Your trying to make it sound like I'm fudging my post Phartzeone.

I tried to pull it from hhype, but it won't pull. You'll have to go read it yourself.

Where the hell is Codeunknown? I'd love to hear his take on things right now. I don't think he's posted in quite a while.

Posted by VDesai:

Posted by TMS:

my man up rage will never be satisfied until we win a championship.

There are idiots out there who liked the Mo Taylor trade that are still in hiding.

i'm not afraid to admit that i was one of those idiots... anyway i already manned up about that one... learning from past mistakes is an acquired skill... just takes some longer than others apparently.

Posted by Pharzeone:

Posted by 4949:

Posted by Pharzeone:

Posted by 4949:

Lebron James has already made it clear that he intends to leave. This was the last chance the Cavs had to surround him with talent. I truly believe he wants to come to New York. He wants the lights. I was reading an article over on hhype and the whole article was about half the league getting ready for the big free agent market coming up in 2010. Lebron is the main focus and the main city mentioned with his name was New York. All signs are pointing to it.

They just can't directly talk about it right now, because he is under contract.

Every once in a while, when a big time star wants more than what a mediocre city can offer, they go to the big city. Shaq from Orlando to L.A.! Kareem from Milwaukee to L.A!. Garnette from Minn and Allan from Seattle to Boston! Dr. J from ABA to Philadelphia! Moses Malone from Houston to Philadelphia! Lebron James from Cleveland to NYC.

[Edited by - 4949 on 11-11-2008 12:05 AM]

You mean like Kobe back in 2004, when he was suppose to leave for the Suns, Chicago and oh yeah the Clippers. He made it real clear too. Since I already mentioned Shaq (btw, told NY that he wanted to come but back out because he said it snows too much) your post was funny since everyone that you mentioned besides Shaq was moved via trade not free agency. Way to make my point. Thanks.

I didn't say any of these other guys made anything clear. I said Lebron made it clear. Besides, Kobe is still in L.A.

And I never made a point of how they moved. The point is 'they moved'!

Can't you just stick to what I was trying to say? You think it's funny and just brush it off with misinterpretations?

You are trying to fudge your post. You made the point that those players chose to leave without a trade. Also please point to the article that stated that he was going to leave the Cavs. I think Stern, the Cavs and Lebron would be interested. I know there have been speculation about his relationship with Jay Z and being a Yankee fan but I don't recall where he said hey Cleveland I'm leaving.

[Edited by - pharzeone on 11-11-2008 12:37 AM]

So do you think I'm making these up below??? I couldn't find the specific article over at hype, but this Lebron thing is everywhere. And my personal opinion is that Lebron wants to come to New York.

Make no mistake, they are going to pitch him very strongly and make an offer that's going to be hard to refuse. Knick management is making a real pitch for him and it has to be in a way that won't draw the attention of Stern.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/30/sports/baseball/30araton.html?ref=basketball

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/2008/06/28/2008-06-28_knicks_fans_dream_of_lebron_james.html

http://www.star-telegram.com/287/story/1026841.html

http://www.nj.com/knicks/index.ssf/2008/10/new_york_knicks_must_get_lebro.html

I don't recall any player that is under contract with a team telling them he will be leaving a year or two in advance. Nobody knows what LeBron will do. He'll most likely test the market though and after that it's fair game. We have D'Antoni, who is a great recruiter. Nobody knows what the future holds but if you are not able to ake advantage of the future then you definitely know what it holds - nothing.

Uh, no. If everyone said I'm leaving before their contract is up then there wouldn't be any free agents. The people who speak up are the players who have long-term contracts and are playing on a losing team going nowhere. A guy like LeBron or anyone else has no incentive to complain and get traded when he can sign for ridiculous amounts of money anywhere he wants when he is a free agent. All the 2010 free agents will remain shady on their futures until they either re-sign with their team before free agency hits or they officially file for free agency.

Pro 2010 plan:

TMS
NineMike2Whiskey
nyk4ever
newyorknewyork
Allanfan20
4949
crzymdups
BlueSeats
VDesai
GKFv2
SlimPack
EnySpree


Anti-2010 plan:

Swishfm3
Pharzeone
BRIGGS
BasketballJones


Philippino Hedger:

NYKBocker


Fruity floral drink lovers:

Marv

Caproom gives you the option

a) of having serious talks with a free agent since you can offer him a competitive offer. The other team will have to take you serious and discuss possible sign and trade options or risk losing their free agent for nothing.

b) having caproom gives you options

- trades don't have to be equal in what salary is going out and coming back
- you can be a 3rd party facilitator and receive picks and such to help make trades happen
- 2011 is one hell of a free agency yr as well

c) Donnie didn't start on his first press conference with emphasizing caproom in 2010 for nothing. It's not only for the free agency valhalla of LBJ, Dwyane and Bosch. It also provides a clear cut argument to help clean house, to avoid being bogged down by big contract while we're not going anywhere. Even without the marquee free agents given our roster and record it's a good move to give yourself a timeframe in which you'll become flexible with your salary cap again and be more in line with the rest of the league. 2010 is for giving ourselves a Mulligan with hopefully some better results. LBJ, Dwyane and Bosch make it an easier sell to the public.

I'm for being responsible with the contracts that we take on 2010 or no 2010.
Having reasonable contracts allows the franchise to make more reasonable moves rather
than just other people's trash. That does not mean throwing away the baby with the
bathwater as some people wanted to deal a good young player along with Zach for
nothing just to get rid of him. I think Walsh is doing the right thing and being
patient. Patient does not just mean dumping salary RIGHT NOW for 2010, it means
dumping salary when the right deals avail themselves.