Steph has all the talent in the world and he's just never put it together, I don't know why it would happen now.

Posted by nyk4ever:

Posted by oohah:


I'm not trying to be a snot to you, I'm just thinking out loud: Is that crazy?

Don't think anything of it oohah.

you make valid points and there's no doubting that it would be interesting to see what Marbury could do while playing for a real coach (MikeD) but we might just be teasing ourselves. Steph has all the talent in the world and he's just never put it together, I don't know why it would happen now.

When D'Antoni was praising Marbury and saying he was proud of him, I really took that to heart. And then when he back stabbed him and made it very clear that he's not a part of his system, then it confused me for a moment. But inside each of us, I think we have a real bad taste from the Marbury era and are prone to react to the negativity of it.

Posted by djsunyc:

how is a paying fan supposed to react when marbury + curry are deactivated and the rookie is behind roberson in tonight's depth chart?

Posted by Caseloads:

this team is garbage, MDA sucks, and the team is going no where fast. J Craw sucks. We need a real shooting guard here who can freaking shoot and is not always in a shooting funk. David Lee is a back up. PERIOD. Hustle player good for 15, 20 minutes max a game. He can't guard anyone. Duhon sucks as a PG. We'll get pick 5 to 9 again in the draft and miss out on Jennings or someone who can actually play.

Curry is terribly out of shape, and we need him in game shape to win anything.

Posted by 4949:

Posted by s3231:

Its sad, but after all these seasons, Marbury is still our best player.

And he could really help us out. Problem is, if we bring him back now, we essentially admit that we need him. I honestly don't see D'Antoni and Walsh doing that. It would have made a whole lot of sense though to play Steph as a 6th man from the start of the season. If we had done that, then it wouldn't be so absurd to put him in the starting lineup.

As far as the future, I don't think we can say right now that we have a player we can legitimately build around. Chandler and Gallo can both turn into very good players, but its too early to say right now. We really do need a top 5 pick this season.

[Edited by - s3231 on 11-02-2008 9:37 PM]

When the Knicks win their next game, you'll be back up again shouting good things.

Posted by s3231:

Posted by 4949:

Posted by s3231:

Its sad, but after all these seasons, Marbury is still our best player.

And he could really help us out. Problem is, if we bring him back now, we essentially admit that we need him. I honestly don't see D'Antoni and Walsh doing that. It would have made a whole lot of sense though to play Steph as a 6th man from the start of the season. If we had done that, then it wouldn't be so absurd to put him in the starting lineup.

As far as the future, I don't think we can say right now that we have a player we can legitimately build around. Chandler and Gallo can both turn into very good players, but its too early to say right now. We really do need a top 5 pick this season.

[Edited by - s3231 on 11-02-2008 9:37 PM]

When the Knicks win their next game, you'll be back up again shouting good things.

Haha, I don't think so. I actually expect us to win the next game because its at home against the Bobcats (its one of those games we should take, but you never know with this group).

Look, I'm optimistic in the long run about this team. However, I'm realistic in the short term. This team isn't any good and I doubt we win a lot of games this season. We should be better than last season (I think we'll win around 32 games) but I don't see how some people actually think we'll fight for a playoff spot this season. That doesn't mean I'm a bad fan or anything. I still watch the games and cheer for the Knicks to win. I get as upset as any other fan when something goes wrong out there on the court (instead of just saying "I told you so"). I just think we all have to be realistic. This team needs a lot of help and there is no quick fix. We have to be patient and hope that at the very least, Chandler and Gallo show some progress this season.

Posted by 4949:



I seem to be the only fighting to believe in them. I refuse to fall into the dark places anymore. There is hope and nothing can disappoint me any more. I/we have seen it all. We have a future and I am willing to give them every chance possible. Your either with me or your not.

Posted by SlimPack:

Posted by 4949:



I seem to be the only fighting to believe in them. I refuse to fall into the dark places anymore. There is hope and nothing can disappoint me any more. I/we have seen it all. We have a future and I am willing to give them every chance possible. Your either with me or your not.

I'm not sure exactly what we're arguing about. Believe in them to do what exactly? win 40 games? if that's what you want to believe in than you're wrong, this team doesn't have that potential. But if your idea of how good this team can be is less than that, than I don't necessarily disagree. I don't think the team doesn't have a future also. I just don't think they're that good right now.

[Edited by - Slimpack on 11-02-2008 10:55 PM]