Posted by TMS:

Posted by franco12:

Posted by TMS:

Posted by franco12:

there is though, something about the effect D'Antoni has on PGs. No one thought Duhon was this good.

And I doubt he would look this good anywhere else.

And while it would be great to sell high, and trading Duhon like Briggs suggests would be doing just that, I don't think we can trade Duhon and not have the team collapse. Better to keep him and make others look good so perhaps at the deadline, we could trade Curry, JJ2 or Harrington for either more cap space or perhaps a young player/draft pick.

selling 1 of our best players right now for the trash BRIGGS suggested is selling high in your eyes? if he'd suggested trading Duhon to a bad team looking for a PG for their 1st rounder, i could see the logic.

I wasn't endorsing Briggs trade specifics, just commenting on the notion of being open to trading Duhon.

i don't think there's anyone on this roster who's an untouchable either, but u gotta get back more than that if u wanna trade Duhon right now... he's playing outta his mind & u'r talking about trading him for 2 minor role players & a worthless 2nd rounder that u can buy for cash if u really want one... if ur not getting a better player than Wright or at least a decent 1st round pick, why bother?

Posted by BRIGGS:


King1 the fans here don't understand the salary cap--that is why I'm getting these responses. It would not be in question if we signed david Lee to a 6 year 45mm front loaded this summer or Duhon to a full MLE also front loaded--they would be salary cap locked combined after the frontload in 2010 at roughly 12mm$--literally teams can now frontload contracts to Lee this summer lets say 60mm with the first two years frontloaded and a cap number of 12mm alone. Duhon is a UFA--he can go wherever the money is the most--all we have with him is we can renounce his rights for 7mm or sign him like we are signing a superstar at HIS discretion--he'll have all of the leverage.

They may get to the cap room they need to get one max player--but in the process almost every good player here will be gone.

the thing that really takes the cake is the Duhon stuff. yes he's playing very well but he is an UNRESTRICTED FREE AGENT in 2010 and there will be 20 teams with cap room--some who will be OVER paying. Not everyone will get Bosh and Lerbon and if Duhon can keep up this play hell be commanding 10-12mm per year. Don't make your own judgment get in the way of professional comps by pro agents. Believe me if I was David Lee's agent I would ask for 72mm over 6 or MORE and they WILL too. If Duhon plays like this same darn thing--expect crazy money to fly at both of them.

If you don't get it--that is cool but you will get it when the time comes.

LOL you are so pompous Briggs.

Posted by King1:

Briggs you're exactly right Walsh has the propensity to wait and Duhon is going to command crazy money. You either have to get rid of him or pay him. Players arent going to take money to play with Lebron or Bosh. If that was the case why doesnt Cleveland have vets lining up at the door to play at a cheap price.

Posted by crzymdups:

Posted by King1:

Briggs you're exactly right Walsh has the propensity to wait and Duhon is going to command crazy money. You either have to get rid of him or pay him. Players arent going to take money to play with Lebron or Bosh. If that was the case why doesnt Cleveland have vets lining up at the door to play at a cheap price.

Because Cleveland is near an ugly lake in Ohio and New York is one of the best cities on the planet?

There are worse problems to have than what do we do about Duhon and Lee playing so well. We can sign them both and get one mega star.

Posted by TMS:

Posted by newyorknewyork:

You have to check the value of Duhon if he continues to put up great #s. But the time to do it would be at the deadline this yr and then the deadline next yr. Of course if a team blows us away with an offer then you gotta do it.

I love the change of attitude though. I remember in the summer, all the Duhon sucks threads and how he was a waste of money.

Then there is Marcus Williams was supposed to flourish in GS and now he needs a another change.

Can't wait for Gallo to get healthy after the Allstar break and do some damage

at that point we'll probably start seeing threads to trade Gallo for a Marcus Williams package while his value is at an alltime peak.

Posted by kam77:

I've done the math, posted the math. Go back and look. or don't, Take my word.

But we would need to lose Curry, not resign AL, and have one of the following also happen
i) lose JJ2
ii) or trade our pick this year
iii)or renounce the rights to Gallinari.

If we do those things, and if the cap is about 64mil, we can keep Nate, Duhon, Lee, and sign two max guys. Worst case scenario, we cant keep Duhon. If Steve Nash takes the veterans minimum to come here for a couple years to end his career we won't pine for Duhon.

[Edited by - kam77 on 12-07-2008 9:31 PM]