Posted by martin:

Posted by Cosmic:

I see no reason to pay a man 22M to sit on the bench in a suit and be a constant distraction hoping at some point he will "give in" and accept a few million less. He clearly won't.

Therefore we are going to pay him 22M no matter what.

So why pay him to stay around and be nothing but a distraction?

Why not pay him what you are already going to have to pay him - but to do it ELSEWHERE? Closing the book on this insanity?

Hey, his contract says it's his, so I don't blame him for wanting it especially now how the Knicks are trying to stonewall him.

The Knicks are treating an impossible situation in the worst way. Quite unprofessional for a franchise that claims to have hired men to bring respectability back.

There is no winning this. There is no point in punishing Marbury like this.

I'm thinking that since Marbury torched Isiah in the trial - which cost Dolan a lot of cash - that maybe this is Dolan's doing as much as Walsh's.

This thing is just insane and stupid no matter how you slice it. Waive the son of a bitch already so we can move on. He is NOT going to blink and he's so insane he doesn't seem to feel punished so there goes that as well.

Knicks have nothing to gain by doing this. Nothing. Dolan is a bum for not just allowing but probably applauding doing this to Marbury.

It's stupid...

what's the distraction? The only "distraction" is Berman and the rest of the media who keep bringing it up. MDA and Walsh have effectively shut Marbury up. The team is gelling. And playing like a unit.

From the team's perspective, why should they let Marbury have his way one more time?

Posted by martin:

Posted by Cosmic:

I see no reason to pay a man 22M to sit on the bench in a suit and be a constant distraction hoping at some point he will "give in" and accept a few million less. He clearly won't.

Therefore we are going to pay him 22M no matter what.

So why pay him to stay around and be nothing but a distraction?

Why not pay him what you are already going to have to pay him - but to do it ELSEWHERE? Closing the book on this insanity?

Hey, his contract says it's his, so I don't blame him for wanting it especially now how the Knicks are trying to stonewall him.

The Knicks are treating an impossible situation in the worst way. Quite unprofessional for a franchise that claims to have hired men to bring respectability back.

There is no winning this. There is no point in punishing Marbury like this.

I'm thinking that since Marbury torched Isiah in the trial - which cost Dolan a lot of cash - that maybe this is Dolan's doing as much as Walsh's.

This thing is just insane and stupid no matter how you slice it. Waive the son of a bitch already so we can move on. He is NOT going to blink and he's so insane he doesn't seem to feel punished so there goes that as well.

Knicks have nothing to gain by doing this. Nothing. Dolan is a bum for not just allowing but probably applauding doing this to Marbury.

It's stupid...

what's the distraction? The only "distraction" is Berman and the rest of the media who keep bringing it up. MDA and Walsh have effectively shut Marbury up. The team is gelling. And playing like a unit.

From the team's perspective, why should they let Marbury have his way one more time?

Posted by holfresh:

Posted by martin:

Posted by Cosmic:

I see no reason to pay a man 22M to sit on the bench in a suit and be a constant distraction hoping at some point he will "give in" and accept a few million less. He clearly won't.

Therefore we are going to pay him 22M no matter what.

So why pay him to stay around and be nothing but a distraction?

Why not pay him what you are already going to have to pay him - but to do it ELSEWHERE? Closing the book on this insanity?

Hey, his contract says it's his, so I don't blame him for wanting it especially now how the Knicks are trying to stonewall him.

The Knicks are treating an impossible situation in the worst way. Quite unprofessional for a franchise that claims to have hired men to bring respectability back.

There is no winning this. There is no point in punishing Marbury like this.

I'm thinking that since Marbury torched Isiah in the trial - which cost Dolan a lot of cash - that maybe this is Dolan's doing as much as Walsh's.

This thing is just insane and stupid no matter how you slice it. Waive the son of a bitch already so we can move on. He is NOT going to blink and he's so insane he doesn't seem to feel punished so there goes that as well.

Knicks have nothing to gain by doing this. Nothing. Dolan is a bum for not just allowing but probably applauding doing this to Marbury.

It's stupid...

what's the distraction? The only "distraction" is Berman and the rest of the media who keep bringing it up. MDA and Walsh have effectively shut Marbury up. The team is gelling. And playing like a unit.

From the team's perspective, why should they let Marbury have his way one more time?

When the Knicks starts playing better teams and the losses begin to add up...We will see what distractions from the Garden faithful we are referring to...All is well as long as the Knick keep winning...

Some how the Knick management think this is playing hardball with Marbury...The guy doesn't care, he will sit at the end of the bench all season to prove his idiotic point...we want to move on...
The Knicks as an organization has more to lose...My bet is MDA and Walsh will crack before Marbury...

Posted by Allanfan20:

Why is that your guess? Marbury has a ton more to lose. He gets his money, but as his skills erode and loses an entire seasons playing experience, when God knows he needs to play, less and less teams are going to call up. Meanwhile, the only thing the Knicks have to lose is a roster spot for Patrick Ewing Jr, who can always sign with us over the Summer, b/c we'll have the extra spot after the draft pick and Marbury and Rose walking. Marbury has the rest of his bball career to lose. The Knicks have a season without Ewing Jr, who wouldn't get playing time anyway.

The ball is in Marbury's court 100 percent. He has the right to keep the money, but he's sending out a huge message by keeping that money. He's saying that money is more important to him than basketball. He's willing to sacrifice his career for a few extra million dollars, which he already has plenty. Marbury is screwing nobody but himself. The Knicks are fine and will be fine, whether they start losing games or not, that is, in terms of the Marbury situation.

PS: The Knicks will have an above .500 at the end of the season.

Posted by BlueSeats:

Posted by holfresh:

Posted by martin:

Posted by Cosmic:

I see no reason to pay a man 22M to sit on the bench in a suit and be a constant distraction hoping at some point he will "give in" and accept a few million less. He clearly won't.

Therefore we are going to pay him 22M no matter what.

So why pay him to stay around and be nothing but a distraction?

Why not pay him what you are already going to have to pay him - but to do it ELSEWHERE? Closing the book on this insanity?

Hey, his contract says it's his, so I don't blame him for wanting it especially now how the Knicks are trying to stonewall him.

The Knicks are treating an impossible situation in the worst way. Quite unprofessional for a franchise that claims to have hired men to bring respectability back.

There is no winning this. There is no point in punishing Marbury like this.

I'm thinking that since Marbury torched Isiah in the trial - which cost Dolan a lot of cash - that maybe this is Dolan's doing as much as Walsh's.

This thing is just insane and stupid no matter how you slice it. Waive the son of a bitch already so we can move on. He is NOT going to blink and he's so insane he doesn't seem to feel punished so there goes that as well.

Knicks have nothing to gain by doing this. Nothing. Dolan is a bum for not just allowing but probably applauding doing this to Marbury.

It's stupid...

what's the distraction? The only "distraction" is Berman and the rest of the media who keep bringing it up. MDA and Walsh have effectively shut Marbury up. The team is gelling. And playing like a unit.

From the team's perspective, why should they let Marbury have his way one more time?

When the Knicks starts playing better teams and the losses begin to add up...We will see what distractions from the Garden faithful we are referring to...All is well as long as the Knick keep winning...

Some how the Knick management think this is playing hardball with Marbury...The guy doesn't care, he will sit at the end of the bench all season to prove his idiotic point...we want to move on...
The Knicks as an organization has more to lose...My bet is MDA and Walsh will crack before Marbury...

In general, I agree with you here, and if I were calling the shots Marbury woulds have been gone long ago, and he certainly would have been gone before the season began. But, let me play devil's advocate. You talk about the sentiments of the Garden faithful if the losses pile up; what will be their sentiments if Crawford and Nate get injured and we have no Marbury to sub in, or if a Gasol type deal presents itself and we no longer hold Marbury's contract.

At this point the best bet might be to hold onto him but keep him at home, away from the team and the garden -- but at least we'd retain whatever value his contract might still hold.

I can understand an owner feeling it's bad enough to pay a guy to sit at home, but it's better than paying him to play for another team, and lose all rights to him and his contract in the process.

The cost is he can be a team and fan distraction, the beneit is you get to screw him and retain rights to his arse and his contract. Not an easy call.

Posted by holfresh:

Posted by Allanfan20:

Why is that your guess? Marbury has a ton more to lose. He gets his money, but as his skills erode and loses an entire seasons playing experience, when God knows he needs to play, less and less teams are going to call up. Meanwhile, the only thing the Knicks have to lose is a roster spot for Patrick Ewing Jr, who can always sign with us over the Summer, b/c we'll have the extra spot after the draft pick and Marbury and Rose walking. Marbury has the rest of his bball career to lose. The Knicks have a season without Ewing Jr, who wouldn't get playing time anyway.

The ball is in Marbury's court 100 percent. He has the right to keep the money, but he's sending out a huge message by keeping that money. He's saying that money is more important to him than basketball. He's willing to sacrifice his career for a few extra million dollars, which he already has plenty. Marbury is screwing nobody but himself. The Knicks are fine and will be fine, whether they start losing games or not, that is, in terms of the Marbury situation.

PS: The Knicks will have an above .500 at the end of the season.

Marbury still has skills that many teams can use in the league...He will get a job...Marbury brought down a hall a fame coach at the height of his career after winning a Championship...Marbury brought down Isiah who Dolan obviously loves, not to mention Lenny Wilkins...MDA and Walsh has good reps in this league until they started the season with Marbury on the bench...Now their reps are being questioned after the Garden started booing after losing a couple of games...It will all stop if the Knicks win, if they don't watch he soap opera continue at MSG...No matter what, Marbury will be working next year...If the Knicks want to throw away another season as the fans watch "As Marbury Turns" with a new cast, it's their call..

You are right, I'm guessing...

Mark Cuban expects Stephon Marbury to attract a lot of attention if he is cut loose by the Knicks, he did stop short of saying that his own Dallas Mavericks will be one of the teams vying for the outcast point guard's services, the New York Post is reporting.

But that doesn't mean they will not. Cuban's comments were more about abiding to NBA rules than saying Marbury is not welcome in Dallas.

"Absolutely," Cuban said when asked the question of whether several teams will vie for Marbury's services. The Mavs owner then backed up, after once being fined for tampering.

"I take that back," Cuban said. "I'm not allowed to talk about players on other teams."

"I like Steph, like him a lot. He's a good guy. But teams have politics and issues. He's still a good player."