the team, the fans and the NBA by getting a contract and then not earning it.

I feel you on that, but at the same time.. If your Eddy Curry.. and Basketball is not your passion.. but you know you can make millions of dollars by half assing it.. are you saying your not gunna do that?........